M18X BF3 beta

Anyone tried 10.9 with cap 1 ?

 

I couldn't find where to get it from yesterday. When I googled it I got nothing.

 

Here it is: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/hotfix/catalyst_application_profiles/amd_catalyst_11.9_cap1.exe

 

Says "Unathorized download" and "We're sorry, but this download request cannot be authorized. As an option, you may visit any of the pages below for information about our services and products: "

On another post somewhere I saw a note about an ISP blocking the page or something like that? Seems wierd to me, it's almost like it is a members only area.

Here is the only place I've ever downloaded them from, I thought it was the "official" site to do it at. Yesterday the cap1 was not there, but I notice it is now so I will grab it. Maybe this page takes longer to get the update posted? Anyway, thanks for trying to help me

http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/pages/crossfirex-app-profiles.aspx

 

Maybe some issue with the link or they decided to pull it as they really didn't mean to have it go live just yet? Dunno.

 

Download the new cap from here: Rage3D

 

Got it from Guru 3d yesterday but don t have the game yet.

 

CASPIAN BORDER IS UP NOW WOOT WOOT sorry for yelling lol

 

they are just stressing the servers. its just a lagfest and not even playable.

 

I second this

 

What a difference a 2920 makes in this game .... crazy sauce. on 11.8 drivers i am gettin 65+ fps outside and 75+ inside .... on the new drivers should rock

 

its installed? you going for a world record?

 

are you being sarcastic or serious? is there that much of a noticeable difference?

 

Ya I am curious too. I could have sworn modern i7s play games no differently? I had a 920xm unlocked TS and noticed no difference in games compared to the i7 740. IF this is true then IVY bridge will make a difference too. I really think it's only a GPU thing with current processors. I haven't heard of modern games being CPU bound on any i7s????

 

new 11.0 preview #2 drivers are out today. they smooth out the game a little bit in crossfire on the metro map.

edit; actually they do a great job at smoothing out the frame output in metro map. almost no stuttering now!

 

I am being completely serious ... there is a monsterous difference....

But then think about something like Vantage ... same thing ... GPU scales in that game based on CPU and CPU has a huge impact ...

And Zero I will be going for a World Record this week. I am aiming to break 9K overall, if I can keep my GPU score above 9K and get this CPU cranking ... should be fun.

 

part of the increase is because the 2630 was at 2.6Ghz stock or 2.73ghz with a 105BCLK overclock. the xx6xx series and the 2920xm are a very nice speed bump up. So this 600Mhz diff is letting those 6990s breathe! I have my 2760 running at 3.4Ghz and its quite a nice bump from the 2720.

 

well I had my 2630 running just over GHz ... at 107.48 bclk But yea ... major difference still ...

Running a lvl 3 OC atm ... and a bigger cache ... very nice

 

Told ya. The 6990's shine when paired with an extreme CPU

 

When you over clocked your CPUs did you disable Hyperthreading?

 

I just OC'd my CPU with the standard level 3 OC ... didn't do anything else, didn't ahve time. That will come this week.

 

I never disable HT, just bump the multipliers and let it rock!

Actually, Level3 is so not optimized. you really don't need to bump the Flex (I always keep it 0, even @ 45-45-45-45). Also, the Long and Short PWR limits can be lowered a bit to help the temps.

 

oh wow, very lucky. that would be 2.8ghz on 4 cores

 

Yea most benches would quote my CPU over 3Ghz... it was quite nice. Maybe I could sell that CPU on Ebay ? Of course then if my machine craps out I won't be able to return it will I ?

 

its in your best interest to keep it.

 

Just finished playing Caspian border for two hours. Must say that this is the battlefield I was looking for. I was able to play Caspian with all settings on ultra (4xAF 2xAA) at 1600x900. I normally got around 60fps but, sometimes I would dip really quickly to 40fps. When I dipped to 40fps the game felt like I was playing at 20fps. I hope this is just a driver issue. All my clocks are stock.

 

it is the a game issue and will be fixed upon release. devs noted that "stabalize frame rates" was a bug they squashed

 

did you notice fps increase in BF3 with the extreme cpu?

 

Not really because there are CPU ONLY tests that run. 3dmark11 is less CPU only based and is why a lot of 2920 users are using vantage to see how far they can push to get the highest score.

