*OFFICIAL* Alienware M18xR1/R2/18 Benchmark Thread - Part 3

Mr. Cloudfire is very enthusiastic about Maxwell GPU.

The GTX 750 Ti has almost 2x the efficiency of the Kepler GPU. I am not entirely convinced that it will scale 2x efficiency all the way to the top end SKUs, but it will be quite a bit more efficient than current Kepler GPUs anyway. If Maxwell is as good as they say it now, then 330W PSU might still be sufficient, provided the fact that Intel fixes whatever design issues they had with Haswell.

It's not just Dell, it's the OEM. If you are really rich, you can probably ask someone out there to make you a 600W PSU. Having higher power PSU is good, but another thing that most people don't mention, is the need for Dell to beef up all the power delivery components on the mainboard, for the CPU and the GPUs.

 

Personal best of 16112. Yahoooo! I didn't think I had more in it on a single PSU. Boy was I wrong.



Feel free to update the leader board's

 

Nice job!

3DMARK11

#	USER	VER	CPU	CARD	LINK	SCORE	GPU	PHYSICS	COMBINED	GT1 FPS	GT2 FPS	GT3 FPS	GT4 FPS	PT FPS	CT FPS	CLOCKS
1	MR FOX	R2	3920XM	780M	LINK	P17197	20917	11779	10464	97.84	96.91	128.64	63.82	37.40	48.67	1125/1500
2	NORTHSTAR	R2	3940XM	780M	LINK	P16564	19921	11624	10185	93.01	91.96	122.54	61.00	36.90	47.37	1086/1500
3	TBONESAN	R2	3920XM	780M	LINK	P16112	19270	11470	9934	90.10	89.60	118.70	58.60	36.40	46.20	1040/1440
4	MR FOX	R3	4930MX	780M	LINK	P15993	19395	10824	10004	93.07	91.37	118.71	57.73	34.46	46.53	1111/1500
5	MR FOX	R2	3920XM	680M	LINK	P15413	17892	11987	9581	84.82	84.11	109.87	53.65	38.03	44.56	1130/1168

 

Hey Great score Mr.TboneSan!

 

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3920XM Processor Extreme Edition,Alienware M18xR2

 

Mr. Fox can we add some more benchmarks to the list ie: XTU,PcMark7,Cinebench R11.5 to name a few?

 

Hey guys! My first shot at benchmarking. Didn't mess with XTU yet on my 4900, but I flashed slv7's 780m vbios and pushed it 180/400 on 1v. What do you guys think?

 

Great GPU score! Physics score is ok, what Ghz is that processor? I'm unfamiliar with it. Here's my recent best for comparison:

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3920XM Processor Extreme Edition,Alienware M18xR2

 

Thanks! The i7-4900MQ is 2.8GHz stock and 3.8ghz max turbo stock on a single core. I don't have any experience with XTU though, so any advice you have I would appreciate it.

 

we need one of this man IDF - Hot Gaming Notebooks Get Air Conditioning - Legit ReviewsEmbraco Brings Refrigeration To Gamings Notebooks

too bad these super gadgets in which people think is pointless and overkill is just what we need. this and also the asetek water cooling module in m18x never got it to start..

 

Hey joseph0042 i have same cpu as you try these XTU settings and see how you go

 

Those scores are mind blowing..amazing .



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Do we have a modes bios for GTX 675 ..

Anyone

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Hadn't run this one for a long time. Scored 1st place for 3920XM and 16th place globally on HWBOT.

Discrete Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3920XM Processor Extreme Edition,Alienware M18xR2 ​

Integrated Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 4000 Mobile video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3920XM Processor Extreme Edition,Alienware M18xR2​

 

Great job brother Fox!

 

Nice job Mr Fox does that mean we can add PCMark7 and XTU to the list?

 

No adding to the list at this time till we actually get more people wanting to bench.

 

Thanks! I had a little help from a friend. My best score before was like 6800 PCMarks.

