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    Just got my 880M twins!

    Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by Arotished, Apr 22, 2014.

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    I will post my results,
    I will post my results, silly me didn't save it so I have to download 3dmark again as I had the demo and had to delete it to free up some space. Gonna download it again and posts the score so your jaw can drop :)

    Actually, I forgot to mention that I did not get a score of 12500 using only one 880m(that's downright impossible). It was with SLi enabled. My bad :) :) :) ;) ;) ;)
     
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    Run a 3DMark11 test with single gtx880m and compare with my old gtx780m http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9835196 Then you can verify the score with a single gtx880m in 3DMark verification link... Simply press the check box (ADD TO COMPARE) in the page you have your 3Dmark11 score :p We're still waiting...
     
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    PC GAMER, are you sure you're not trolling. You're consistently posting 3 or 4 posts in a row when you can use the Multi-Quote function to reply to more than one person at a time. Also, you could cut down all the discussions by actually posting your 3DMark link that proves your scores, and it's not that hard to reinstall 3DMark if you've deleted it, and why would you delete it in the first place, it's not like it takes up loads of disk space. Your actions and things you're saying/reporting just generally aren't making much sense, which makes me feel that you're not being genuine. It does feel like you're just posting for a game. Anyway, if you are being genuine, and that's just you being you I apologise, but at least go ahead & take on board the Multi-Quote function advice I gave (it's the +Quote button at the bottom of a post).
     
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    This is actually an issue too, because it limits ports to the capacity of the iGPU. Like, the internal installed panel can never be a 120Hz panel as long as it runs through the iGPU, etc. Or the number of I/O ports will be downgraded to match the iGPU etc. It is still a compromise as long as the iGPU does not have the same I/O and driving capabilities as the dGPU. It is indeed a good option for lower end machines however, but as we spent about 25 years telling certain people over on the P750ZM forums, it serves no place in enthusiast machines, as all it does is hamper the capabilities of that top-end hardware in there.
    Yup! That's correct, you got it. =D.
    That does not prevent you from posting results, as once you ran it once, even with a "pirated" copy, you would have uploaded your score to the website. We want the website link. Whether or not you have FS installed is irrelevant.
    But why do you need to do this?
     
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    I am deeply sorry if my actions are questionable but trust me, I am genuine. I deleted 3dmark because it was 1.6gb and needed to free up space for a game as it was installed on my main drive which is nearly full( 500mb full). I just did a thorough clean and freed up 7gb :) When I got my score of 12500( I know proof is coming :p) I was happy and thus did not need it anyway which is also why I got the demo. My internet sucks where I live(100kbs) which is why it's taking up some time plus I have some other commitment which is taking up my time as well. Again I am really sorry for this Robbo99999. I would never do such a thing. I do have a life that's why and I love gaming and my AW18 so much :) :) :) :) :) sorry for any misunderstanding I may have created :)

    Incoming :) :) :)

    Whenever I did a test, it went to the 3dmark firestirke wedpage and displayed and error saying I need to upgrade to the pro version in order to see the full details. I should have taken a screenshot. I am gonna run it again and post the screenshot. I am deeply sorry if my actions are weird but trust me, I am not joking around(I have a life) and I like gaming and my AW18 so much. :)
     
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    MULTI- PASS!!! QUOTE!! :) Hallelujah!
     
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    3Dmark11 Advanced Edition cost $19.95 and 3DMark Advanced Edition costs $24.95 (Certainly cheaper by Steam). Worth every penny($$$) :D. Not much money when you look at what you paid for your AW18 ;) http://www.futuremark.com/store ;)
     
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    Yeah, I am gonna buy it but not as of now. I will still post my results as promised :) :) :) :) I'll get it in a few days time probably ;)

    I love my AW18 so much man <3<3 <3 <3 <3 <3
     
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    3DMark11 gives you the performance score for free......
     
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    Also watch scores carefully. Maxwell GPUs like 980M have much better tessalation units but it's not twice as fast without tessalation so if you really like to compare GPU power then turn off the tessalation in game/benchmark and test it then.
     
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    It's fine to do that for experimentation, but disabling tessellation or any other deviation from default profiles will invalidate the benchmark results. Disabling tessellation in CCC (drivers) used to be a nice stunt for AMD GPU users to make it appear as if their GPUs ran as well as NVIDIA, but Futuremark caught on to that shenanigan and flags the result as invalid.
     
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    Yeah you're right. It'll be better to test it in-game then turning off tessalation but I think two 880Ms has enough power so don't know why poeple want to test it and overclock when it still overkills everything. They want power just for having power?
     
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    At the moment it's just high res external monitors that need more power.
     
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    2 gtx 880ms sure is overkill and thus can handle max tessalation. The Maxwell GPUs are a bit faster in this respect though :) The Witcher 3 is terribly optimized for Kepler cards :( They are all for Maxwell GPUs but even then my two gtx 880ms manage to get 45-50fps on average with hairworks off while 2 gtx 980ms get 70fps on average. Only 20 fps difference. Needless to say that this shocked me so much :) But oh well I am getting 50fps on average so I won't complaint plus I did not install the latest patch so maybe the scores will be higher.

