*OFFICIAL* Alienware M18xR1/R2/18 Benchmark Thread - Part 3

I would rather pay those extra 3000 dollars and get a full working laptop with warranty then pay 2200 dollars for just new cards and end up destryoing the hole computer due to possible installation error.

I do like that Clevo does include a dual 330W adapter from the box while Alienware dont think that their laptop needs more then 330W ever...

Answer from Alienware:

Hi André, thank you for being a fan. Newer cards always have better energy management; once we announce something regarding newer cards you will be able to see the power specifications in them. We haven't had any incidents regarding low power supply issues, even on the highest 18" laptop. Good day ahead _FL

 

There is no reason I couldn't do this and it would not be difficult with the new plug-in design. I have enough AC adapters and an extra connector already available. That's actually a good idea, not necessarily because it needs three, but it might balance things out better if one is weaker than the other. I might need a higher capacity bridge rectifier... maybe 50A or 60A instead of 40A, or two 40A.

I spent some time attempting to do some meaningful benching with the Alienware 18 last night and that's simply not going to happen. Now that the CPU is functioning well with A05 and drawing 140W+ the GPU overclocking capacity is further diminished from what it was. Hardly any GPU over-volting causes it to turn itself off abruptly now. Kind of like a robbing Peter to pay Paul thing going on here. Not much point in trying to do any kind of benching with it other than CPU tests because it's not capable of achieving much this way... really disappointing. There's certainly no point in anyone waiting for the release of 880M SLI to buy a new 18 because they won't be able to take advantage of the bump in performance with the power limitations that it has.

Unless Alienware does something to address their relevance as a high performance laptop maker is going to simply vaporize. Once my M18xR2 has reached the end of its usefulness, I might end up abandoning the laptop benching hobby because of this. I am not particularly fond of the idea of switching to Clevo (see list of reasons in previous post). Their machines are not made well, don't look good enough, and I have doubts that I would find owning one to be satisfying like being an Alienware owner has been. I really don't want to spend $4,000 on something that is going to end up cracked and falling apart in a year or so and this is what happens with every plastic laptop I have owned. If Clevo made the P570WM out of aluminum and gave it a smidgen of aesthetic class I might find the idea more compelling.

 

Have you tried using an external screen for the cpu and gpu heavy benchmarks? I know it freed up a few extra watts when I had my M17x R2, 920XM, 6999m cfx combo overclocked and triping the 240w psu

 

The 4930MX dont fit in the R2 right?

and, if we look at normal games (which never are that optimized that they will use 100% on all CPU/GPU cores) will this powerlimitation on the new Aliemware 18 be a problem in real life? Seems that this is just a problem we are gonna see in well optimized benchmark programs.

 

No, totally different socket and chipset. Nor would I want it fit because in all of the benchmark tests that I care about my 3920XM spanks the snot out of the 4930MX. And, mine is performing better and running cooler than most of the other 4930XM as far as I can tell. In 3DMark11 Physics Test, for example, the 4930MX struggles to run higher than 10K and I'm almost hitting 12K with 3920XM at a lower clock speed than 4930MX. That's really sad.

As I have mentioned numerous times, the Alienware 18 is an excellent gaming machine. It handles everything well and I find the way it is built to be very impressive. It only sucks at overclocked benching when the GPUs are needed to achieve good results. I'm not just a gamer and actually find a lot more pleasure in benching than I do gaming in "real life." So, for me and others with the same bug, this is a serious problem and it is incapable of meeting my performance expectations. Other than that, I really love the machine... that is just a very huge caveat for me, though. I wish that were not so because I would be very happy if it at least fully matched the performance of my M18xR2.

I have not tried that. I don't even have any monitors that I can use for that because I never use my M18x sitting on a desk. Plus, my serious benching is done on a portable AC unit in my office closet, LOL. I might have to try that though. I can probably steal the antique 1600x900 LCD from my son's desktop temporarily since he is away at school and will not be around to notice. I should probably buy a nice 3K or 4K monitor sometime, but I really have no practical use for one and it would mostly collect dust sitting in my office.

 

How is that even possible? When it comes to the desktop version of Haswell, it performance better better clock to clock compared to Ivy and Sandy just not that good to overclock as we have seen ealier.

