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    Modified vbios for GTX580M at widezu69's request

    Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by Saltius, Oct 7, 2011.

  1. TheOneBillyGum

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    I hate to ask this but, I follow bar-code's instruction but end up getting this message, "No Nvidia display adapter was found", same message even I try the following command "nvflash --list, any idea?"

    Spec: M18X, Windows7 x64 ultimate, 580m Sli, with the new BF3 beta driver.
     
  2. bar-code

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    You have missed ONE most important bit!!!

    boot in win 7 and just before you load the windows logo press F8 to get into the startup screen.

    In there you must select disable driver signature and then it should boot in windows

    Without doing this you will get no nvidia driver found
     
  3. Saltius

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    Well guys. I've finished this mod vbios of 580M which set the clocks of P0 and P1 as follow:

    ------------AW_GTX580M_06_725_900_087.ROM------------
    P0 0.87v
    core:725MHz
    shader:1450MHz(bumped shader:1508MHz)
    memory:900MHz

    P1 0.87v
    core:725MHz
    shader:1450MHz(bumped shader:1450MHz)
    memory:900MHz

    ------------AW_GTX580M_06_750_850_092.ROM------------
    P0 0.92v
    core:750MHz
    shader:1500MHz(bumped shader:1560MHz)
    memory:850MHz

    P1 0.92v
    core:750MHz
    shader:1500MHz(bumped shader:1500MHz)
    memory:850MHz


    ------------AW_GTX580M_06_800_900_092.ROM------------
    P0 0.92v
    core:800MHz
    shader:1600MHz(bumped shader:1664MHz)
    memory:900MHz

    P1 0.92v
    core:800MHz
    shader:1600MHz(bumped shader:1600MHz)
    memory:900MHz

    ------------AW_GTX580M_06_825_950_092.ROM------------
    P0 0.92v
    core:825MHz
    shader:1650MHz(bumped shader:1716MHz)
    memory:950MHz

    P1 0.92v
    core:825MHz
    shader:1650MHz(bumped shader:1650MHz)
    memory:950MHz


    For safety, I just added password to the zip file. The password has been sent to bar-code and 0x29A through PM.

    Once both of them return the test result and confirm no harm, I shall remove the password.
     

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  4. Xeneize

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    Very nice! will this allow you to scale down to 0.87 and stock clocks through Nvidia Inspector?

    Also do you mean Memory 1850?
     
  5. Saltius

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    Clocks possible while voltage not.

    And memory 850MHz is the real clock of GD5 = 1700MHz GD3_Equivalent clock of GD5.
     
  6. bar-code

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    tnx i'll test now, 0.92v is still way in the safe zone np!
     
  7. Xeneize

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    Very interested to see how these work out in 24/7 every day usage. But at the very least it should provide for a good Benchmark VBios.

    Thanks for the work man! I tried rep on you but have to wait 24hrs.

    Bar-Code: If you need a set of hands helping the testing shoot me the password :)
     
  8. bar-code

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    no bench tests yet just flashed and as you can see still idle at 50mhz np but the standard card has now transformed to a 750mhz 580m with no manual overclock :)))
     

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  9. bar-code

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    Ok tried to run a normal run of 3d vantage with the 750mhz settings nothing overclocked nothing touched, 3d vantage freezes and wont run. as soon as i drop the Memory overclock from 850mhz to 800mhz all is good.

    Saltius can we just adjust the po p1 0.92v at 750mhz 1500mhz shaders and leave the memory alone this can be overclocked itself at the owners will.

    edit screen attached everything left stock except dropped the memory to 800mhz all worked perfect no throttle etc
     

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  10. TheOneBillyGum

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    Hello Mr.Bar-code, I am sure that I followed this step too, but it still show me the same message whatever I use the following command "nvflash -b backup0.rom" or "nvflash --list".

    Any idea? thanks! ;)

    EDIT: Oooops, how careless I am!? I forgot to run the "cmd command" with adm' rights lol, everythings done now, I can confirm that Arma2 OA works better now, especially in the map "chernarus".
     
  11. Saltius

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    I've edited my original post #53. Just check it.
     
  12. bar-code

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    will test now, sorry had to pop out for a moment!. I will test the later one 800/800/1500. if this works im sure the lower spec one should be no problems

    tnx you!
     
  13. bar-code

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    ------------AW_GTX580M_06_800_800_092.ROM------------
    P0 0.92v
    core:800MHz
    shader:1600MHz(bumped shader:1664MHz)
    memory:800MHz

    P1 0.92v
    core:800MHz
    shader:1600MHz(bumped shader:1600MHz)
    memory:800MHz


    I can confirm this level 3 above works perfect no throttle or artifacts glitches etc all good. 3d vantage completed temps stayed at 69/68 respectably with fans on full bolt of course. Level 2 and 1 on post #53 are both fine as well no problems what so ever.


    Also note originally when i said it was crashing with 850mhz memory this was my capture program causing this so the memory at 850mhz is fine (my apologises).

