Just got my 880M twins!

Excuse me, I was off.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2190010

 

The horse isn't dead yet. Just look on the Futuremark web site, LOL. 'nuff said...

 

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Edit: it's there now. And lol.

 

3DMark is very popular for android and Iphone's nowadays. All benchmark results from smartphones should also be included in Hwboot.org. All with such phones could compete with overclocked phones.
Micro$oft wants to make money, as Win 10 is a free update for the first year.

 

What's UEFI mode and what's wrong about it?

 

This @ T|I explains much of the UEFI locked down BIOS on AW machines (2013-PGA machines)

Basically the UEFI imposes restrictions on user intervention like DSE on Win8, CSM mode inability with AW+Maxwell & the UEFI Class III might be soon on the newer machines with win 10+ era..thanks to Spycrosoft with their keylogging crapware in Win10Tech preview..

Spoiler: UEFI C-III

M$'s ultimate level of BS - Link
Everything converges to the mafia style of locking down by MS, & OEMs.
I guess the start of this UEFI must have been sparked by that CrApple's EFI. I'd be better off with a hackintosh than their high price low performance machines, which are also locked down...

 

Well it's more the protections placed on UEFI, UEFI itself does not need to be locked down.

 

Yeah, UEFI itself has potential to be amazing and awesome. Most of the hardcore enthusiast desktop mainboards run a nice UEFI BIOS. It's totally how they use it for evil instead of good that makes it undesirable in laptops. Kind of like assault weapons... completely harmless when not misused by idiots. It's not the product, but what evil idiots do with it that gives us a jaded view. Convicted felons are not permitted to own firearms. Likewise, it should be illegal for laptop OEMs use UEFI lock-downs as a tool in their acts of terrorism against enthusiasts.

 

Ok wth did I just see lol?

As usual you hit the nail on the head... This is nothing short of terrorism against laptop enthusiasts!

 

I understand Mr Fox, I am glad that the 980m SLi is working on the AW18 and more so for the fact that people are working on it to improve the performance When it's all done, I may give a try at swapping my GPUs although I am terrified at the idea of opening my 18 up My 880ms will do just fine for a couple of years but when the time comes for me to swap GPUs, I'll probably hire someone to do it for me or do it myself if I find a newbie guide I more excited on the performance that the 1000 series will offer once it launches. I will probably swap my 880ms to the 1000 series if it's not too difficult as I know for a fact it will use the MXM 3 slot making it compatible with the AW18.

 

Actually I was referring to the graphics score of only one gtx 880m, no SLi. I think the score is high enough given I overclocked it to its limits. It kept on crashing several times before I finally found a stable overclock which then yielded the aforementioned scores. I will probably never overclock my GPU anymore especially if I am running them in SLi just to "chase" benchmarks numbers as the temps were a bit high for only one working GPU. I don't want the lifespan of my GPU to be reduced if it already delivers a beast performance when I play games. I will probably try Catzilla and 3dmark 11 given the advice of you and Ethrem

 

When I try to overclock them, I do run into some serious throttling issues so I just overclock them by a small amount(sometimes 5-10MHz more). The highest graphics score I got was 12500 with the aforementioned 5-10MHz overclock. The results I posted above were for only one 880m as I was able to overclock it by a fairly substantial amount(the highest I was able to was +100MHz). I will probably try 3dmark 11 and Catzilla.

 

Are you saying that you have a graphics score in 3DMark Fire Strike at 8679 with a single gtx880m? Are you dreaming ??? This are 3Dmark Fire strike results from Johnksss with an extreme processor and extreme Overclock 1223/1650 on a single gtx880m = graphics score 8045 and total Fire strike score of P7225 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1655416
Here is Johnksss with a 3DMark Fire Strike total score of p7298 and graphics score of 8192 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2254004 This score is from a hefty overclocked Extreme processor and a single gtx780m overclocked to 1273/1501. What nonsense are you talking about??? Run all tests again and post them in the thread...

 

You know with every driver released from nVidia, the performance of the gtx 880m improves considerably so I guess that justifies my score and as I previously mentioned, I overclocked my 880m 1093Mhz boost clock speed and memory clock offset to 1450MHz. My CPU may not be an extreme overclockable edition, it still ran great and got a physics score of 10089. I have an i7 4710MQ and it was overclocked to 3.7Ghz on each cores.

 

I will run 3dmark firestrike again and report on the performance

 

Can you include a link to your results for validation? The link below is a side-by-side view of the highest recorded 880M Fire Strike scores with single GPU and SLI.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/1655416/fs/2402025

 

0.4 GHz (+4 bin)on all four cores on a i7-4710mq must be record this as well

 

Ok well maybe I inflated the numbers a bit but I did get on average 7100 points sometimes reaching 7500 with a little overclock. It's really good considering that on notebook check it says that the average is 6101 pints

 

Yeah, that's good. I agree, 880M is getting better. It was terrible in the beginning.