EDIT: Power limitation? The CPU is not getting enought AMP?

Is it the OC on the CPU or GPU's that draws most watt? Im not gonna overclock the CPU (maybe just to 4Ghz) but would like to get the 780M up to 880M clock (yes Im thinking of getting the Alienware 18 4930XM and 780M Sli computer as I got an offer for 3200 dollar for it)

 

My 4930MX draws 140W+ at only 4.3GHz. Overclocked and overvolted 780M draws at least that much or more. GPU overclocking is the biggest problem on the Alienware 18 because it does not have the power handling capabilities required to get the job done. You won't get the 780M or 880M cards anywhere even remotely close to the overclock levels you are seeing me and John doing with the M18xR2. You might with just one GPU, but not with SLI. It will simply turn itself off with a minor over-volt.

Haswell quality is hit or miss. Being more efficient clock-for-clock does not mean anything if you get a weak chip that cannot overclock well enough to keep up with an Ivy Bridge. A Haswell that barely runs 4.0GHz well isn't going to compete with an Ivy Bridge running 4.5GHz or higher. Now, if you get a good Haswell chip they are excellent. But it seems like a lot of them are not very good, unfortunately. Just look here in our forums. Some guys struggle to get their machine stable at 4.0GHz and I can run mine at 4.5-4.7GHz without a problem. Using identical settings does not work. Some of them are junk... seems like a lot of them might be junk. On top of getting lucky, Haswell runs asinine hot... crazy hot. You must keep it cool to realize a benefit if you have a good chip or it's going to shut itself down or throttle really bad. So far the only way to tame the 4930MX in an Alienware 18 is using Liquid Ultra. That helped me a TON.

 

After following Brother Fox's Ramdisk/Cache guide I thought I'd just post this here. Thanks buddy.

 

LOL always fun seeing some crazy numbers:thumbsup:

 

Mr Fox, I would like to ask something about a subject that's puzzling me. I'm new to overclocking and have done some experiments on my two computers (moderate OC). I have gotten different score results with 3DMark11 and 3DMark Fire Strike benchmarks with exactly the same OC configuration. The results sometimes have a variation of + - 2% to 4%. This happens with both the AW 18 and with my desktop. It is common to expect that kind of results?

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for alienware weight it will probably crack but thats only if you dont take care of it. my Asus g74sx is almost 3 years old now and cosmetic wise still look really new, and it is made of plastic and only a tad bit lighter than my m18x, and m18x are external metal.

Clevo will do fine as long as it's treated with care. I will not turn it down just because its not made of metal though but metal is definitely a plus. everything aside, a 17.3 inch sucks compared to 18.4 hopefully that can be adjustable.

mr fox would you not go for clevo even when theres an octa core coming this year, and a 14nm octa core next year rated at possibly only 110w TDP? I'd kill to get my hand on one of those and throw it in the laptop, if doable.


aside from your plastic chassis reason, I'd like to add crappy sound system but seriously if anyone wanted better audio, just get external sound system or use 7.1 headset. can't really blast that music out loud most of the time anyway.

Bios looking pretty good, prema is doing great job on this, although no BCLK though a small negative. they still got cstate on/off, adjustable current/voltage etc imo it's great compare to what it was before. Dell AW had to go through the same thing, without bios mod its all a joke compared to desktops.

warranty wise it's something people will have to sacrifice in exchange for performance. THIS is the only laptop on the planet with hexa core and octa core with a superior chipset in mobile device. a GREAT CPU heatsink, and great GPU heatsink too.

 

Yes this is 100% normal
As for why this happens, I couldn't tell you for sure

 

Kenny is right... this is totally normal. 2-4% variance is well within the margin of error between runs. A lot of things can cause this. Minor temperature variances, fluctuations in power supply, fluctuation in voltage regulators... probably a very long list of contributors to the variation. When you look at fantastic benchmark scores posted in this thread also realize that those are a snapshot of the highest result of many different runs, often with a variety of different tweaks, a few lock-ups and BSOD now and then, and you are only seeing the highest example of that series of runs being posted. You don't get the same score every time very often. It does happen now and then, but mostly with less aggressive overclocks. It rarely ever occurs when the machine is running right on the ragged edge of stability.

