Agree with you , I got my 6970 xfire for $150 cad , If there is 6990 xfire here , I'd go ahead for it without thinking.
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iPhantomhives Click the image to change your avatar.
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The RGB LED is in the works, custom order (not from Dell)
The M17xR2 with those specs would be easily around 1.5k$ in North America -
Phantom, am I missing something? Why you say 6990 is quad? -
There's no way the 6990m will be a bi gpu like the desktop 6990. The size of the card will be bigger and the power consumption so high and the price will double up and not drop like it is.
I don't think either that the card will be inferior to the 6970m, I don't see any reason why amd would do that. And the price is not a good indicator since prices in laptop graphic cards means just nothing. It will probably be a 6970m with shaders unlocked and maybe higher clocks.
Plus on the website for students where I ordered my M18x in France they just released the prices of the new cards. 6970m CF upgrade is still available for 329€, 6990M CF upgrade is 369€ and 580m SLI is 799€. The 6990 are more expensive... But again the prices are not realy relevent since it's special prices for student on a limited period of time.
You can check the prices here.
EDIT: I just want to add that the overall prices on that very website has gone up with these changes. I got my rig for 2275€ and it costs now 2475€. Finally I got a good price for my 6970s since if I had waited I should have payed 240€ more for the 6990s... -
Well hell will someone sell me 1 6970 so I can throw it into my M15x.
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iPhantomhives Click the image to change your avatar.
If compare to desktop's spec its 4gb itself. If crossfire so its 4gb + 4gb. quad fire.
6990m(single) and 6990m crossfire is different story , 580m is used to compare with 6970m. "6990 Crossfire" its different dimension , its probably won't down back to 2gb + 2gb same as 6970's 2gb + 2gb.
PS : Please give us the direct link or with translated version , I can't read France Thanks.
FYI : If 6990m Single vs 6970 Crossfire , 6970 Crossfire would be better.
Nice signature btw
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Lol just because the 6990M and 6990 desktop share the same number does not mean they are both dual GPU. That's just silly.
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iPhantomhives Click the image to change your avatar.
Please read I was reply to Nathan Graves.
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MEMORY 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1333MHz (2DIMMS)
VIDEO CARD 2GB GDDR5 AMD® Radeon™ HD 6990M
HARD DRIVE 320GB 7,200RPM HDD
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Its not crossfire either , and its 2gb for 6990. -
I have personally been told via dell chat reps that the 6990m comes in Xfire
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You will never be able to put a bi gpu like 6990 desktop into the mxm port of a M18x. Like I said the power consumption and the size of the card won't fit. Plus the thermal dissipation of two gpus in that small area will be a great problem! Crossfire or not doesn't matter, the port will never accept a bi-gpu card.
For the french website just hit the "Entree du site" button then click on the orange button "Les offres" Then Choose Alienware and select the model, then all upgrades will be listed with explicit names.
Thanks for the sign
EDIT: I just saw your new post. That means there's only one single gpu card and not a Crossfire... But you can see have them on CF, the french website said:
UPGRADE GRAPHIC CARD AMD RADEON DUAL HD 6990M
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iPhantomhives Click the image to change your avatar.
I never said a desktop gpu able to put in a m18x you kidding me? I have no idea what you talking about , please read my previous post before u judge. -
I'm not saying you want to put a desktop card in a laptop obviously. But you're talking about quad CF how could you achieved that without using dual gpu cards LIKE the 6990 desktop? I'm just saying the 6990m is basically a 6970m unlocked and not a dual gpu card. I read all your posts and Meaker understood the same thing as me: you were saying that the 6990 is a dual gpu card.
As English is not my first language I may speak wrong. But I don't want to sound rude, sorry for that. -
Pustul you do just fine with your english
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Having two 6990M's in Crossfire is only dual Crossfire, not quad. To achieve quad you would need either four (4) video cards with one (1) GPU on them each, or two (2) video cards with two (2) GPU on them each. Mobile graphics cards currently do not offer dual GPU on one video card.
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Thanks Shaden, I do my best to be comprehensible and the fact that iPhantomhive has no idea what I'm talking about make me feel like an idiot.
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iPhantomhives Click the image to change your avatar.
