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    GTX 1060/1070/1080 upgrade on m18x R2

    Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by yokotsumo, Oct 19, 2016.

  1. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    eDP is like for those newer 4K panels or 120Hz panels,its a 1005 digital dispaly and it would force you into UEFI mode, and you wouldn;t have HD intel graphics at all because they have a legacy/analogue boot loader thus work to load analogue panels only like LVDS which is standard on ALL M18X-R2 and is a fixed display panel, as unlike the 17 series lineups with the extra eDP option - those laptops had TWO different connectors inside underneath the keyboard on the chassis, one for eDP which screwed in very neatly and securely and the usual LVDS cable connector for the traditional non-3D/60hz versions.
     
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    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Check to see which version of the INTEL HD driver you have, and see if that one supports Pascal in the notes. (Might be any past November last year work - but when i was checking they never installed)
     
  3. usmc1488

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    Hey guys can we get a DYI for this? Ie how do the drivers have to be modded? How and what mode to place the BIOS in? Mods for heasink required?

    Is this a stable mod?

    Can you perfrom a cold boot with out having to run down a checklist of settings to set every time you turn it on/off????
     
  4. usmc1488

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    PS
    Thank you, this will extend the life of this beast for another two years atleast!
     
  5. ssj92

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    Here's a post with some info: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...tly-with-gtx-1060.804052/page-3#post-10528127

    You need the unlocked BIOS: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/release-improved-m18x-r2-maxwell-legacy-bios.800447/

    Set the video mode to SG

    Heatsink needs to be grinded

    After that all you need is some modified drivers and it'll be good to go. 1070 should be installed almost the exact same way.
     
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  6. Eurocom Support

    Eurocom Support Company Representative

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    Here are pics of our standard MXM3 82x105mm GTX 1060 and 1070 cards that fit into MXM 3.0b based laptops. In order to run GTX 10 series you either need to have Optimus based laptop or eDP LCD panel. Check our website UPGRADE section for more details.
     

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    Tulius Notebook Consultant

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    How can I buy one GTX 1070 mxm card? Is it ready to sell yet?
     
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    Eurocom Support Company Representative

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    • Yes both 1060 and 1070 are ready. Please check with our Sales Team.
     
  9. Raidriar

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    I would hold off, Eeposaurus is doing testing with the GTX 1080 and we may have a better solution on our hands.

    We need to contact ASrock and see if they would be willing to sell us the GPUs on their own.
     
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  10. devilhunter

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    That's one hell of graet news, I kept my AW18 (max) and didn't want to sell it hoping that GTX1080m is on the horizon.

    Many thanks for the good news.
     
  11. Homer S

    Homer S Notebook Evangelist

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    Looks to be a Power Plug on the Side Of the Card.
     
  13. Homer S

    Homer S Notebook Evangelist

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    At this point we are way off script. If we are reducing from 2x 980M to 1x 1080, there is at least one spare fan connector and a missing GPU. Someone more clever than I can make/find a connector if we have the pin out voltages. I'm thinking of an M18x R2 BTW...

    Homer
     
  14. TheDantee

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    a Fan Connector to 6 or 8 pin... that absolutely insane... SLI 1070 or 1080 would be preferred in an SLI capable laptop. reason users didnt go the 1060 route is because 980M SLI is much more superior.
     
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    Sorry I just read the specs more clearly and its 4 pin...

    Supplementary Power Connectors 4-pins (PWR-SRC)
     
  16. Homer S

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    Just thinking out loud here... the M18xR2 ends at 980M SLI. The 1060 and 1070 can be made to working using a single card passed through the CPU graphics engine. So no 10x0 SLI in the M18xR2. The 1060 from what I can tell is roughly the same as the 980M SLI but at half the power consumption. This is desirable if you held off going to 980M SLI. If you are already at 980M SLI, it doesn't seem cost effective to jump to a 1060 and possibly worth going to 1070. A 1080 would be a no brainer. So... I'm just trying to get us looking outside the box at cards that could fit, at least until Eurocom or similar does the shrink for us.

    Homer
     
  17. TheDantee

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    1070 works in R2? I have the AW18 (OR R3) and IK eDP connector seems to be the current issue with getting these gpus working. 1060 sadly doesn't have SLI support this year like the 960 or lower... Or else it would be a decent upgrade choice. Even if we could get 1070 SLI working that would be amazing.

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  18. Homer S

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    I'm not sure anyone has pulled the trigger, but the same info on the 1060 should apply. Take a peek here among others. There are two without external power at the end. Remember anything beyond 980M is routed via SG so panel type is a non issue. And since SG is required for the M18xR2, SLI ends with 980M, thank you NVidia.

    Homer
     
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    SG does not work via SLI correct?

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    eheh no!
    Is sli that not works in SG mode, lol
     
  21. TheDantee

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    Unfortunate... So 1070 works that's good but 980M SLI is basically an equivalent.

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    at cost of tripling wattage consumed, the new gpu always use less power to get same perf of previous gen.
     
  23. AaronSV

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    SG mode is garbage, none of the games I played ever ran well with my 980M. Soon as I got my Bios modded to accept my G-sync 980M everything works so well
    Don't know if it is just me but I like the idea of running 980M in SLI, it just feels right to have two GPU's in my R2. I only have on for now and it bugs me its brother is missing.
    Also the fact it is plug and play instead of modding heatsinks is good for me who lacks the tools to mess about that much.