I forgot to reply to your earlier post, but what John said is what I was going to suggest. We already have an empty leader board as it is now. It's kind of sad how much money is sitting in the hands of people with M18xR1/R2/18 that are not benching and learning how to make their machines howl like an alien monster.

So that you can keep track of your scores, choose one of your posts for cumulative benchmarks and keep adding all of your best scores to the same post. See the links in my signature as examples. You can post them in a new post so people see them, but once you have, click the link in your signature and add the screen shots and links there, too. Then if John decides to add more benchmarks he can always link to the same post for the leaderboard. That makes it much easier for John to manage the leader board with one link for all of your stuff and easier for you with that link in your signature as a point of reference. It's nice for other folks that click the link in your signature as well.

Check with Brother SVL7 as he probably either has one ready to download or he can do one for you. I don't know what thread (if any) Fermi vBIOS are housed in. I recently looked and cannot find it. I only have GTX 580M vBIOS files.

 

Help from a friend you say Mr Fox....i like friends!:smile:

 

Yessir... thanks for the tips on PCMark7

Now I am wondering if I shouldn't grab another 16GB of Vengeance 2133 so I can have more than enough to go around. These volumes are both cached with RAM disks and there is a 2GB virtual SCSI RAM disk for temp files. When many benchmarks run they put files in the system temp folder. But, I think 2GB for temp files is going to be too small. The nice thing about this is the virtual drive disappears at reboot, so there are no "old" temp files... ever. The down side is that when installing some programs the temp files need to be there for the installation to complete after a reboot, so I will need to remember to temporarily disable that when installing software.

 

i have got 14gb of ram disk.. still waiting for my two sets of 2x8 to arrive. looks like its lost in transit man its been over 1.5 months now

 

Thanks for the recommendation. It won't allow me to edit the Turbo Boost Power Max to 150W. Keeps saying it can't. But I also have another button you don't from your settings, "Package Turbo Power Lock". Should this be Disabled?

Edit: I just read on Mr. Fox's Tech Inferno post that the Package Turbo Power Lock feature is due to the new A05 BIOS update.

 

I discovered that if you have the "Package Turbo Power Lock" set to enabled it will cap the sliders in XTU and grey out the Package Power Limit fields in XTU. It will be capped at whatever you have your Turbo Boost Power Max and Short Power Max set to in the BIOS. If you click "Disable" for that, reboot and the option will disappear in XTU and the settings will be unlocked.

This BIOS is definitely an improvement. It's not everything we want, but having the default Processor Current Limit set to 190.000A instead of 55.000A is absolutely a step in the right direction. It was a pain in the bottom having to set that manually all the time with XTU or ThrottleStop.

I am seeing slightly better XTU benchmarks, too. CPU hits 140W without much effort and temps are still managed with Liquid Ultra paste. The CPU still turns lower Physics scores in 3DMark11 than my 3920XM, but overall there is good reason to be happy because the BIOS is better than it was before. I still need to check to see if Secure Flash was removed. I have to go find svl7's tool in the A04 thread at T|I and find out. Will do that sometime today. Not going to hold my breath on that, but hope springs eternal, LOL.

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Here is a 3DMark11 Physics Test. Note the good temps with Liquid Ultra. This is not as good as 3920XM (over 11K at this speed) but it is about 200~ 3DMarks higher than it would do with A04 at the same clock speeds. So, moving in the right direction.

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Updated with tweaked XTU. Now to see if I can push the GPU's more with/without added voltage (Only at 1v right now for +180/400)



Edit: Figured I would throw in an a XTU benchmark as well lol...

 

Yes, A05 definitely helped...

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4930MX,Alienware 01W2J2

PCMark7 Hall of Fame | HWBOT

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Now, if the 3920/3940 had this much extra..... It would hit 5.3/5.4 ghz under the right conditions.

 

double post...