I guess you guys misunderstanding or I confused you guys what I was mentioned , I know its crossfire and I know 4 gpu is quad , what if 2 + 2 = 4? 4 does mean quad too , no? I know what you talking about , Overall I have no idea why people wants to make things so complicated.
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2GB does not mean it is a dual GPU design.
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iPhantomhives Click the image to change your avatar.
Crossfire doesn't mean dual? -
iPhantomhive you said "6990 is quad crossfire lol , 580 just dual". So how do you get quad? People are clearly telling you it is not quad in any way, but you are not telling them how you have come up with calling it quad. Dual is 2, quad is 4. How do you get quad?
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
He said 2GB does not mean dual cards.
Separate cards can just have 2GB of ram. In crossfire 6970 both cards have 2GB of ram which have to hold identical copies of the data so you still get 2GB of storage. -
iPhantomhives Click the image to change your avatar.
At post #156 , I did said desktop.
Of course I know , I'm just asking Crossfire doesn't mean dual? I'm not talking about 2GB. I own an m18x with 6970 Crossfire and It has 2GB even 2 GPU.
People are telling me when they don't even own an m18x ~.~
There you go , I'm tired to fight over..
Video included link below. The 580 beats 6990 because of 3 sli.
http://www.overclock.net/amd-ati/1042471-6990-x-2-quad-crossfire-benchmarked.html
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I fail to see a reason for arguing here. There's no quad CF or SLI in notebooks. Each 6990M is a single GPU card, same as 580M. both perform similarly.
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What are you even talking about? You keep bringing up desktop cards, when you were the one bringing them up in the first place, out of nowhere might I add. So either you don't know what your laptop is only dual crossfire and trying to change your story now, or you just randomly brought desktop video cards up. We are talking about laptop cards here, not desktop cards...
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Those numbers sure do get confusing though. if it wasn't for the M not being used all the time it's hard to tell if we are talking desktop/notebook
For example, I have a Radeon Dual GPU 5970 in my desktop that I bought over one year ago for over $900.00 just for the card and its still for sale in the 600-800 dollar price range today.
And now I have these 6970m cross fires ordered in my new lappy. On paper, comparing numbers, it looks like the laptop card is newer and faster lol. -
Laptop cards are just too expensive. The 6970M is like a 6850 desktop card (I think those were the comparisons). My 6870 I had in my desktop cost only $200 and blows my 6970M away, but the 6970M is like a $300 upgrade, around $600 itself. Crazy!
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iPhantomhives Click the image to change your avatar.
lol why u talk about desktop now. -
Umm because I am comparing prices to what the 6970M technically is. I don't bring up desktop cards for no reason.
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Okay, since I don't have any intention of reading 18 pages, most of which I see people arguing with each other, who wants to tell me the price of this thing? 6990 full price would be great, thanks.
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Same as the 6970M with minor adjustments depending on your location.
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How long does it normally take NVIDIA to drop the price of a just-released GPU (assuming there is a pattern)? I'd like to think the 580m will come down a bit once the 6990m is released, but if they were really trying to compete on price the 580m would probably be a lot cheaper already.
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$415? What is that upgrade cost from the 560m, then?
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I find it hard to believe the price being $415...
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I heard that Nvidia is pretty stable on their prices throughout the life of the product. It may come down a bit at the EOL and that's about it.
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Wow, thanks for the quick reply. When do people think we'll be able to see a head-to-head comparison of the 580m SLI and 6990m CF? I was ready to buy my first gaming notebook with GTX 485m SLI, then decided to go for an M18x with 6970m CF in order to have a Sandy Bridge CPU, and then I heard about the 580m, and now the 6990m, all within the space of about six weeks. I'm getting off this merry-go-round!
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You and me both Pearson ... I think the specs on the 6990 should be out next week, so at least we will have an idea ... but that is me basing this purely on rumours and guessing based on what I am hearing ...
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Pearson things gonna smooth now. There's not gonna be any new gpus before a few months I think and we'll see comparison in 1 or 2 weeks when the first customers or reviewers will receive their m18x.
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Good advice, that's what I'm going to do. Thanks guys.
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Nah. Not me I ordered the 6970cf. I'm sure I'll rma something on the laptop in a few months then I'll get 6990s sent as a replacement by then cause 6970 won't be in stock for sure.