 

That's good Because tested hardware never lie . Inflated the numbers up to 20% at graphics score is not good... This also applies to your claim about + 4 turbo bin overclock at your i7-4710mq. i7-47xxmq series manages only +2 bin oc potential = Max 3.5 ghz Overclock at all 4 cores.

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/246907-how-mobile-i7-cpus-work-information-guide/
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-4710MQ-Notebook-Processor.115117.0.html

 

No actually I have to disagree on this one, if you search on the internet, the Dell i7 4710MQ is overclockable to 3.7 so it is +0.2GHz as with turbo boost it reaches 3.5GHz.

 

Yeah, it was terrible in the beginning because nVidia ****ed up(sorry for my language Mr Fox). But with the latest drivers, nVidia finally corrected the gtx 880m and made it a worthy successor to the gtx 780m

 

Perhaps 2D ultima must begin editing its i7-47xxmq overclocking guide? 3.7GHz on all 4 core's ? Don't think so.

 

Excuse me sir. You reach 3.5GHz on a single core, and 3.3GHz on all four cores. The max OC without bypassing the artificial limits on the chip that intel places (I.E. being @Dufus) is 3.5GHz on all four cores, or 3.6GHz on 2 cores, or 3.7GHz on 1 core.

Feel free to read my mobile i7 CPU guide for more information. It's in my signature.

This is why I keep telling people to stop listing "max turbo" for processors without specifying what the max 4-core boost is. Because people keep getting the wrong idea. I will however say that if you really are a PC Gamer representative, you should do more research before making such a claim.

 

I've already posted your mobile i7 CPU guide to him

 

Yeah, I think it's only on 1 core Sorry for my newbieness(if that is a word )

 

Thanks once again sorry for my newbieness(if it is a word) Actually I think it's 3.7GHz on 1 core then it decreases on the other cores. I think the extreme overclockable edition can maintain a specific frequency on each core

 

As I said earlier; Hardware never lie

 

Apologizing for your newbieness is one thing, but insisting other people are wrong when you're in fact the one who is wrong is kind of a bad idea. Believe me, spread across about five or six people on this forum, we could likely blow your mind with knowledge.

 

There's a reason I bit my tongue through all of this...

Dude, share your validation links. 880M was Kepler. In fact it was the same full GK104 that the 780M used with 8GB of vram and potentially using GK104 cores that were left over desktop scraps (low voltage, high leakage - hence burning hot). That means that the kind of optimization you are claiming could never happen. nVidia also doesn't optimize end of life products...

 

LOL... to be brutally honest, NVIDIA doesn't even optimize their current flagship products any more. Like Forest Gump said... " like a box of chocolates..." However it turns out, that's what you get from NVIDIA. They've become a one-and-done outfit. Don't work right? Better luck next time, suckers.

@pidge

Guess what NVIDIA's broken flagship was in August of 2014? Hint: starts with an "8"

Share the love... here.

 

Ugh! Don't remind me man!

I'm telling ya... I'm going to evict the 780 Ti in my desktop and replace it with an AMD card if they can get their act together with the 300 series. I'm so sick of nVidia. We *still* don't have DSR even though there is zero reason for mobile not to have it and nVidia is too lazy to even remove the DSR configuration options from their W10 builds so it is even more of a slap in the face. I'm really starting to hate nVidia with a passion. I'm stuck with nVidia for my laptop but I won't think twice about kicking them out of my desktop for good.

 

MichaelKnight4Christ Optimus

 

There are so many machines that don't have Optimus though.

 

Name six, then name 25 that do have it.

 

...and then, name just one that is good because of it. Optimus is cancer. So is Enduro. Manual switching (or no Intel integrated turd graphics at all) is the way to go.

 

I'm not denying that, but nVidia can't very well say "okay, DSR is a feature for mobile GPUs now! All of you can't use it except these five notebooks, three of which are from Clevo. Never heard of Clevo? Too bad."

I'm not saying it's a good thing, mind. It's just the logic as to why they can't just release it.

Also, question, doesn't DSR fail to work with SLI? Or was that only MFAA?

 

The problem I have with that cop out excuse is they are making decisions for EVERYONE based on the lowest common denominator in the industry. If someone is misinformed enough to buy a laptop with Optimus, then they deserve to do without features that everyone else should be enjoying. I'm so sick of the tail wagging the dog. It always sucks when the bar is set based on the capacity of bottom feeders. That seems to be status quo now, with crippled BGA crap being the norm rather than the exception... same core mentality at play. Lackluster is how everybody seems to want to roll now.