As Brother Johnksss has pointed out several times, don't simply look at the overall score. While that is really important when chasing numbers, also look at the graphics and physics scores, as well as the FPS results from the individual tests that are being displayed. You can look at this detail in the leader board on page #1 also. This will help you evaluate how your machine is comparing to others with a higher score. When you see this you will notice that what seems to be a large difference in overall score might be a really small difference, sometimes 1 FPS or less. Or, you could have a fantastic graphics score and find the physics score is low and that is holding back the entire systems from achieving a good score. At that point you would stop stressing out over GPU performance and focus on what needs to happen to address the CPU performance, or vice versa.

The feedback I am getting from P570WM owners (one former owner, one current owner and a person that just repaired one owned by someone else) is not very encouraging. I absolutely would love to have a beastly laptop with a desktop 6 or 8 core K or X series CPU and corresponding benchmarks numbers to drool over, but I do find aesthetics and built quality, as well as good service, to be pretty compelling traits as well. All of those things are why I am an Alienware fan.

If you ask svl7 what he thinks of the Clevo BIOS, it will not be very positive. I really trust his opinion on that sort of thing and if he sees it as being rather untidy it probably is. Yes, Prema has absolutely done real wonders for it and he is due megatons of recognition for the progress he has made on correcting defects in the design. I'm not sure that it qualifies as a good BIOS as much as finally being tweaked enough to be usable for the first time thanks to Prema. It seems like it was a tough job to make it usable and he has done marvelously in making the best of a bad situation. At least this is my impression of that situation.

I am very interested in handling a P570WM to form my own opinion about it, but not sure I am willing to use my own bank account and make any kind financial commitment for that sort of experiment. I don't handle disappointments as gracefully as I would like to when it involves lots of money. It's unlikely that I will receive a complimentary trial unit for review, so I might not find out first hand... at least not in the immediate future. If I win the lottery will definitely buy one for each of us. (Don't get too excited yet, because I don't buy lottery tickets, LOL.) If I had a surplus of discretionary funds to use this way you would already see me benching the crap out of one.

For now, Johnksss and I own two of the fastest and most powerful laptops on the planet with a mobile CPU. That's pretty satisfying. What I do next may be decided by Alienware. If they release another 18 with the kind of performance limitations the current machine has then it's probably going to be the end of the line for me. At that point I'll likely either settle for a P570WM or keep my aging M18xR2 for fun on the road and build the baddest monster desktop I can for $4,500 to $5,000. They certainly deserve another chance to get it right before I give up. They have been a truly fantastic company for me as a customer. The 18 is a excellent machine in almost every way, but missed the mark on extreme performance. I recognize that literally everything is new and redesigned, they were working with a Haswell CPU abortion, so I do cut them a little slack on the performance deficit. They did not miss the mark on building a super-duper gaming rig... only the extreme performance capacity is messed up. Let's see what happens with the next 18" Alienware beast.

 

OK, thanks kenny27 and Mr Fox by clarifications. Now I feel more comfortable with the results.
I noticed that the ambient temperature has a direct influence on bench scores. I also realized that sometimes a new version of the graphics driver does not have as good performance as the previous one. But, as a rule, I like to keep these things always updated.

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So, what scores are you getting?

 

Not always a good idea to have the latest drivers, especially if you have SLI and play some older games. For example, I found that Red Faction Armageddon is extremely finnicky with SLI, and so far only 1 out of 6 drivers I tested worked properly. All other versions either caused flickering or artifacts.

 

Same applies to benching. Some drivers do very poorly with benching and provide very smooth gameplay. You have to test and use trial and error to see what works best. Our old friend BatBoy used to always say "the latest isn't always the greatest" regarding drivers and this is very true.

 

Glad I'm not having problems with the games I'm currently playing with the latest version of nvidia drivers. Two of them are older: Battlefield Bad Company 2 and Crysis I. COD Ghosts have a bad game experience but it's because the game engine has many known problems. You have to disable some things in graphics advanced setting to have a smooth game play.

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In fact, as I am still learning the art of overclocking, I do not have the results saved as most of you do. Even if I had the scores I would be ashamed to show, because here only see results that leave me drooling.
I know my computers (especially my desktop) has the potential to achieve much more than I'm doing, but the problem is me.

