New 8970m/8990m Coming SOON!!

sure it would, but that wikipedia source is pretty outdated and doesnt rely on any hard facts/sources, but rather speculation...
the latest info from upgrademonkey just cites identical specs with the 7970m aside from a slight 50mhz core oc. looking at that, one can just hope for the 8990m

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If there is a 8990m I will be so happy. Especially if its as good as the specs I have been reading about.
I just hope there will be a way to fit it into my M18x too

 

alienwares have so far shown to be pretty tolerant when it comes to inofficial gpu upgrades so id stay cautiously optimistic in your case

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Theres always hope

 

So when they will be released? I just burnt 2 of my 7970m's i think i should wait for 8970m's. What you guys can advice to me?

 

Ive heard next month for the 8970m's and late 2013 for the 8990m's... sucks about your 7970m's hopefully the green boys don't convince you to go 680m's haha

 

Already thought about green side.. because that damn 7970m's got so many issues. So 8970m will be like overclocked 7970m?? nothing more? If so i think 8970m might inherit 7970m's bugs

 

I had a 660m before my 7970m... obviously not a fair comparison I just prefer AMD... haven't had a single issue from my ebay spec 7970m other then it doesn't overclock as well as I'd like...

Nothings official yet but it seems that the 8970m will be an overclocked 7970m and rumour has it that the 8990m will be two 8970m's on the same card. Not sure how they will pull that off in a notebook.

 

lol i doubt that 8990m will be 2 chipped 8970m So what u think? Should i get 8970m when its out? Intel HD graphics 4000 does its work well in WoW now so i can wait

 

Thats just what I've heard, from friends and from articles from the internet. I don't believe anything until I see it.

If you are happy to wait I would just wait it out, unless you can find a GPU on the cheap.

I will be either going 7970m crossfire if the rumours are true that the 8970m is just an OC'ed 7970m, otherwise if the 8990m is the beast I've heard about it will definately weasel its way into my m18x.

 

There's a reason why i won't go 7970m crossfire again - that's because i can get a defective cards again. I won't to roll the dices again u can understand me. By the way did the clevo 7970m worked well in M18x R2? Because Clevo GTX680m have stability issues on M18x R2

 

Are you talking about my 7970m? Mine is out of a M18x. I know nothing about clevo's.

One bad experience is all it takes, luckily I am yet to have one

 

It took quite a few more than one bad experience to narrow my mind about AMD. I try to avoid basing my opinions on a one-time experience. But, it does make me happy to see some people having a good experience.

I haven't heard that before. I thought almost of the people with Clevo 680M where having a great experience. What kind of stability problems?

 

Im having a good experience with a single 7970m, not crossfire... from what I have heard thats when the issues start.

Either way hopefully AMD fix it all up by the 8970m.

 

Like pc won't startup at all after few months of use. Ted from hidevolution said not use clevo gtx680m in M18x r2. Whats ur advice Mr.FOX shoild i wait for 8970m or should i go for 680M's? What's better in the point of stability

 

Id wait for 8970m's as its pretty much a given that they will perform better then 680m's... and even if they do have driver issues then the prices of 680m's will plummet due to old tech...

That's if you can wait.

 

Ok, thanks mate. but i doubt prices for 680M Dell version would go any lower by a big difference. So i'm gonna wait and try 8970m, ill give amd another chance When i was using desktop 9600XT it was amazing experience.

 

Of course they aren't going to from dell lol.. Everywhere else though...

Hopefully you don't get shafted a second time

 

That's complete bs. I had the Clevo 680m sli in my former M18x for months without issue.

As for AMD crossfire, it has severe issues with latency and runt frames. AMD has no hardware frame metering solution like Nvidia so they plan to address it with a driver update in the future. However as of now, crossfire is not a viable choice.

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There's alot of games that simply run better without CF. Fortunately they are games that run well on 1 card. What gets me is games like Dues Ex/saints row 3/etc are all sponsored by AMD but feel dirty using CF, you'd think they could at least get it right if they sponsor a games development. Fortunately again, games that really need CF like BF3/Crysis 3 work well. But the future doesn't look great when all games will need CF to get a decent frame rate and 1 GPU won't cut it.

 

I am not aware of any issue with Clevo GTX 680M SLI installed in the M18x. In addition to 5150Joker having no issues with it, as far as I know, neither has mobiousblack. I don't know of anyone that installed the Clevo GTX 680M in an M18x R2 motherboard, but it should perform the same. We don't know how well 8970M will perform at this point. I'm gun shy based on past experience and if it were my own decision I would choose GTX 680M simply because it has worked flawlessly for me and it overclocks extremely well. If I were going to take a risk on a new generation GPU I would be more inclined to gamble on GTX 780M SLI than I would 8970M CF, but that is just my personal opinion.

 

It isn't possible to run Clevo 7970Ms in CrossFire in any M18x. The capacitors are too tall for the secondary heatsink to fit correctly, and you have to take a Dremel to the primary heatsink to make a Clevo fit in that slot. Therefore you're either running one Clevo and one Dell, or two Dell.

I ran one Clevo and one Dell together in CrossFire with no issues whatsoever.

The Clevo card did fail roughly a week later. I believe that this was a random hardware failure, and had nothing to do with the fact that I was running one Clevo and one Dell. My opinion.