Oh, I think they can say that. No reason they cannot other than choosing the path of least resistance. They make excuses for other things. The only difference here is this path requires no action on their part, no expenditure of time, resources or effort. By lying and saying it is not supported (rather than a "we are choosing to not support it because we don't care" truthful response) they need to provide no explanation that the reason it doesn't work is because the buyer was ignorant of the functional limitations of the Optimus turd notebook they purchased.

 

You do make a good point. I should have said "won't" or "don't want to deal with the hassle of people who don't research calling and complaining DSR doesn't work".

 

It gets even more interesting when you ask the question, "Who are the idiots responsible for Optimus (or Enduro) technology?" They can't wiggle their way out of that one, LOL. NVIDIA and AMD cannot shift responsibility elsewhere when they are the inventors of the crippling garbage. It begs the questions, why did they do it in the first place, does it make sense today, and why are they allowing it to continue? Again, we have our "friends" in the casual gamer-boy mainstream that value form over function and convenience more than quality to thank for this. A reboot to switch from dGPU to iGPU is too much to ask, just like thin, light and long battery life are more important than performance. Using a fingernail clipper as a substitute for a hammer can't have a good outcome. You need to use the right tools to get the job done right.

 

So according to D2 Ultima's guide for my 4910MQ is:

* 1 core max clock: 3.9 GHz
* 2 cores max clock: 3.8 GHz
* 3 and 4 cores max clock: 3.7 GHz

Is that true?

Plus if I wanted to overclock I could never go higher than 4.3 GHz in all four cores... To be honest I don't think I need so much speed, even the PCSX2 runs fine at 3.7 GHz

 

I was running PCSX2 on my M17xR1 with a Penryn first gen quad core and a 260M and the performance was fine for most games. PCSX2 is amazingly well optimized.

And yeah those are your turbo bins.

 

I would much appreciate to get more knowledge in this area as this can be really helpful in the future.

Well, I wouldn't say that the 880m is old in fact it is only 1 year old compared to the 900 series being 6 months old. I deleted 3dmark firestirke following the recommendation of Mr Fox and yourself. Thus I am currently downloading 3dmark 11. Do you recommend me to buy Catzilla as it has a mixed review scores on Steam I will definitely post my results afterwards. nVidia did release amazing drivers that improved the performance of the 880m by a fair bit. Last time I ran 3dmark firestirke, I got 12459 graphics scores. It was using the GTA 5 drivers. I did not test the performance gain from the Witcher 3 driver update but I am currently downloading it right now the scores were without overclocking as I can't seem to properly overclock it maybe due to the vBIOS ruining stuff. I would probably get higher scores with a good overclock but it's not worth reducing the lifespan of my GPU.

 

Where is your 3dmark verification link? There is no way that a stock 880M is pulling 12.5k graphics.

Catzilla has a free version. I believe it's limited to 720p or something.

 

An ok Overclock does not reduce the life so much. It is rather a to high temperature that reduces the life span

 

Mr Fox, can't you modify one of nVidia's driver for us so we can enjoy DSR too. I read that the GTX 960m came with it but last I saw, it disappeared from the list of supported GPUs on the nVidia page. Strange isn't it:/

I did get 12500, it was right after I installed the new GTA 5 driver I got 59fps on 1st graphics score and 49fps on the second. I will try 3dmark 11 and Catzilla and report on the performance.

Yeah, you are right but overclocking does increase the temperature as it makes the GPU run faster than it was design to which thus increases the temperature

I will provide you with an image once I reinstall it

 

With gtx880m. Yes... Maybe replace thermal grease to a better one than the trash from Dell

 

This was modded vbios stock

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2232656

If they truly fixed the throttle 12.5 isn't out of the question if the cards are actually boosting the whole time.

 

Thanks Ethrem, I did get 12500 points which I find astonishing as benchmarks aren't really what I am after. I just want to run games at ultra settings 60+fps which my 880ms do. But once in a while, it's good to benchmark them. They were running at 993 practically the whole time( which I think is why I got those high numbers) but with the right overclock, they can achieve so much more. Unfortunately, I don't want to risk anything stupid as if something wrong happens, it'll be bad as my laptop doubles as a daily driver too

I will Papusan but I am just so afraid to open my 18 up I don't want to screw up something. Have you open your 17 already, if yes, do you know where I can find a good detailed guide Thanks

 

Where is your 3DMark verification link? We are waiting ...

If you buy such hardware, this should have been one of the first ting you attempt on. You find everything on Google. Everything you need to know.
Edit: Do you have the same problem with Google search as you have to post 3DMark verification link's?