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Hey bro, never be ashamed of scores. Life is too short to stress out over it. If you are like most people that work for a company your performance gets measured and evaluated at least 5 days a week and don't need that here. This is all for fun and it's all a learning experience, and nobody is going to criticize you for not being a pro at something new. I did not know anything about overclocking or benching when I first started and neither did anyone else. Feel free to ask questions about how to do things and there will be a lot of people willing to give tips and help. I learned from Master Johnksss. He and I both help, TBoneSan is really sharp, and so are many others. We have some relatively new visitors to the thread that are also knowledgeable and bring new insights. I learned some new tricks from Brother scracy just the other day. We are all born as noobs at everything. The problem is not you unless you don't ask questions, then it is all on you.

On a similar note, I really wish more 7970M CrossFire, 765M SLI and 770M SLI owners were benching. I think sometimes people feel like what they have is not good enough, but we like seeing people push their beasts no matter what kind of CPU or GPU they have because we get to see what each product is capable of, and as long as they have fun doing it and learn new things, it's all good. When they don't try then nobody knows what it can do. We don't expect less expensive hardware to perform the same, but it's still nice to see what it can do. Without participation, we end up having to trust somewhat unreliable sources of information like notebookcheck.com and professional reviewers to give accurate information, but it is often not very accurate.

 

Oh, thank you very much Mr Fox, your words really makes me more comfortable. It is easy to see that everyone here is very supportive in sharing their experiences, their problems, give solutions, all without distinction.
To improve faster in overclocking, I still need to devote more time to my experiences. I have to share my free time with games, benchs and my wife lol. You know, sometimes my wife is jealous of my machines, then things get bad. She is an angel, I can not complain and deserves attention.
Every time I build a new desktop or change my laptop, I have to hear a lot of complaining. Thanks GOD she never dream on how much money I spent on these toys, otherwise I lose my eggs . The problem is the import taxes here are very high. Last year I spent U$8,000 with the desktop and earlier this year U$6.700 on my AW18. These things give me so great pleasure that compensates all the rest.
Late last year I had in my hands a brand new M18X R2 (3940XM, GTX 780M SLI, 256GB Samsung 840 EVO RAID 0, Killer Wireless and BD drive) but unfortunately, it was faulty. The Mobo and hard-drive interposer was replaced, but didn’t work. The machine did not run in 6GB/s in ports 2 and 3 and Bluetooth sometimes used to work, sometimes not. Then the seller offered me this AW18 I have with the full top specs. I confess you I appreciate more the design of the M18X, but I'm proud to have a AW18 :thumbsup:. For me is the best laptop on the planet in every way. When DELL decides to unlock the BIOS no one holds the beast.

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I really should get into benching my 7970m cfx LOL. now I look around I might have gotten lucky with my cards, thats two cards in 1 try unlike my CPU which I went through 7-8 chips to get a pretty decent one. i'd do it, if not for two full time job and this will last for the next 3 months..

another down side to clevo is, for me and rest of "do it ourselves" type, there aren't that many parts and hard to get them. try looking on ebay and thats a no go, if something breaks its really difficult to fix it. I find iGPU not big of a deal cause you really have to have two cards going bad to not be able to boot though.

on AW topic I think it will only go down that road mr fox. maybe AW18 got its reason it doesn't power its CPU like its suppose to because they dont want people to find out about not having enough juice with single PSU LOL. well, they got lucky with next gen maxwell and broadwell but that won't happen for maybe 1 more year so who knows.

I don't want to think m18xR2 will be my last machine from dell. I look forward to maxwell + broadwell in their new revision, more battery life, more powerful cpu/gpu, runs cooler MAYBE can clock it higher and I still want to mod it for extra storage. but locked down bios? oh man what a let down.

 

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the Clevo parts thing. They are really tough to come by. Probably because they are a really small company in comparison and not many spare parts floating around for sale. Great point on that, because that was one of the things I looked at when I was still thinking more seriously about a P570WM... found hardly anything for sale.

I hear rumors that desktop BIOS might have similar bad things start happening in the near future, too. I hope that is wrong. I don't want BIOS security... period. I don't care if there is some vague and nebulous or "potential" risk to it being open to hacking, rootkits and other exploits. Just leave it alone already, LOL. Or, give the end users the option to choose the kind of BIOS they want.