    Your a god Saltius at work here!!! totally appreciate this.

    0x029A will do tests more extensively then me, so i would wait for his results and coments before you open this to other forums users.

    Now if possible my last request would be to have a 850mhz / 850memory / 1700 shader to test and thats it.

    Hey Xeneize, please pm me i'll like to know what your doing at 750mhz etc and getting a higher gpu score in 3d vantage lol. This 800mhz for you will break you over 30k easy!
    editted do worry i noticed your running ssd where im not!!! grrrr i must get some ssd
     

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  14. Saltius

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    A new OC test vbios has been added in post #53.
     
  15. bar-code

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    Saltius read your pm
     
  16. Saltius

    Saltius Notebook Evangelist

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    Read.
    I've corrected.
     
  17. bar-code

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    cool!! ok for me i tested 850/850/1700 starts to slightly artifact and then towards the end of 3d vantage it freezes (each card would be different of course), so 0.92v is not enough. to be safe the 820/850/1640mhz would be it safest limits without going any higher than 0.92v.
     
  18. littleone562

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    Saltius how much higher than 0.92v can we go? I would like to try higher as well, can you try the next increment like 0.95v or whatever it is. Currently my cards clock stable at 840/1680 and 1012mem.
     
  19. bar-code

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    If 0.87v gives us stock 620mhz
    0.92v safe to 820/830mhz
    0.97v safe would be at least 1000mhz, not sure if it has another level of volt tho.

    Yes if i downclock the 850/850 to 830mhz its fine no freezes or artifacts all ok
     
  20. littleone562

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    Saltius if possible can you check into this. Very much appreciated.
     
  21. Saltius

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    I've made some overvolt test vbios last month both for AW and Clevo 580m. No luck, it seems that 0.92v is the highest we could get through modding vbios right now.

    I may want to make a new vbios just for bench setting the clock at 820/900/1640 or 820/950/1640.

    Can you get stable at 900+ memory?
     
  22. bar-code

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    Cool happy to test both of these! Yes i think memory can go to 900+ havent really tested above 850 tho. One way to see tho.

    Even at 820 at 0.92v is more than anyone would use. For my day to day stuff a 800/800 is fine with good temps.
     
  23. Saltius

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    You can just use NVinspector with 800/800 vbios to perform a 800/900/1600 or 800/950/1600 test first.
     
  24. bar-code

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    Yeap all perfect! running fine on 900 / 950 even 970 memory np.

    For me on a safe and normal operating condition, I think i am very happy with the 800/800/1600 0.92v and this will do me just fine. My temps are good and no throttle phew what else do i want :) so thank you!!

    I need Xeneize to test this 800/800/1600 with his ssd i bet a 30k in vantage easy!

    Xeneize/littleone562 check your pm!
     
  25. 0x29A

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    Hey there, this looks good so far. I won't have time today and prolly tomorrow for in-depth testing because of work, but I will get to it on Tuesday. I want to do it carefully without rushing, so everything is painfully clear.

    I believe stability won't be a problem at all, even at 800 core or higher. I will be testing for temperature levels. If we can get not more than 85*C at continuous 100% load @ 800/1600, this will be quite excellent.

    What vbioses are there so far? Cause I am getting lost here:
    1) 750/1500, 800 mem, 0.92V
    2) 800/1600, again, 800 mem, 0.92V?

    I wonder what is the correct ratio for mem. 800Mhz core is ratio (OC/stock) 1.29. Stock mem 750 x 1.29 = 967, but this seems kinda high. I believe we should be okay with mem 800. It's the shaders that count anyway.

    I will start from 750/1500/800.

    Bar-code, equip yourself with EVGA OC Scanner (let me know if you don't have it) and always do a quit 'heavy load mode' run when you apply new clocks. 5-10 min should do so you at least superficially how high temps go. Note that the highest gear the fans can go to is 3600 RPM. You may want to force max 3900 with HWiNFO.
     
  26. Saltius

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    yep! welcome. no rush!!

    we have a few levels here
    750/850 average
    800/800/which to me is the best all rounder
    750/750/ playing it safe
    850/850/ for extreme ppl

    good luck!
     
  28. 0x29A

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    Okay. I will do a continuous temp/load test @ stock. Then will go higher. Let's see what are the differences between 750, 800 and 850, temperature wise. I was going to replace pads, but I think for initial testing I'll stick to stock pads. Should give more universally applicable results.

    Sorry I cannot get to this earlier, but in the end there's no rush. Let's be careful here. Oh, I can see beautiful bench scores coming :D
     
  29. widezu69

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    I use 845 core, and 2000 (1000) memory. Those are the highest I can get in Vantage on my single GPU. I get a GPU core of 18k.
     
  30. bar-code

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    Nice! yes it would seem the stable for all these cards at 0.92v is around 830/845mhz np.

