GTX 1060/1070/1080 upgrade on m18x R2

I made a dual psu mod with a power display. Throttling exists even with two power bricks. It goes away with the gfx switch method.
I have a 3720qm and two stock 980m with Dell bios and during firestrike, power draw was over 500 watts.
I was playing Arkham night the other day and it doesn't use SLI. Powe draw for single GPU was exceeding 330wats and momentarily was around 350 with a single GPU online.
I will post some pictures later if anyone is interested!

 

I'm interested as right now I have just one 980M, also does the Vbios matter at all ?
My 980m is a G-sync model and although I was told it was an MSI card nvidia inspector shows it to be Dell ..I think.
Also ran a benchmark for a laugh and the results were laughable.

 

Really.... I find that surprising! Cause the AW18 only comes with a 330W Power Brick and runs 2 980Ms

 

On the topic of power use, if I replace my current m290x's on my AW18 with 1 x 1070 (for example, the 115w unit linked to a few pages ago), am I correct in assuming I have up to 200w free to run it as the m290x's are a 100w card each?

Or is each MXM slot on the AW18 individually limited to 100w each?

I would like to upgrade to the 1070 as listed earlier, but the 115w power requirement has me worried as to whether I can power it properly through the 1 slot?

 

If its works in the R2 it should work in the 18 the 115W should not be a problem. However Im not confirming it does work, you would have to see if someone has attempted this. We do know the 1060 works in the AW18

 

I am on my mobile so this is a first glimpse.
This is my second built since with the bridge rectifier the voltage drop was significant so the whole built tripped on high load. With two 20amp diodes, it seems a lot stable.

If the measurements are accurate, then the Powe draw is great. I believe the AW18 with an extreme cup suffers from throttling.
Throttling occurs when 315watts are exceeded. My GPus are not gsync so I used premas public release and though it scored higher, power draw was almost at 600. So Dell bios give me a better everyday usage.
R2 seems to have an internal power limit switch witch goes away when switching manually GPus through bios.

 

Very interesting I'm using premas mod V1.1 (all I could find) with a pretty decent OC on the gpus and no power issues surprisingly. As for the MXM slot it does cap at 100W of power right? But for the other guys questions u could easily make it push 115W correct (some power limit adjustments I seen in maxwell vbios editor)

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You have got me keen to finish my dual psu.
I'm going to use a Schottky Diode which has a lower voltage drop then bridge rectifiers.
Have you hard wired the psu's together?

 

It might be a better idea than the bridge rectifier. The display showed me the output voltage was 18,7 volts. That was the voltage powering the laptop. That's why it tripped with high load (ex full SLI usage).
With two 20amp diodes, output voltage is 19,5 without load, and 19,3 when booting up.

I bought two Dell extension cords from ebay so no psu is soldered together. Look closely my photo and you will see the two psu jacks. My mod is modular. I can even put a third psu anytime I like, but I don't see the point. Every wire is soldered inside the box, but the mod is modular. I can disconnect it and take with me only one psu.

 

How does one do this? And could u not but the eurocom 780W PSU and Mod an Alienware adapter to it

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The Dell/Alienware PSUs have a Blue signal wire to tell the laptop it is a Dell 330w Psu. If the laptop doesn't detect this, it will work as it is a 240 and disable SLI.

The eurocom psu can be moded to work with a cable swich/adapter but the laptop won't fully utilize it. Also No dual adapter mod will work with the AW18. Don't know but it has been found in previous threads.

 

I don't notice throttling unless I get into some Overclocks on the GPUs (while using premas vbios as it adds more voltage) so I was wondering....

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19.3V is good... pretty sure that is less v-drop then the schottky diodes I currently have!

Ah, I see now! modular is definitely the way to go.
Have you got a link for the extension cords you got? I only seem to be able to find adaptors that use small gauge wiring and I don't really feel like soldering my own plugs like last time.

 

Extension cords are item number

272960433147

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/272960433147

Seller is the same one I got mine back in Feb2016.

Also got some cable fasteners to secure the modular cables inside the box.

 

Here are two photos with the system running at full, without throttling, power. Firestrike gave a solid 12K every time it run, temps never went above 70 degrees, and fans were at full blast.

544watts was the maximum draw.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/24068659?

 

Solid run.
544W is a lot of power considering your not overclocked though?!

 

It is, assuming that this gadget measures correct. I will purchase an XM cup later and see how that goes.

I will also test with premas vbios when I have the time.

 

Over 500W with a QM CPU and Stock vBIOS?!

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Yep, as I said, assuming this gizmo measures correctly. Connections are right.
My initial built had another display showing only Volt and Amperage. That one never exceed 7 amps at 18,5 volts = 130 watts!!!!
If I am idling or just browsing I never get over 150.

That measurement is with throttle free fix. Normal boot, never exceeds 340, witch I believe is the single psu capability.
And yes, no overlooking and everything with stock parameters.
Everything I throw at it, runs at a maximum settings in 1080p@60hz.