However I can see that maybe there will be an FPS boost but can't imagine it being more than a couple FPS as these cards are all based on the same architecture. It will be interesting to see people that show video footage because if there is indeed a big FPS difference then it will be worth my investment to get a 2920 off ebay.

 

Dave and Argh... there was a Huge Difference in performance in BF3 with the xtrm CPU. I was running my 2630 OC'd heavily ...as per my sig.... But just switching to the new CPU running on old drivers (11.8) Massive gains in FPS ... with my 2630 I had to upgrade to the beta drivers in order for the game to be playable.

I could ... put it back in and do a comparison ??? but I think I have gained about 20FPS already.

 

Battlefield 3 Beta Performance Test > CPU Scaling and Performance - TechSpot Reviews

this review is stating that clocks aren't that important (2600k/920 are tied). would you be able to run your 2920 underclocked? maybe test 2.6ghz vs. lvl 3 OC.

 

mmmm yup I could try and do this ... but its going to have to wait ... Cottage with the fam right now, I am just squeezing in forum posts when I can

 

20 fps lol? how about this if you got the energy; record metro gameplay with xm cpu on ultra settings and post on youtube. then install older cpu and do the same.

 

Of course there will be no compensating for Cache Size ...

And this might be a real difference. 8MB vs 6MB .... thats a 34% gain in Cache ... major difference.

 

instead of creating a new thread, and since were on this subject, ill bite:

1. can you overclock a CPU to put out a little more without it overheating (meaning do a stable overclock that would allow you to play BF3 for 2 hours straight w/o the CPU crapping out on you)? because from what ive heard, you should not keep a CPU overclocked at max settings since its producing more heat, or whatever the underlying problem was... is this true? What numbers would be stable to do such an OC?

2. how DO you OC? ive never done it in my life, but im curious as to how you OC a CPU and GPU.

 

2720QM doesn't seem to able to Overclock I found? :[ Is that the bad news?

 

all non extreme cpus can overclock using the "base" clock aka BCLK. The highest range reachable is around 108Mhz. The average user hits 105Mhz.

So to estimate your overclock you take what your CPU hits using 4 cores which is in your case 3Ghz. It'll be 105x30 instead of 100x30. This will give you 3150Mhz, a 150Mhz overclock. Not bad but nothing amazing. You probably won't notice any difference. This will also overclock your RAM.

 

in other workds, you risk instability for nothing.

 

pretty much lololol. stick to overclocking GPUs.

 

I completely disagree with both of you ... Overclocking my 2630 gave substantial increases in performance in games and in benching. I don't know if this will translate into the 27xx CPUs or not. But it clearly did in on my 2630.

Also playing with power/turbo durations makes a big difference.

here is my 2630 maxed ...
AMD Radeon HD 6970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2630QM Processor,Alienware M18xR1 score: P23726 3DMarks

Anyone else hitting 24K vantage on a 2630 ???

Note CPU score of about 19K ... standard CPU score on 2630 ... 17k or < Stock CPU score of a 2920 (without any OC) 21Kish

AMD Radeon HD 6970M video card benchmark result - Genuine Intel(R) CPU 0 @ 2.40GHz,Alienware M18xR1 score: P22642 3DMarks

 

thank you. This is what i'm saying. I wish people would frap and record if they say there are huge differences. I knew CPU never has really been an issue and I just wasn't sure for the new SB but this more than proves it looking at the graphs. I think I will pass on 2920 until 7 series come out..they may benefit from having a better CPU if the increases are significant.

 

3ghz is about the sweet spot for games @ 1080P.

using the same site they get amazing results using a cpu at 3ghz vs. 2.5ghz

Crysis 2 GPU & CPU Performance Test > CPU Scaling - Core i7 2600K - TechSpot Reviews

here's my 24k vantage run:

AMD Radeon HD 6970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2720QM Processor,Alienware M18xR1 score: P24043 3DMarks

I'll do vantage run on my current system later to see if this 3.4ghz cpu can do. in games i notice no diff from the 2720qm. im not a fraps addict though so i dont have numbers ;p (did that when i was younger).

 

Heck even the dual core AMD at 2.6 on a worse architecture performs at 48 FPS Vs intel's best OC at 5.2ghz at many more threads. Bottom line; any SB processor is going to perform just fine with bf3 and any gains are likely psychological unless we get real FPS tests comparing differences at speeds like the GPU Crysis 2 tests.....

