Just got my 880M twins!

Well, the core clock on stock 980M is about equal to the max stable core overclock on most 780M or 880M, so that makes perfect sense and doesn't actually involve optimization. If you overclock a 780M to match a stock 980M you are going to see very similar performance.

 

You are absolutely right @Mr.Fox. The difference can be said to be minimal under the right condition as you just said. Games in general are not hard to run at all but I think the Kepler cards should be more optimised for NVIDIA Gameworks. I checked on the GeForce hardware page and the 980m has the same technology and features as the 880m for the exception of one:NVIDIA GAMEWORKS which is why the fps on Kepler is low compared to the maxwell ones.

 

Well, I kind of doubt NVIDIA GameWorks™ is going to give you more FPS. It might change the appearance if you enable those features on GPUs that support it. If anything, increasing the eye candy is more likely to reduce framerate on supported GPUs.

 

I asked if @PC GAMER soon shall run those 3Dmark11 test and compare the score with a couple Gtx780m sli that run lower clock speed than his gtx880m. But he just talk and talk crap without performing the test as he has said he will do .. The question of the crippled gtx880m which are alleged to function properly, are now only watered down with crap/nonsense chat... Time to run the promised tests now...
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9028851 Graphics Score 17,771
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8300850 Graphics Score 17826

 

That's true Mr.Fox but that won't make me stop using it, in fact I have NVIDIA Gameworks enabled on all the games that support it like far cry 4 with the exception the witcher 3 as I would have to turn down some settings if I were to use it.

 

Yea nvidia gameworks is a bad thing for the industry even though I do enable its features

 

Yes @Splintah but don't deny it, the effects are beyond GORGEOUS especially on the upcoming batman arkham knight I have NVIDIA Gameworks enabled on all my games except the witcher 3 as I would have to set some graphics settings down in order to play at or more than 60fps so I just leave hairworks off.
@Papusan can you give me a link to a demo version of 3dmark 11 that offers the 1080p option. I am planning on buying the bundle soon but I am short of cash for the moment, sorry

 

Gameworks isn't the only thing Maxwell has over Kepler. Have you even bothered to look at the white paper?!

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...=NA03EUWf8sItmcyHn9Jd1A&bvm=bv.94455598,d.b2w

http://devblogs.nvidia.com/parallelforall/maxwell-most-advanced-cuda-gpu-ever-made/

 

yea man, saving up for that second titan x :x

 

The vast majority in our community and other' test 3Dmark11 with Large P. This means Performance... Performance = 1280x720 (720P).

3DMark 11 Basic Edition Download v1.0.132. This is free for you and as your inheritance... Today or tomorrow I expect to see a validated link with your 3Dmark11 test score... I have Google the link for you but I will not download it for you... http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/3dmark-11-basic-edition-download.html

 

Yeah I forgot to mention those bits and whistles my bad sorry

 

Here you go...

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9877303

My GPUs were at 987MHz (I couldn't get them to 993MHz for whatever reason and there were a few dips to the 970MHz range due to power limit). See if you can match that score.

Make sure you hit benchmark only and set the screen to stretched, not centered, as there is a performance hit with centered.

Just to show how futile this really is... even with my GPUs so underclocked, and these 880Ms so overclocked, I still had a 10% FPS advantage... that's 987MHz 980M vs 1175MHz 880M.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/9877303/3dm11/8510683

That CPU is a hex-core which obliterates mine, hence the physics and overall score difference.

This one was the same highest 880M result versus my highest 980M result...

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/8510683/3dm11/9569354

 

How do I

When I run 3dmark 11, it's not full screen as I don't have the paid one so it's running at 1280*720p. How do i get it to run at 1080p.

 

It doesn't run at 1080p. Change the "centered" option to "stretched" on the main screen.

 

Can you post your score again @Ethrem, I am having trouble opening it. Here you go: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9877340
My GPUs as you can see were running at 984MHz but when actually running the benchmark, it was running between 678Mhz and 815MHz only on the combined test did it say at a constant 984MHz. I forgot to mention that my 880ms were running at 68-70 degrees each. They were clearly not working at full speed

 

Well stop messing with your clocks. Reset them to default... Your RAM has a slight overclock. It's obvious you played with the settings and its causing you to throttle more than you would otherwise.

880M vs 880M

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/9877340/3dm11/8350184

Funny we got the exact same graphics score though lol

 

Here is a comparison with your gtx880m vs slightly overclocked gtx780m but with much lower clock frequency than your gtx880m... Gtx880m are unable to compete with old gtx780m which is clocked much lower than your gtx880m.
Gtx780m 905/1250 vs Gtx880m 993(984)/1265. This shows that Gtx880m not functioning properly... http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/9877340/3dm11/9028851

 

I haven't overclocked my 880ms at all. I just tried to force it to run at 993MHz which obviously it didn't as it said 984MHz. Frankly @Papusan My 880ms were running at 786Mhz on average during the test (GPU-Z).It could have gotten a much much higher score if it was working at 993MHz boost speed.

 

You have a 30MHz core overclock and a 15MHz memory overclock. Remove them and run a fully stock run, not trying to force anything....

 

You must remember nearly all gtx880m is similar. They are all crippled as we said to you many many times in this tread. Gtx880m will never be fixed. You must soon realize that they never ever will functioning properly.

 

@Ethrem I have to run 3dmark 11 at base clock then?

 

Yes because any tweaks made to a stock 880M are actually detrimental to the performance of the card. It runs ridiculously close to its maximum power spec out of the box. Any adjustments pushes it there faster.