    Also can someone tell me if having ssd over normal 7200rpm hard drives will it improve my gpu score in vantage.

    For example will a same m18x spec wise, except the hard drive difference score more in gpu ssd vs 7200rpm
     
  31. Xeneize

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    Ok tested 800 @ 0.92

    * Temps do spike up about 8-9c more than wunning it @.87, my cards went up to 80c/83c
    * Did not experience ANY throttling at all
    * No artifacts

    However there was no increased performace either.... almost as if there was a hard cap or something.

    I don't think SSD will help at all in GFX Benchmarks, however my XM processor will and currently at lvl 3, can defo sqeeze 4k more out of the processor, but until I improve my GPU over 28000, I'll hold off on that. Also need to repaste and run these test in a cooler enviroment.

    http://i56.tinypic.com/2rzyivk.png

    3DMark is a whole different story. There was an evident performance increase, never seen anything above 7300 before.


    http://i51.tinypic.com/1623bkh.png
     
  32. bar-code

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    Yes i was experiencing the same results which now confirms since there is no throttle of any sort, it must be nvidia's oct/ocp taking control since they did stress furmark is on the banned list. Not sure tho!

    I will be doing some more tests in the next few days on difference stress testing apps to see if this is still the case (unbanned ones nvidia missed) or this could again be a load problem.
    Also Xeneize i hope your using hwin program to make the fans spin at full bolt for these test with mine at full i never pass 68/69 @800mhz. Cause there is another temp controlled throttle at 79/80c as well, i believe
     
  33. Xeneize

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    I was not using the fan control! good point, but I also need to do a repasting, and the ambient temps here are close to 80c. (in this room)

    I'm going to do another set of testings with better ambient temps and fan controls. I don't see any reason why we wouldn't see 30k with the 800/0.92 VBios.
     
  34. Saltius

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    Did you guys ever run into a GPU load decrease when doing vantage benchmark?
    Not clocks down but the GPU load instead.
    That can bring lower performance as well. And it is usually caused by insufficient power supply.
     
  35. 0x29A

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    I am pretty sure there isn't. I managed to heat up the cards up to 95*C and no throttle was noted. Playing Borderlands with fans force capped at 1500 RPM.
     
  36. neosis

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    Guys... I have a problem when trying to both backup my current bios and trying to implement the new bios...

    It's called ERROR: No NVIDIA display adapters found.

    If anyone has gotten this error before, and got around it, please let me know.

    [​IMG]
     
  37. TheOneBillyGum

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    Try to follow Bar-code's instruction at page 4, and don't forget to run "cmd" with admin rights or you will keep getting this message.
     
  38. Xeneize

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    That my friend is a great point!.... I think we may need a bigger more powerful brick.

    This screenie was taken during Jane Nash Vantage run, during the first 6000 frames. The SLI Indicator started awesome then it was hovering between 90-96% never reaching max load again.

    [​IMG]
     
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    hummmm...all very interesting...seems like i may have my work cut out for me once i get my machine....
     
  40. Xeneize

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    Hardly lol, I'm sure this will change a bit when you start playing in your lab :D
     
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    im pretty curious as to why your not scoring higher right now.... you have time now?

    these new scores are no where even close to where you should be..but i have a clue about that...

    3DMark Score 29003 3DMarks
    Graphics Score 28845
    CPU Score 29487
    Jane Nash 86.51 FPS
    New Calico 82.41 FPS
    AI Test 4128 operations/s
    Physics Test 37 operations/s


    now do you understand what i was talking about when i said "just because you can over clock the highest...really means nothing if those clocks don't run efficiently" or "with in their operating range".
     
  42. Saltius

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    If the GPU load decrease do exist, I don't think a larger power brick could solve it.

    Because there may be a current limit in the MB which strict the power supply. Even you find a 360W or 400W power adapter, the MB will only use 330W.

    Well, can U just run vantage @750MHz(or lower CPU clock) and check the GPU load meanwhile?
    If no GPU load decrease @750MHz while that happens @800MHz, an insufficient power supply could be confirmed.
     
  43. Xeneize

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    We'll test that later tomorrow... THx man.

    In the meantime

    Bar-Code: can't reply to your PM because you have to clear your inbox, it appears you have no more PM storage.
     
  44. Johnksss

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    bar-codes box stays on full. he is an important guy.. :D :)
     
  45. bar-code

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    Hey hey Johnksss, nice to see you here again, being missing ya!! When is your lappy due to arrive?
    i'll clear my box now!
     
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    it says the 12th, so we shall see. they already took my money.
     
  47. bar-code

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    cool, report back and i await another record from you, :)
     
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    yes...my curiosity is up...indeed.
     
  49. neosis

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    Does anyone have any thoughts on my post from Page 9?

    I ran CMD.EXE with admin rights. Also, I disabled driver signature requirements by pressing F8 during boot...

    I'm stumped. Plz help.

    thanks
     
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    try to use nvflash 5.100 and see how it works.
     
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