 

Hi pals,
Where can I find and buy a MXM 3.0b GTX 1070(with no power connector) to test on a M18X-R2? I know 1060 works but only 1070 or 1080 gpus could rivalize with a pair of 980M SLI. Eurocom dont say a thing about 1070 and 1080 boards only the mid 1060 gpu.

 

Someone has tested 1070 and confirmed working

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Where is the post/thread?? I'm chomping at the bit on this one... I want to ditch my 2x 980m's.

Homer

 

Located in the AW 18 general thread pretty sure near the most recent pages I'll get a link when I have a chance

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http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-alienware-18-owners-lounge-thread.721574/page-389
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-alienware-18-owners-lounge-thread.721574/page-390

starts on Page 389 and ends of 390... this is a Single 1070 tested in an AW18, I would assume it would work in the glorious R2 as well! SLI still will need a fix of some sort if ever possible. I personally think a 1080 is do-able with maybe the extra card sticking out having like the RAM Heat spreaders or something on it...

 

The Eurocom support one interests me. They will have a supported solution for the M18 R2 which will be extra nice.

Homer

 

I'm the person messing with the 1070, I'm still fighting tooth and nail with it.
Current struggle is getting Windows and the drivers to play nicely without exploding.

 

I did some Tests with Pascal cards in an Aw18.
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/15384583
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/15278884
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/15278056

They are all working fine.

 

MSI cards?

 

What's the status of 1070 in M18xR2? Anyone try this yet?

 

Not worth it

 

Works fine , but with only certain drivers by MSI. I think it's due to the bios that was on the msi gtx 1070 that was preventing me to install latest drivers , even with modified inf. The card that I was using was from a Tornado laptop.

There was one issue though, the system was not able to do benchmark. It would use the integrated graphic every time I tried to run 3dmark11 benchmark. But when playing games , it worked fine and Its really fluid. I would still try to re-installing a MSI GTX 1070 if it had a different card with a different bios.

I had to dremel the heatsink where the part of the card was sticking out.

 

You have a 1070 working in the M18x R2? It won't do 3DMark11? What about 3DMark 2013 / Firestrike? That's bizarre. Pics, video?

 

Yeah , really bizarre. It must have been a bios issue , and I had problems trying to flash different bios via external hardware.

I even tried to do firestrike and it ran on integrated ... I'll post some pictures later when I get a chance.

 

I used this Cards for testing in AW18:
GTX 1060 is an MSI Card.
GTX 1070 is an Eurocom Card.
P5000 is an Eurocom Card.

 

The 1070 is not running stable in M18xR2. The MXM slot can not handle the 125 Watts. You Need a modded Bios. In my Tests was 95 Watt ( 105 Watt peek) stable..

 

You post no pictures, no test results.....not a good way to conduct a "test"

 

Sorry, for that .I did it btw.While installing 2 gtx 980m in customer Notebook, half year ago.
It was only for me to know, if it makes sence to install the card, so i did not document it.

 

Guys check out my post of putting in a msi gtx 1070 into an alienware 18 Viking. You have to use section 18 in the nvdmi inf file. Pretty easy actually and runs smoothly. Only issue is that on battery the laptop shuts off at around 50% due to the gpu using more power than can be given. Something to do with gpu state modes.
Optimus runs as it should NO bluescreens NO crashes and NO overheating either. Its like it was made for the alienware 18.

 

I get the next M18xR2 to upgrade.
So here is the benchmark with an P5000.
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/16860853
GTX 1070 will follow.

 

Super! If there is anything you need from Eurocom let me know.

 

How much for a mobile GTX 1070 to install in a M18XR2? I already have 980M SLI installed in my rig so is it worth to change gpus for a 1070?

 

You have mod drivers everytime you need to update. If you can tolerate that go for it.

Modern games does not utilize SLI as they use to , getting a 1070 should be better.

You should get a AW 17 R1 or M17X R4 with edp panel to fully utilize the 10 series card though.

 

I'm addicted to the 18" screen! I'm heading for a 1070 or similar because I'm tired of the power supply shutting off on my 980M SLIs. The dual PSU upgrade never seemed very cost effective, if you could even find the bits.

Oh and no more modding drivers for awhile.

Homer

 

Have you considered/tried the 780w Eurocom power adapter for your 980m SLI?

 

For the low low price of $475 + $50 shipping?? Don't the Dells/Alienwares whine and not charge if they can't identify their power brick? Also, the business end is the ring with prong v. four pins.

Now that I have typed that... note I'm not saying no... has anyone find an adapter and try it on an M18xR2?

Homer

 

People have modded dual 330W PSU's together for the M18X R2, it seems to work

 

So, here's the promised benchmark with a GTX 1070 in an M18x R2.
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/16947798

 

I'm assuming that's the MSI variant?

 

At the Moment it is the Zotac / Gecube GTX 1070.

 

Just checked the core clocks and that makes more sense. Also, I noticed that you have P5000 SLI in your P570WM, can you write a thread on that?