 

yea i find it weird that AMD is so fast in BF3. i think the beta engine is wacky when giving results. i7 should come out on top in the final release.

 

Shaden your arrogance sometimes is really exhausting. People haven't really bothered with OC'ing non xm CPU's because the return is almost pointless. I did it for "shoots" and giggles. You always talk about how much work you did with your 6990s..it's just upping your Trixx which anyone can do and you happened to get good cards.

You make a claim about how much better in BF3 your FPS is but then disregard specific CPU tests done that shows its VERY SMALL and the point of the article really was dual Vs quad core.

You mention how benching is impacted by the better CPU...OF COURSE. They specifically have CPU ONLY tests and then collate all the runs. Benching is always going to be affected by CPU as they take that into consideration unless it is a GPU only test like Heaven or Metro2033.

So because you got 24K on a vantage run with a 2630 isn't because you have really pushed and tweaked settings; it's just that you manipulated very easy settings that one can watch on youtube. That's all I did. There was nothing to it. Your 6990s are fast cards and that is why your scores are the way they are. You use Trixx and have always stated that. There is nothing to Trixx.

It's only frustrating to me because a lot of people come to the forums to get advice on system configs and you seem to really push for YOUR decisions (vehemently discussing 6990 Vs 580 endlessly) and now are doing the same thing with the 2920 even though it is proven to have no basis in BF3 or any modern game on a modern CPU at HIGH resolution.

 

Dave ... there is actually zero arrogance in my posts. Maybe you read a tone into them that I do not write with, but I assure you there is none. I never claim any amount of 'work' into my OCing. In fact if you read my posts i have commented several times at the LUCK of getting the cards I got. Trixx is the easiest thing going.

That does not discount that there is actual work. Its not as simple as turning on trixx and going. I have in fact spent hours and hours tweaking settings, pushing Core clocks up 5 and mem clocks down 10, running bench after bench to find my optimal settings. Reading articles on what others have done and incorporating their wisdom into my own experience. Incrementally increasing my Bclk and stress testing and pushing the CPU to ensure stability ... and yes ... LUCKING into a CPU that would run at 107.48 blck.... Disabling Card Sync and OCing each GPU card independently or leaving Card Sync on and OCing both equally for hour and hours to determine which is the best setup ..... But thats not hard work ... it just takes time. But thanks for discounting those hours so easily.

I don't ever claim arrogance, nothing in my life or my experience ever makes me better than anyone else ... I as a leftist (going a little political here, but I am a Professor of Politics and philosophy) believe that all people are equal in worth, that our experiences and our biology determine out decisions and we can not claim superiorty based on the outcomes of our life. It is almost completely (if not completely) chance.

But I will not shy away from my lived experience and observations. OCing my 2630 made serious gains. When I played SC2 on my CPU at stock settings on Desert Strike it would bog down as the massive amounts of units accumulated. On the OC'd CPU this was drastically improved. My Benching on the OC'd 2630 speaks for itself, Dramatic improvement in results... I posted the links, how can you disregard that !?!? My FPS on my OC'd 2630 on 11.8 clocks was about 15-20 FPS lower then it is on the 2920 ... I couldn't figure out how people like Aiki were claiming such higher FPS when I was struggling along in the 40s and 50s at best ... even on the beta drivers ... I popped in the 2920, with only 11.8 drivers, loaded BF3 ... and was hitting 75FPS ...

No arrogance, simple observation. That is simply what i have seen.

 

Unless someone builds an ultimate weapon and nukes everyone else out and claims the superiority

Also, "a Professor of...." sounds Farnsworth'ish again, can't help it, lol


On a serious note, totally agree

 

lol Thanks Aiki

 

I'm a Doctor of Love.

 

Ahh for the sake of offtopic quick waxy philosophical musings; I agree. However, is it just our biology and experiences shaping decisions? Or could there be institutional powers that be that determine our decisions? Could be media manipulation, institutional discrimination and other forces (structural functionalist ideology). I am a big believer in biology, experience, and power influences and how it affects individuals. Then again, I am a MSW clinical social worker and run programmes for those disenfranchised so I love these type of talks..oh wait..I'm on a tech forum. Err..Yes BF3 is coming out soon! My 6990s better arrive and hopefully OC like Shadens Beasts