 

OMG ANOTHER P370SM3 USER.
I've never met another.

 

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There you go @Ethrem: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9877828
Considerably less as the cards were throttling way more than if I forced them to run at 993MHz.

 

@PC GAMER
Did you flashed vBIOS?

 

Try other drivers. Maybe try Mr Fox mod drivers. Try also 352.86

 

You're also using the broken drivers...

Try 337.88, I had the best results with those. Even Mr. Fox is having throttle issues with the 353 drivers you are using so that's not a surprise...

 

@GodlikeRU, unfortunately I am still using the stock VBIOS, might give flashing a new VBIOS a try but I am just too afraid of messing things up . @Papusan, I did use Mr.Fox's modded VBIOS but noticed that my AW was acting weird but I think i might install it again. @Ethrem, I though that the 353.00 was supposed to be a big step forward even though I did read Mr.Fox's comment. Still a bit disappointed by all of this to be frank with you

 

Look at this post and my replies... http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/how-to-flash-my-vbios.776686/#post-10015314

 

If anyone is interested: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9879264
My second run. I did try to "overclock" it so that it runs at 993MHz. Still no luck, averages at 810MHz this time around though . I might have to flash a VBIOS. In might, I mean necessity

 

is 353.06 broken some way? I'm curently using 352.86 and haven't noticed any weird behaviour while playing games.. except in PES2015 when some times the game lags as hell, worst than using a very low end video card

 

The new drivers are supposed to fix Kepler performance issues.

 

Hey guys, just to clarify my doubts, I can't overclock my 880ms due to the VBIOS shutting them down if it's too high. I tried running 3dmark 11 on 1044 MHz but my AW just froze. What should I do to attain @Ethrem or @Mr. Fox Over locking level. I know my 880ms stay at an average of 810 MHz while benchmarking because the Vbios Throttles it down. Any suggestions other than flashing a new VBIOS.

 

You have no choice but to flash sv7s vbios to stop the throttle. From the dips you're telling us about, you actually have the worst cards I've seen on the forums. They are power throttling much harder than I've seen or heard. The only fix for that is to unlock the power limit and the only way to do that is with a custom vbios.

 

Okay thanks Ethrem. What I find weird is it only throttles when benchmarking but performs flawlessly with little to no throttle in actual games. I mean like what ?! do you when directs 12 will come out? I so want to run a couple of benchmarks with it as it's suppose to drastically improve the performance.

 

3dmark and similar benchmarks draw a ton of power on the card because they are programmed to. Fire up Witcher 2 and max out everything including ubersampling and it will throttle as well. Same goes for a lot of games, especially with 8xMSAA.

 

It's certainly not nice to own graphics cards that provide crippled benchmark results due to throttling. Have you tested the new Nvidia driver that was released today?

 

So I made a graphic with the last NVIDIA drivers while running 3dmark 11 at stock clocks with custom vBIOS (data from GPU-Z Log):



As you can see there is no throttling, GPU clock is stuck solid at 993 MHz while the GPU load is close to 100%

 

??? I see heavy throttling example here???

 

Well I did run the witcher 2 at ubersampling and everything else maxed out, the cards were running at a stable 993MHz and provided me with 50-60fps on average. I played crysis 3 maxed out (8xmsaa) and the clocks were running at stable 993MHz giving me 50fps on average. I am still using the 353.00 driver by the way. I am installing the newer driver as we speak.

 

Hey @Ethrem can you tell me the benefits of flashing a new VBIOS other than having full control of your cards. I saw people saying they got only 10% increase in benchmarks which does not justify the risk and on stock VBIOS the highest 3dmRk 11 and 3dmark firestrike I got were 15989 points and 12500 points respectively. Can you tell me what sort of points I will get with the best VBIOS?

 

I give up. If you are happy with things as they are now and you don't wish to do any modding, then don't do it. It isn't without risk. As I said before I had issues with the vbios and ultimately the only real solution was getting rid of the cards.

I don't believe for a minute that your cards are boosting under those conditions because they are throttling so bad in benchmarks. Open up GPU-Z, click sensors, click log to file, save that one. Open another GPU-Z and click sensors, click the drop down box and switch to the other 880M, log to file. Go play your games, both of them, then uncheck the log to file on both and upload them here.

 

I will. I know @Ethrem but I am kind of short in solutions here, don't get me wrong I want to flash a VBIOS so bad I dream of it but the fact is with me being in university, my laptop is my life and if something happens to it I am basically screwed. I will definitely run Crysis 3 and upload the GPU-Z log file. Forgot to mention The Witcher 3 now with the new driver

 

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9882638

 

594MHz with full load is heavy throttling example. My ones never go below about 720 MHz with nothing important on the screen and 854MHz with full load.

 

yeah, it was quite weird but that was with stock VBIOS so 3dmark firestrike actually makes my 880ms run at a higher average. I don't know why. Even with this heavy throttling going on, I always manage to get high 15000around 15898.

 

That looks good to me because you're at 993Mhz all the time while GPU load is at 100%. (Of course the card drops it's clocks when they're not being used, and that's why there's those drops in clocks occasionally, but when it's at 100% load it's at 993Mhz - good job!)

 

That's how works svl7 bios mod but it's unstable and some newest UEFI 880M can't flash it, it also gives black screens and stuttering sometimes. That's why we should do new custom vBIOS based on newest stock I gave You.

 

We should ask Johnksss himself or slv7 to make a new VBIOS? @GodlikeRU have you asked @Mr. Fox yet?

 

I already asked Mr Fox to do this and he said that these persons dont have enough time or dont want to help us atm.