 

Capacitors? The only ones on the board to my knowledge are the set between the inductors and you could use a thinner thermal pad if they are too tall :/

 

I decided to go with 680M, will get them next monday

 

How much dough did you have to shell out to get them to where you are? Hope it wasn't too hard on the wallet!

 

Probably not or impossible to say, but does anyone know if the gen after this upcoming GPU release will be compatible with the current R2 MB?

 

100$ DHL Express and 750$ each dell GTX 680M

 

Most likely as long as everything is still standard MXM3.0b.

The M15x had 260M and 5850M as it's GPUs and later had support for the 460M. Then later than that people were able to run cards like the 6970M/6990M then the 660M/670MX,688M,7970M, that's about three generations on the laptop and the 69XX/79XX/5XX/6XX series aren't even officially supported.

Most likely the M18xR2 will support these new 89XX/7XX series and the 9XXX/8XX series probably requiring a modified inf or maybe even work out of the box.

 

Yeah, believe me when I say I wish it was as simple as switching to thinner thermal pads.

 

You might have been easier finding lower profile caps and replacing them lol.

 

That Clevo GPU failed anyway, then I purposely bought a Dell because it actually meets true MXM 3 specifications.

 

Which vendor did you purchase them from?

 

The clevo card does as far as I know, there are no specifications on the height and positioning of the power circuitry, only not beyond a certain amount overall and the inductors are way higher than those caps.

 

the 7970s rocked when they worked for me.. i had no complaints.. but thats when they worked..

 

Not sure if this was mentioned before, but I really do think amd will release the 8990m. According to wikipedia's entry on the 8000 series. The list on the desktop version, cuts off at the 8970 and the mobile version cuts off at the 8990m.

And with the haswell CPUs possibly releasing on May 27th, we can expect the 8000m to be released around that time too.

So if we can trust the Wikipedia article, can we expect the 8990m to be released later than the 8970m's release, or even possibly be released alongside the 8970m with the haswell release?

 

We can't say anything as the mobile GPU space can easily be out of sync with the CPU space.

 

There's no source cited for that bit of information so I wouldn't place my faith in some anonymous wikipedian. The general concensus right now is that the info is almost certainly in error wrt the memory bus width and there's absolutely no reason to believe that to be the only error.

 

just got 680Ms no problems in photoshop, firefox hw accelration, darksiders2, etc etc... why i didn't bought them from the start!

 

Dont tell me this please you will make me jealous

 

man seriously, its awesome cards - just pasted, plugged them and installed 314.22 whql drivers = gg everything works fine (which didn't with crossfire 7970m)

 

Haha. Shame I have had no trouble with my single 7970m. I ummed and ahhed over 680m or 7970m and I feel like I may have made a rookie mistake.

Can't wait for these new cards to come out. Ill be all over them like a rash

 

Awesome Brother Heihachi88. I am very happy for you. Your patience waiting for things to improve was amazing. Congratulations, and welcome to the greener grass on the other side of the fence.

 

Thanks FOX hope they will serve me for a long time

 

omg, what an nvidia love fest in an amd thread go and buy ur 680m's some dinner already, guys

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You must be talking to us guys that have owned at least twice as many AMD GPU powered computers... at least that is my assumption. I still have one desktop and three laptops with AMD GPUs (one in CF). But, we should not pretend the emperor is wearing fine clothing when he is actually buck naked.

 

Lol, except both these fellas had 7970m's before switching to 680's, not exactly cheerleading either way.

Anyways, i think I'm pretty good to hold out for another 12 months

 

Ahem... I had 4 7970M video cards... 2 6990M and 4 6970M that let me down. I have never once experienced a problem with my 5870M and 4870M GPUs, but they're too old to be relevant any more. Brand doesn't matter when it comes to video cards. Reliability and performance does. Sometimes it makes sense to try something different when what you are doing is consistently not working out. It's not a brand love/hate thing at all. It's a problem hate thing, for sure. Who doesn't love not having problems?

I am honestly and sincerely hoping 8970M/8990M and whatever else may follow turns out really great. But, I am going to wait and see before dropping a dime on another red card because I think that would be prudent.

 

The problems must stem from crossfire, because myself and a few people I know have no issues whatsoever with single 7970m's, but the problems start with crossfire. Makes me a bit tentative to buy another 7970m as I really bought my M18x to run dual GPU's but I can't stand things not working how they are supposed to.

 

Nope... not really. The problems stem from inconsistent product quality and defects that result in hardware failures and malfunction. I've had similar problems with AMD (not ATI) desktop video cards, but not as many as mobile GPUs. CrossFire issues affect all AMD systems, but that is a software problem that affects performance more so than stability. CrossFire issues are not as bad as what some people make them out to be, or at least they has not been for me... mostly stuff like stuttering and screen tearing, not more serious issues like BSOD and frequent TDR errors.

It may be that you and your buddies got lucky and got some of the better 7970M cards. When they work properly, they're totally awesome. The GPUs that came out in mid to late Q3 and after seem to have fewer stability issues than those released earlier, but what I read in forums suggests they might be crippled. Although more stable, it seems they don't perform as well and can't handle overclocking compared to the older GPUs that were unstable.

 

There are crossfire issues as well actually. AMD's latest drivers are supposed to fix the problems slowly.