Also i have tested the new matched vbioses provided by Saltius and here're my test results for 800/800v 0.92v bios:
the GPU score in Vantage was as low as 25.7k and in 3dmark11 for GPU - 7.8k, it's the same as if i used a 750/800 clocks based on my prvious results.
The reason for that is very simple, during all the tests i can see some micro stuttering every few seconds and the fps drops down 10-20% and goes back on. I assume it swithces from P0 state to P1 and back again causing those fps dips. So for me personally it didn't solve the throttling issue and it gets really annoying wathcing the screen freezing every 3-5 sec... i remeber 0x29A experienced the same issue a while ago, post #50!
don't really understand how Xenize and bar-code received such a good scores in vantage (28k for GPU) and i'm really happy for u, guys... but as for today i don't really have any solution regarding my freeze issue!
EDIT: here's my 800/900 run with 0.92v bios, it's really too low for the GPU score...
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Hopefully it is NVIDIA's implemented throttling only for those benchmark/stability tests. Otherwise we need other solutions and further testing.
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As said, this is a temporary fix. The 'stuttering' will not go away.
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more like a delay of game....
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I don't see the stuttering in the original mod Vbios (620/1500/0.870) even when I OC to 744/1750...
I'm wondering if at all possible we could get a mod with the same clock speeds but a 0.890v or 0.900v...
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well sir....get ta testing...
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I think this isn't about power at all. This is just throttle kicking in -> the stuttering is caused by switching between P0 and P1. That's milliseconds, yet it is clearly visible on load graphs.
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Also stuttering is every 5 seconds.... the switching of clocks is not.
Another thing to note is that the load is never ever 100% even at stock clocks, I probably made 20 runs and never hit 100% load, so I guess there goes the 100% load theory. If there is a load embedded in the formula is not 100%, it's less -
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So in the end maybe there is yet another condition to be met there? You running 0.92v? Maybe at that high clocks overvolting protection comes into play? To be perfectly honest I am so tired of the whole throttle bull$hit. There is always something there. If not one thing than another. Surely, running any temperature test with the stuttering issue present is pointless.
I think I will just wait for that talk with Dell people about solving the throttle issue. I am done for now with the whole 'throttle research'. All's been said. We just keep running in a loop there. Like mice -
Yes I experience the Micro St. ONLY with 0.92v. All I'm trying to say is that the stuttering seems to happen every 5-6 seconds while the clock changes from P1/P0 only happen once maybe tweice a run.... see where I'm going? It makes no sense. -
Same I am so sick of this throttle BS, the only one that should exist is the thermal protection one. I have a dark feeling that Dell put in this whole power/load throttle because the 580M's needed a larger power supply than 330W. Anyways we will find out today when Xeneize hopefully is able to Kill A Watt his m18x.
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I've updated the test vbios in post#53
Specially added a 725-900 vbios at stock 0.87v.
Changed 850-850 0.92v to 825-950 0.92v
http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...-gtx580m-widezu69s-request-6.html#post7978530 -
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Thanks Saltius.
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Seems like one of my adapters doesn't like high memory clocks, artifacts appear all over the place if i set to 1900Mhz, so for now 1850Mhz is fine, but i may try even lower value to check how far can i go with the core clocks. Here's my last run 0.92v 800/1850:
The temps saty amazingly low, with both the system and the laptop pad fans on full blast the temps with the OC are 66/60C for the GPU's)
EDIT: looks like i got to the limit of my GPU's, the MAX OC is 830/1850 at 0.92v which is pretty neat. I went for Unigine 2.5 bench, cause i didn't notice any stuttering there like i had in 3dmarks. Also the temps peaked at 67/61C for the cards during the run
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Update the vbios in the top post.
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Thanks Saltius!!
011 Results:
750/1750 @0.880
KiloWatt Meter Results
Vantage GFX test #1: Max: 292 -Avg: 280
Vantage GFX test #2: Max: 295 -Abg: 265
Temperatures were fine: 76 both GPU max.... (sorry the screenie sucks)
Very low results/performance overall, stock BIOS performs at ~28k GPU at 740/1700/0.870 as a reference.
The low performance is mind boggling....my CPU clocks are 45x, we should be looking at ~29k GPU scores.... Any ideas what's up here?
I Did not unistall the drivers, is that even a factor?
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If possible.
Try three vbios in the top post.
1.AW_GTX580M_06_725_900_087.ROM
2.AW_GTX580M_06_750_850_092.ROM
3.AW_GTX580M_06_800_850_092.ROM
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725_900_087
GREAT SUCCESS!!!
My Best GPU score in Vantage so far and not in optimal thermal conditions (Room temperature close to 26c ugh)
Vantage Run
KILL A Watt Results:
GPU Test #1:
Max: 304 (peak, but for a sec then never went above 295)
Avg: 285
GPU Test #2
Max: 288
Avg: 275
3DMark 2011 Run
KILL A Watt Results: (Max/Avg)
Test #1: 276/272
Test #2: 261/245
Test #3: 250/245
Test #4: 257/248
Test# 5: 228/200
Test #6: 287/280
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Xeneize what do you think is the explanation for getting a higher score on a lower core clock and voltage at 0.87v vs 0.88v
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Alright, thanks will look into it.
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Ok went for the 800_900_092
And took my Laptop to an AC room
Awesome results!! smashed my record by 1300 Vantage points!
Kill A Watt showed a max of 328 and averaged 315, no hickups whatsoever, I'm thinking we got room for 850_900_092 with the PSU.
The 580M are simple amazing! The fact that you can OC 30-35% is incredible!, thx for this BIOS, I'll keep pushing once I get my CPU temps under control, but the GPU will definitely break 31k as Johnksss showed provided the right CPU raw power.
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yep...once you move your cpu up a bit in power...you should start maxing out around 350w to 360w.. which is what i was hitting with my other killowatt meter. but those will be spikes not just sitting there.
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Good job both of you with that wattage tests. \o/
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as in the words of scook9...to da freezer!..er ah i mean... to the mirc....
825/L/2000 on dual card...but i was tired and called it a night.
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Johnkss or xeneize have you guys noticed a difference in overclocking via vbios vs using a tool like nvinspector. Maybe that is causing the disparity in results?
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Modified vbios for GTX580M at widezu69's request
Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by Saltius, Oct 7, 2011.