 

;lets put it this way, i am lucky to be m18x R2 owner. I just did a cpu bench and my room temp is ~17C to 18C, at 4.7ghz. I stayed under 86C for 15 mins xtu test with ic diamond and heatsink mod. my cpu is being held back by my ram. I need 2133 or higher ram speed lol. this is something AW 18 won't have, for awhile at least until I can get my hand on one.

I also been looking for clevo parts, can't seem to find any and those online reseller for parts don't have clevo parts as well so I say we really need meakers and other reseller's input on this. my original mod was gonna be using clevo heatsink and cut it off in the end I went for DIY copper pipes off aliexpress and g74sx heatsink lol

 

Clevo parts you can try RJTech, and eBay is actually not a bad option as long as you go with trustworthy sellers.

 

What is your heat sink mod, Brother unityole?

 

Pics and maybe tutorial please!

 

Slide show or video welcomed here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...8x-owners-how-instructional-video-thread.html

If you're in a hurry and don't have much time, I'll settle for a PowerPoint, LOL.

 

You're lucky Unitoyle, I can't seem to get 4.7 Ghz. It annoys me. I've tried everything I'm pretty sure but I always BSOD no matter how much flex I punch in.

 

varies by mobo and cpu. if you're OC bclk too then it includes a lot more, like ram, pcie devices and pcie in general. i went through several CPUs and like 3 mobos but in span of like 1.5-2 years. I have mine at 45x or 46x and 102.8 bclk to get 4.6/4.7. I can only go to 105 bclk without my pcie storage mod, it seems my msata SSD doesn't like it. lol anymore multiplier beyond that its too hot for me even with heatsink mod, and fan will have to be maxed.

without super intensive cpu benching/ video rendering I average peak 81C for few seconds in daily use and average around 77C, fan speed system auto.

to simplify I took a g74sx heatsink and cut off the cpu side connect that side to triple piped heatsink and the other side to secondary GPU heatsink. also solder extra diy copper pipes for laptop. also have to mod the palm rest piece a bit to make it fit, something you would see similar to asetek water cooling thing cause their water cooling system is bigger. two fans, two radiator to cool cpu, clevo's thing.

 

I'd like to see that in photos. There is not much extra space for fitting that extra stuff, so it would be interesting to look at how you did it. Sounds like you put a lot of thought and effort into the mod. You've done some pretty interesting mods between that and all of the internal drive mods. +1 rep.

 

Yes. Im in agreement. Quit being stingy with your heat sink mod!
Share the wealth!


New 3dmark FS run
Single GPU run
7224 and current gpu record holder.
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1900248

 

I imagine they are simply adding more copper to the heat-sinks somehow. I was thinking about this last night, could you simply wrap copper wire tightly around the existing heat-sinks to do that?

 

That's the problem. We DON'T want to imagine when the maker is right here.

 

right now my mod is wasted without faster memory cpu cant take advantage of it so i am just goign to order another two sets of 2133 from newegg this time cause ramexpert lost it. I was planning to take it apart and take pictures when my memory arrive so i have to wait again. wei score not going up cause ram is limiting how my machine performs which sucks, 1866 is not enough anymore and my hope was on cl10 at 2133 like mr fox.

toughest part for heatsink mod was to make 2ndary gpu heatsink bent slightly downward 1/3 from the radiator so it can fit 1 more piece of copper between radiator and palmrest piece. I spent around 100 dollars on a chassis, broken mobo and a broken GPU card so I can mount CPU + GPU heatsink so they don't move around so I can solder properly. cut off cpu end for G74sx heatsink and shim like area goes above triple pipe and I just throw in a few solder wire pieces to cover as much gap as possible and reduce air holes and use hotair gun to melt them in between heatsinks.

just flat to flat surface isn't enough imo and soldering it will only change tiny bit which is the reason we use thermal paste. I think i did a pretty good job on connecting coppers.

CPU heatsink can add 1 more copper pipe on the radiator but cooling overall is radiator area to fan limited so adding copper will only increase overhead amount of heat it holds before it heats up to the same temperature. extra copper pipe on the cpu heatsink only goes 2/3 way it is cut off by the right LCD hinge if you're facing the screen.

also added copper had to be flatten more because palmrest piece is really thin and yes my keyboard does feel hotter I had to put some sticker in between copper/keyboard so heat doesn't go to random places in the machine. without modding palm rest piece or flatten extra added copper system will not reassemble or fit.


storage mod is just wifi pcie slot used for a pcie to sata bridge card to get extra 1-2 sata slots. it is pcie 2.0 so rougly 400MB/s max. DMC slot was used for usb wifi module connect to antenna to still have wifi internet.