    AMD GPUs are good but compared to NVidia, AMD just does not have the expertise that NVidia has which shows up in their performance.
     
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    Seems to be taking a while to get a solid score out of this one...
     
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    It's coming :) :) :) :)
     
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    My verification image guys, anyone keen to comment on it :)
     
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    My physics and combined scores are pretty poor though so excuse me.

    Sometimes I can get higher scores in both physics and combined tests but it varies so much :(

    I didn't buy 3dmark so I can't post any verification link sorry.

    Well, it's my best score, so here you are :) :) :) :);p

    Thanks, I tried to run 3dmark 11 but it's giving me only a 1280*720p option as I did not buy it which automatically renders the benchmark useless. I am quite proud of the graphics score I got. It's my best and the scores I get varies so much, it's mind boggling. I did not buy 3dmark so I can't post any verification link sorry :) :p

    By
    By the way, I don't even have photoshop on my computer and I don't know how to use it. Why would I lie to you. If I had something good out of it, then maybe yes :)
     
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    Can you run a Firestrike with sli disabled ? Also run a 3Dmark11 test. Both tests with sli disabled. Remember disabling virus software before you run benchmark tests.
     
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    That's what can be expected from a set of cards that are actually boosting...

    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2190036

    Don't go by anything but the graphics score, the other two are basically meaningless with that 3DMark. 11 is better for physics and combined.
     
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    The score is 1 week old and no verification link in the post.
     
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    Yeah, I'm still waiting on a verification link before I say anything. People are quite crafty with photoshop and all.
     
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    If he run the test today, why is the test from 14 May? 1 week old. I don't say he lying...
     
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    Folks... it's getting old having to merge rapid-fire multi-posts. This is not an instant message board or a text messaging system. That might be fine for chatting by text on a cell phone, but it's not a good fit in a forum. Please use the multi-quote function, and the edit button.

    For those that are new to our community and haven't learned how, it is very easy. See the image below.

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    After inserting the quotes, insert your response(s) in between the quotes or at the bottom of all quotes, as fits the situation.

    The edit button allows you to... edit... which means you can quote, then cut and paste to add another quote if you need to, or build on your thoughts rather than posting another time. Works like a charm.

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    Hey,

    I think we should ask Johnkss if he would like to do OC bios based on this new no-throttling stock. It should work even better than the old one.

    Ah and I also think that I should do new thread with this vBIOS and Tag it properly so it'll be easier to find it on the internet. What do you think?

    Regards
     
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    There's no point in making a new one when the old one works as intended and the 880M is EOL.
     
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    I don't give a damn that 880M is EOL. I and a lot of poeple still use this cards. Im not a Apple-like fan that will go to the shop and shout "Get my money because new 980M Mac came and I have to buy it otherwise I will die". Im satisfied with these cards and won't replace them for a lot of time. I think performance is still sufficient even for extreme games.

    Johnkss vBIOS didn't worked properly on my cards, don't know why as I did everything correctly and I still see poeple that have problems using old stock vBIOS or Johnkss vBIOS.
     
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    The vbios had issues on my cards too, I had to pull and flash in my Alienware to get them working again not once but twice. My point is that you aren't going to get them to work on those cards anymore - what has been released is all that will be released. There have been bugs reported about the 9xx cards on their forums and nobody gets support. There were floods of bugs and soft bricks with the original vbios for the 880M and there was never a revision. It is what it is.
     
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    Hey,

    I just wanted to help. vBIOS that I've uploaded works and do not throttles. I already helped some poeple pointing them to vBIOS that I've uploaded so I thought that this solution should be wider available not only for those that searches solution digging through 129 pages thread so they can finally find working solution on page 110. If someone fear that bios can brick his card then he can flash one card first and look if it's working and yes it should work in almost all cases because I didn't that bios, nvidia did. You can of course dislike me but why don't you want to widely show a solution for problems with 880M? It'll be better to fix it now than never.

    Regards
     
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    Has it actually been proved that the vBIOS version you're using is notably better than any version that has come before it? I've kept a rough track of this thread, and I can't remember any really compelling info showing that to be the case. I guess the proof of the pudding is in the benchmark scores, whether they be game or more reliably synthetic benchmarks like 3DMark11, Firestrike, etc. Also, proof of the pudding would be those scores when overclocked. As long as all that could be proved & compared to 780M modified vBIOS overclocks at the same clock speed then this can prove that the 880M really has been fixed. Can you provide a post that consolidates & shows all that information? (Sorry if you've done so previously & I missed it.)
     
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    Man I'm still waiting on a web link to a 3DMark 11 or Firestrike run from that other guy.

    It's been what, four days? Five?
     
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    I wasn't talking about you at all.
     
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    I wasn't talking to you at all too but to Robo99999 ;)
     
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    @Pccccc Gamer....... :p
     
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    DOH! I was hoping you'd lay out the proof in a post, but you've asked me to ask someone else. (I thought you had an 880M and the new 'better' vBIOS anyway, so thought it was gonna come from you.)
     