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Here's a newb question for you: why is the m18x the only notebook available with a Sandy Bridge CPU and GTX 580m SLI? Malibal, Clevo, and some other notebooks can be configured with the 580m SLI, but only with 1st gen i7 CPUs. Is it better to have six cores for SLI or something like that? Also, I haven't seen any 1st gen i7s offered with 1866 RAM, just 1066 or 1333. Is there a compatibility issue there? Thanks
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If you don't need the laptop immediately that you can't go wrong with the 6970s. They aren't even half a year old. Heck the 6990m has been around as long as the 6970m since I do believe Ichime accidentally received a ES 6990m which was recorded as a 6970m with extra shaders. The big increase in GPU performance will of course be the ati 7000 series/Nvidia 28nm in Q2 2012. Either way there really isn't anything out there that can challenge 6970s except Crysis and Metro at max settings. Even then most games in the future won't challenge the m18x. If dell decides to not release the m18x R2 before 28nm gpus come out then you rather save your money now and sell the 6970s and purchase a pair of 7000s series since dell might allow them and laugh at the 6970/6990/580.
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Technically the 2920xm and the 990x are neck and neck in performance. The only difference comes when running applications that allow you to use all 6 cores. But for most people you won't be able to tell the difference from a 2720qm and 960 in gaming. The first gen i7s run at a higher clock rate whereas a sandybridge mobile downclocks saving battery and heat when not in use. Honestly a lot of us were going to purchase x7200s but on a price/performance ratio, the m18x with xfire 6970s was too good to pass up.
The biggest plus for going with the m18x is the battery life. The Clevo won't get more than 30-45 minutes on battery whereas Alienwares will get 3-4 hours. That is a huge difference but yet again I'm probably the only one that has actually used his m18x to watch a movie on non business class flight. -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
The 2920XM will likely be a bit faster on lower threaded apps.
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580m is now online.
Costs: almost 1200 euro over the single 460m.
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steviejones133 Notebook Nobel Laureate
Good spotting. Now live on UK site....6990m not there yet...
£1,030 for the GTX 580m Sli in the UK ***OFFICIAL***
I was a bit high on my first post at £1075.......but hardly miles out..... -
Good post - thats kind of my dilema - I know my M17X-R2 with 5870Xfire still is very powerfull except for Metro (where I get 15-20 frames on DX11 very high which is still OK for a Notebook) but I am also very curious of the M18X - especially the sandy bridge cpu and 6990 gpu but is it really necessary to switch now or wait half a year for IvyBridge and 7000Series AMD in an M18X-r2. Hard to say.
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steviejones133 Notebook Nobel Laureate
Personally, I think you have to look at what you want right now. Wether your happy with your current setup / gaming performance. If its a must that you have ALL games playable on highest settings, its time to change. Waiting 6 months until the next best thing comes out will only put you in the same situation in 6 months time.....simply because while your "waiting", the manufacturers are working on the next best thing that you will want to wait for again in 6 mths.
Vicious circle lol......buy now and be happy I say otherwise life will pass you by.......while you continue to wait!
My two pennies, fwiw.
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what is that deal thats running till 13/07 ?
"intergalactic domination awaits you"
so much want to buy the m18x i7 2720qm something higher then 460 sli + 3year warranty (4k)
but price is so high atm
specially if i opt for 580 sli
m17x looks better at pricing budget with same setup with only 1 gtx 580m (under 3k)
but just want to get the m18x
hoping dell decided to place 1 card on m18x or they give the 560/570sli soon
what you guys recon ?
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steviejones133 Notebook Nobel Laureate
If your in the UK and looking to spend £4k, im pretty sure my rep can get you 10% off, so £400 off list price.....PM me if you want to know more
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so i hear 6990 will have same price as current 6970 cf and will prefrom little under 580 sli ?
and the release is arround the corner ?
sound actualy good to wait to lower the price,
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steviejones133 Notebook Nobel Laureate
Yeah, 6990m (in the UK) is a small amount cheaper than 6970m at the moment. No one really knows for sure how the 6990 compares to the 580....some say it will keep up, some say it could be slightly faster....
We wont know until someone has some solid figures.....
As for 580m prices, I dont know if Nvidia is in the habit of reducing price....especially on their flagship mobile gpu....which, people are buying at its current price anyway.....
GTX 580m Sli & AMD 6990m Crossfire available in the UK now to order!
Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by steviejones133, Jul 4, 2011.