980DT OC'd is about the same or just faster than a full TDP OC'd 1060, somebody can tell me wrong, but that has been my experience. SLI isn't necessarily bad, but scaling isn't generally that great in most games, the few that do support it well are few and far between, and some games flat out can't work with it. I believe the 1080 would be much faster than a single 980DT, and probably 2 assuming only ~30% average scaling, and easier and cheaper to find. I still woudln't really call it a safe bet, but better than two 980DT's
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Then doing the 18.4'' lcd 4k mod I was on about will be feasible as the alienware would just have enough horsepower to push 50-60fps at 4k.
After all the modding I might actually keep the machine due to its big screen size and pretty good sound quality.
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You would have better luck going the route of Khenglish and modding the 980m with a 980 DT core, however you will still fall a little short because of the lower vRAM speed compared to the DT iteration. I cant recall if he ever got the DT vRAM modules working as it also required a different resister along with the faster vRAM modules from the DT part. -
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Optimus can be forced on cards that don't even utlize it.
It would make more sense to go down the gtx 1080 route. If a gtx 1070 can work I don't see why not a gtx 1080 can't.
The thing is dell did one thing right, which is including a edp to lvds converter on the mobo. This way every native edp GPU can work as long as the integrated GPU is active as the signal is converted through that and the igpu is allocated to the primary display, in this case the lvds internel screen. Sure you loose some performance but for an alienware 18 to run a gtx 1080 I would 100% do it. -
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The alienware 18 for $700 is not worth it though. Those are technically two 965ms in sli which is RUBBISH and with a 4700mq and only a 80gb ssd asking for $700 forget it. Ask him to decrease the price by at least $100 or add in a bigger ssd.
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That is specific to machine. Khenglish has been modding his P150EM for years, and also probably had some help from Prema to bridge the gap on the software side of things. Though I cant say for certain, its just a guess.
He modded his laptop to accept the 1080, but also seemed to have issues using multiple monitors iirc
The one big hurdle is finding the eDP trace and then get them to work. Then also accounting for the different core height
Also the 1080 has been tried in the Ranger and it could boot but failed any 3D application test. Most 1080's wont even post and the 1 that did failed. It is assumed its an issue with EC or possibly that the MXM connection cant handle 200w power. The thread died off I think its been a while since I read it.
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I remember that now! Yeah, he never did update it, but IIRC it couldn't handle 3D because it overheated nearly instantly
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With the eurocom tornado f5 heatsink I can nearly guarantee that temps will stay in check as that is a perfect fit.
I will need to do heatpipe mods though, only worry is bursting a pipe as heating it expands the air. Unless that is crap I have heard from my technicians.
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I'm going to have to work many hours to get the money to afford all the mods I am planning, if I get my hands on two gtx 1080s I will be testing them in the clevo.
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http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/alienware-17r1-gtx-1080.805151/ here it is, the only guide of reference we have
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Breaking down a heatsink is simple enough with an oven or toaster oven. The trickier part is adding more mass to the heat exchanger which usually means you need to re-position the fan.
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@Grant B Gibson His card died, I had similar symptoms with my dead gtx 1070 (normal mxm) from eurocom.
Vbios can interfere but I can manually flash, I have the tools now.
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Of course I will remove the heatpipes from the 1080 heatsink before hand.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Msi-Vortex...R1&_nkw=msi+vortex+980&_from=R40&rt=nc&_oac=1 for less than the price of 2 980m's.... (it has dual 980m's not 980DT)
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It must be so much easier to get stuff in the US, here electronics are way more expensive too.
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Oh my bad oops. Yeah, everyone complains about prices here, but the stuff here is basically free compared to other countries
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I just looked at the prices for the eurocom tornado f5 heatsink, they cost around £150 which is roughly $200!
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I'd be careful, one feedback rating. Seems to be priced way too cheap.
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Eurocom has a tendency to overprice everything in their inventory. Be sure to thoroughly test for QC if you buy from them.
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From looking at the feedback and pictures , it looks like a scam.
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Finally found the heatsink for only $70!
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Hello, changing a little subject, but I saw that the topic is active.
I have an alienware 18 with sli 780 and i7-4930MX but it is running on windows 8.1 and i not upgraded to Windows 10 i'm afraid it will not work because of the rumors that when upgrading it has 8 bits and does not start.
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Did you guys know that a pair of GTX DT 980 (MXM) running stock , gives 20.9K in 3DMark 11.
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@Grant B Gibson you won't believe it, I just got my hands on a gtx 1080 for a eurocom tornado f5. I've bought it for only £400 which is how much a gtx 1070 is!
It has the sli connector too, just another one and I can sli the 1080s in the clevo. I don't think I will ever get a deal that good lol not even taobao gives it that cheap.Mastermind5200 likes this. -
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Yeah man thats freaking amazing, congrats to you. NGL the Clevo card requires heavy modding in the P870DM, but the MSI card should be fine (assuming SLI connection is intact) I just managed to snag a P377SM-A barebones and I'm excited to start modding it
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@Grant B Gibson I think you might be right about me being the first person to sli gtx 1080s in the clevo P870dm-g. Good on you for getting that barebones.
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@Mr. Fox got one working in his DM-G, but because Clevo ruined the MXM form factor, it took a **** ton of modding. Also got a 8700k in it lol!
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Also some word of advice, if you go for the extreme processors try and snag a qualification sample 4940mx, they overclock high and will blow the 4930mx out of the water. Due to lower temps. Otherwise DO NOT BUY THE OEM 4940MX you'd be better off with a 4930mx.
A qs 4940mx at 4.3ghz will give you about i7 6700k speeds in certain applications, in gaming definitely.Mastermind5200 likes this. -
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Believe me if this mod works I won't even be looking at buying a desktop for the next 3 years as I will literally have an equivalent in front of me lol.Mastermind5200 likes this. -
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I was planning on buying a 4300m or 4700MQ lol I don't have enough money to spend on that sadly and it really only needs a powerful GPU, its only going to be playing GTA V and Rainbow 6 Siege
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[SUCCESSFUL] Alienware 18 + MSI GTX 1070 MXM
Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by DaMafiaGamer, Jun 18, 2018.