 

OK, well I hope you get the RAM soon. When it arrives and you have it apart, please take some good photos of the heat sink mod for use. Maybe do a nice little tutorial. Thanks, Brother unityole.

 

yea will do. having nice ghz feels awesome and I was going to take it apart just for liquid ultra but didn't do it. if alienware was quad channel ram then my cpu can actually take full advantage of it.

 

My triple pipe heatsink has arrived now just waiting for the 3720xm to land.

 

some extras
tin lead silver 60% 38% 1% heat capacity .167 conductivity 50
copper heatsink is heat capacit.39 and speed at 401

my solder is only tin lead at 63/37 which is most commonly used in board soldering so shouldnt be much different from SnPbAg so it actually gets rid of heat to copper faster than copper, but just conduct at a speed of 50 but its still multiple times better than most thermal paste which usually rated at 10-12.

 

Here is a run with one 780M on the Alienware 18. GPU at 1125/1500 @ 1.150V hits 93°C and GPU thermal throttles down to 550MHz. Will need to try Liquid Ultra on the 18 video cards now.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4930MX,Alienware 01W2J2

With the CPU at 4.5GHz and GPU clocked as noted above, my Kill-A-Watt meter is showing a power draw of 325W with SLI disabled. The CPU hit 127W on this run per HWiNFO64.

 

Got my extra 16GB of 2133 in from RamExperts. 4 sticks run at 2T instead of 1T, but it's still really fast.



Here's a quickie with some awesome Physics and Combined scores...

 

My best result.

 

Nice score there Well done :thumbsup:

 

Good job. Do you have a larger image available so we can read the fine print, or a link to the online results? That one is too small to read. What CPU and GPU clock speeds are you running?

 

The CPU is in his specs, 4930MX. GPU clock speed seems to be 1100MHz, CPU seems to be at 4.2GHz. It's a Sager NP9380, so he might be running dual adapter. Most (maybe all) sellers of Clevo notebooks provide the dual adapter box as a configuration option.

 

It doesn't seem to help much having the dual AC adapter on the Clevo for some reason. He might be able to push the GPUs a little harder, but so far he has not. Results are similar to the 18 with a single AC adapter. He has the highest recorded Clevo 3DMark11 score with 4930MX (P 15732), which is only a couple hundred points less than my Alienware 18. Search Results: 3DMark11 ranking

Compare Sager NP9380-S versus Alienware 18

Looks like the 4930MX is just a bad option no matter where you install one. Maybe nobody knows how to build a motherboard that correctly supports the CPU.

 

sorry.
I edited now

 

result maximum possible


I fully agree.
the only thing I have left to do is apply the liquid ultra and see what happens.
because I see that the CPU can not push more than 4.1ghz.

 

Dear friend I am running with only one source.
I've tested with 2 and not changed at all since the limitation is the breakdown of this model.
The results were the same.
Unfortunately there is what will do but see what happens using the ultra liquid.

 

For a 4930MX that's a good result. I see that you have the second highest result, so that's really good for the platform. With a little tweaking and patience you can probably match or beat my score with 18, but you definitely need some Liquid Ultra so you can push the CPU harder.

If the dual AC adapter does not work on the Clevo/Sager Np9380-S just like it does not on the Alienware 18, then I find myself wondering if something in Intel specs has caused Alienware and Clevo to do implement a power regulator or something that ultimately gimps the 4930MX. If so, this could explain why 4900MQ is doing better, because XM CPU always demand more power than the Q CPU models. If you don't give any system all of the power that it needs, then it cannot perform well.

Using a single AC adapter, this is what the M18xR2 does with 780M SLI using 1.081V @ 1072/1500. This is with the CPU running 2.8GHz until the Physics and Combined Tests, at which point it is goosed up to 4.6GHz. Doing this keeps the single 330W AC adapter from becoming overly taxed and unstable during Tests 1 through 4.