    I wouldn't mind the 1060/1070 but the fact I would have to be in SG mode again turns me right off. I know SG mode only hits your performance a little but my 980M ran like garbage in that mode, hope I never have to be in that mode again.
     
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    I agree it feels natural running SLI in an SLI capable laptop

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    SLI once was fun but it feels like more and more AAA game developers are ditching the feature, games are poorly optimized and some of the new engines doesn't even support it.

    That is the primary reason why i want to upgrade from gtx 680M sli to 1070 not gtx 980m sli.
     
  26. AaronSV

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    AAA developers also used to be good back in the day...now it is sequel after sequel with bugs and patches on release, just need to look at AC to see how bad it's getting.
    Wasn't SLI meant to give people on a budget the ability to game without needing to spend £500+ for the newest card ??

    I would say use the second 980m as a Physx card but...nope another wasted opportunity :(
     
  27. TheDantee

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    For those already running 980M SLI it's kinda of a pointless upgrade

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    ^ yes it is but 1080 is not ...
     
  29. AaronSV

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    I currently only have one 980m I bought for £300 from E-bay near the end of October, It was a G-sync model though from an GT72-6qe Laptop. I could guy another 980m for under £400 if I wanted but I have no idea if I need another G-sync card or not.

    Also as far as I know there is no place to get a 1060/1070 except from the US, costing me £600 before import tax is slapped on top.
     
  30. TheDantee

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    Yes 10 series is still a tad overpriced

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    No 1080 is not but single 1080 just doesn't feel right for a machine like this :(

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    I thought only up to a 1070 will work in the R2, I'm sure I read that the 1080 was just to big or something making it not an option ?

    Honestly the 10 series in general doesn't feel right to me even the desktop version. Remembering cards like EVGA 580 3GB Hydrocopper 2, single slot and looked beautiful...I still want a pair :(
     
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    1070 or P5000M are the fastest single cards we can fit in the M18x2 as of right now.

    The problem with 1080 cards are they're too big and the die placement on some is different. Otherwise I do not see why they wouldn't work (the external power is also an issue on some cards)

    980M SLI is currently the fastest plug n play (assuming you're on A11 unlocked) set-up.

    Who knows, maybe when 1160 and 1170 come out, we will get MXM3.0b models of those as well and be able to use those.

    Although I agree, it sucks having a single GPU in my M18xR2, an SLI machine.
     
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    Was agreeing with moss that 1080 does not work... And yes I remember the 7970 release what a great pair of cards those were...

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  35. TheDantee

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    I have seen 1070 for like P170 clevos (2nd and 3rd gen i7 I believe...) so 1070 should work in the 18. As for 11 series or 20 series (whatever they call it....) eDP will still be needed so u will most likely only get Single GPU in SG Mode...

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    Being an sli user i can assure that it is a dying feature with every single passing day.

    Name one game that has good scaling on launch, it takes 5 to 6 patches and almost a year to make it acceptable and most of the latest games already dropped sli support completely i.e wolfestien 2, AC origins, evil within 2 , mass effect still have a miserable scaling till date and the list can go on and on.

    That lack of sli support from developers have pushed me never to buy an sli compatiable laptop ever.
     
  38. TheDantee

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    you can set it with Nvidia Profilier, its not amazing scaling but it will give some sort of a performance improvement..
     
  39. TheDantee

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    I have not seen it done, so If u want to try it you can, or wait till someone else tries it.
     
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    Believe me i have tried that ,it doesnt work either there is texture flickering or it wont scale at all. The last game i tested that way was AC origin and it went from 24 fps to 9 fps with sli on via nvidia profiler.

    There it goes for performance improvment only one out of 20 games work with nvidia profiler
     
  41. TheDantee

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    hmmm odd haven't tried that recently I tried Call Of Duty WW2 on Release and it workers by out 30 frams and I got about 30 frames with the same method for Black Desert Online. Are you using AFR2?
     
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    I have tried that it wont make a difference as matter of fact have tried all the settings for the latest titles of which non of them work.
     
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  43. TheDantee

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    What titles? I may have some and might be able to give some a shot

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    never mind i have already put my 680m sli cards to sell and looking for gtx 1070 upgrade. So it doesn't matter anymore
     
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    I'm guessing reach out to Woodzstack on this one. I got my 980Ms from him. I'm thinking with the right VBIOS you would be golden. Assuming it and a reasonable heat sink fit in the case that is.

    Homer
     
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    Yes i have already called upon woodzstack for his services. He is like one of the most helpful and ingratiating person i have ever had an interaction with.

    much thanks for pointing that out.
     
  47. TheDantee

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    I have been waiting over a week for the 980M @Prema Bios mod for the Dell cards if anyone has it that would be great!

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  48. TheDantee

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    Well 1070 would kill ur 680M SLI so I guess it doesn't matter

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    Doesn't 980M SLI have a dumb throttle issue in M18xR2?

    I think there is a "hibernation fix" or something for it but still kinda annoying. Unless it was fixed in a vBIOS or BIOS mod.
     
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    The only throttling issue I ever saw mentioned was when overclocking the cards. To fix the issue you can use two power bricks to negate the extra power draw, but running them stock shouldn't be an issue.
     
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