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    Jesus Christ I want to help and everyone wants a "proof" and dont gives a crap. Okay so now I DON'T want to help. Leave me alone people. Use stock throttling vBIOS or bugged Johnkss. Have fun.
     
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    Well, people shouldn't bother flashing a vBIOS if it's not gonna improve anything. It's just asking for your reasoning (proof) of how good the vBIOS is that you're using - if you knew your vBIOS solved the issue you'd be able to easily show it - it's not any more complicated than that is it? If you've got a vBIOS that cures the 880M issues then that's great.
     
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    This is because people have come in the past claiming perfect vBIOS and have had little proof to show, and we've been trying for ages with all sorts of resources to make them work properly, and they won't, but for all the the confidence you have, you can't run a few tests and make sure for us. Plus, few people are still using 880Ms by choice anymore. You're basically asking people to start a series of vBIOS testing on the off chance that you really do have a "golden" vBIOS, and haven't felt like giving proof to back up your statements, which is making people suspicious.

    If all you want is to get annoyed because people are skeptical, and various others have even soft-bricked their cards in the past trying these vBIOSes that various other people have claimed are so good
     
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    @GodlikeRU If you claim to have a working throttless vbios it's should be pretty painless on your end to run a benchmark and put it to rest right? I don't understand the resistance, especially when you're trying to help fellow members out.
    I wouldn't flash a vbios without being 100% sure about it. It's a royal PITA and a solid few hours of screwing and multiple teardowns unbricking these GPU's vs. a 5 minute benchmark on your end to inspire confidence . Folks with 17's and 18's don't even get the luxury to unbrick if things go south. Caution is totally justified here.
     
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    That is why I don't understand with people. The 880ms deliver great performance so why should I spend my money on the 900 series when the 1000 series are just a months away maybe a year. The 880ms are far from being EOL too as nVidia is constantly pushing driver updates and are improving the performance considerably with each one. Don't count the witches 3 update as it just messed up the Kepler cards intentionally(nVidia will still be nVidia so ;) :))

    I've already uploaded one but people think it's been tricked LMAO. Why would I do such a think, I have a life people come on, I am not a waste less piece of bone and skin just trying to **** with people :) :) :) I like the performance I get from my 880ms and I am just saying it, it works flawlessly at ultra for every single demanding games I threw at them except the witcher 3 as it was intentionally crippled by nVidia to draw attention to their 900 series. An update is on the way, I am currently getting 45fps with everything cranked to ultra except hair works. Expecting a 15fps difference which will make it 60fps :) And I can upgrade my 18 whenever I feel like it so I can just swap the 880ms for the 980ms any day but just don't feel like it's needed. The 980ms are fully operational now, thanks to Mr Fox for notifying me :), except with some throttling issues still to be dealt with. BTW you can check my scores if you want too, keep in mind, I got it with stock clocks 880ms

    I uploaded one and you said it was tricked. Am sorry but I can't do anything more :)
     
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    No, no you haven't. You've posted a picture.
    A validation link would be like this: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3489139
     
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    @PC GAMER, and @GodlikeRU, you guys can just run 3DMark at D2 Ultimas clock speeds on your 880M's and then compare Graphics Scores - if you get a similar result, then maybe that helps proves it's fixed. So, you'd want to run it at 1058Mhz on the core, and 1500Mhz on the VRAM - then you can compare scores to D2 Ultimas linked score. Or if you can't reach 1058Mhz on the core then choose a slightly lower overclock & post your results - then I guess D2 Ultima could run the same test at the same clocks as yours and you can compare.
     
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    It would be far easier for them to run their cards at stock and have D2 Ultima bring his cards down to 880M stock clocks.

    And for the last time, @PC GAMER use the edit function! Stacking posts is against the forum rules!
     
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    It's quite difficult to make a high benchmark score with crippled hardware at stock (even worse with gtx880m sli maximum overclocked +135mhz you can do with a stock vbios). It is not certain he will submit the 3Dmark11 and 3DMark Fire Strike to 3Dmark.com and get scores verified. I think @PC GAMER understands this but he will not admit it in the thread :rolleyes:.
     
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    I did not buy 3dmark thus I can't access the full version of the program :) sorry and the photo isn't tricked in any way as I already mentioned before I have a life and won't do such things as post a fake photo on the Internet. :)

    Where is the result at?

    I won't say it twice cause I am just stacking posts which is illegal to the forum rules so I will say it one last time, I did not purchase the damn thing. If you don't want to believe the scores I got at CLOCK SPEEDthat's fine. I am fully enjoying my games here :) and will gladly upgrade once the 880ms starts slowing down. I am sorry none of you can't believe me as you think I tricked the 3dmark scores even though it clearly say 2 gtx 880ms as my gpu :( when I will feel the need(when the 880ms can't handle games at ultra 60+fps) I will gladly swap my GPUs for the 900 series or the 1000 series depending on when it comes out. Cheers everyone and sorry again if you guys have trust issues :)
     
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  50. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    There are other ways to validate what you say... But I get the feeling it will all be excuses anyway so I'm not going to bother.

    I'll leave it up to @Mr. Fox if he wishes to pursue disciplinary action for your continued use of post stacking despite warnings, however.
     
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