Filler

 

I say Mr Fox that new A05 Bios seems to work rather well (he exclaims in his best British accent):thumbsup:

 

In Australia summer is coming to an end so I am starting to think about bench-marking again
So far I have a triple pipe heat-sink on the shopping list but I am trying to figure out which cpu I should be investing in. Obviously an OEM 3920xm is the best but... due to limited funds I'm happy to consider a 2920xm or a 3720qm QBC1 (unlocked)
So the question is how much better is an overclocked 3920 compared to an overclocked 2920 and can the unlocked 3720 keep up
Can you still modify the TDC and TDP on the 3720?
I'm thinking the 3720 is the best option as far as price to performance is concerned but I'm just not sure

 

Dont let summer stop you :hi2:im an ozzy too!!!! Im kinda wondering what i could do with 4930MX......Mmmmm....thinking:yes:

 

haha summer is bit of an issue for me as I live in an caravan with no air conditioning

 

Mr. scracy, if you ever decide to splurge on the 4930MX, I'll buy that 4900MQ from you (f the price is right ) -- 4930MX performance for less than half the price = :thumbsup:

I need as many MHz as I can squeeze for FSX, apparently when Micro$lop coded the d@mn thing they figured we'd soon see 10 GHz+ single core CPUs LOL. What a joke. I don't remember exactly now but I think the 10 GHz figure was given as what it would take to run the thing with every setting on max, especially traffic density. It's one of the few games out there that is completely CPU limited, and all because of terrible coding. What a joke. Although I do wonder how AMD's FX chips would perform with that game, given that they OC like no tomorrow and apparently FSX likes those hertz more than anything else...

 

When i find a job then i will seriously think about it...:thumbsup: i think i could squeeze 4.7Ghz without too much trouble....thought i would have a go with HWBOT Rookie Rumble 3 http://hwbot.org/competition/rookie_rumble_3/stage/1274_xtu/

 

So the new Alienware 18 is really a performance drawback?

 

Yes, it has a tough time keeping up because the R2 is such a beast. You haven't been visiting this thread much, LOL. In most things the M18xR2 with a 3920XM or 3940XM and 680M SLI outperforms it... The 18 is a really super nice gamer's machine, but it has some power handling limitations that are holding it back from achieving equal greatness when it comes to more than gaming. If you only bench the CPU and leave the GPUs stock or switch to IGFX the 4930MX runs really well. When the CPU and GPUs start fighting over a small pool of available power resources it's not happy-happy joy-joy moment for either one of them.

 

So is the 3720qm QBC1 worth getting compared to the 2920xm?

 

Hi Kenny. If you get a good one it will be very similar to 2920XM, but it's hit or miss on QS and ES CPU quality. There is no true substitute for an OEM XM CPU in most cases. If you are fortunate and get a good one, yes it is worth it. If you do not it will not be worth it. If you are mostly just looking for a performance bump rather than competing for benchmark scores, then I say it will be worth it.

 

Thanks Mr. Fox, I had a 920xm ES which was competitive with DR650SE's OEM 920xm. Guess that was a good one!
Yeh not looking to break any records just a performance boost and some fun

 

I'd probably stear clear of ES/QS. I have a 3920xm QS which needed a ton more flex than an OEM CPU.

 

Yeah, been some time since I checked this forum after the 18 came out. I did order the 4930XM with 780M SLi as I had SLi problem with my current R2 but I cancelled the order due to what you wrote. Im looking into getting 880M SLi on my current R2 (if I can confirm that its just a SLi bridge problem) and try and do your Dual 330W adapter setup or just look how the next Alienware with 880M SLi is.

Or just go over to Clevo P570WM as they already come with a duel 330W adapter setup.

 

Just build your own dual AC adapter setup. That will save you about $3700 if you are not simply wanting it for number chasing. You would still need to buy GPUs, but the Clevo's dual AC adapter setup shouldn't be a major deciding factor if you already own an M18xR2. The only compelling feature that it has to offer is a more powerful CPU.

The Clevo P570WM is very powerful. I kind of want one and kind of do not. It's really nearly worthless for anything except benching and moderate travel. Bulk and weight are not the issue since I don't think the M18xR1/R2 is too big or too heavy. Construction is what has me most concerned. It is no secret that I love benching, so I am torn. The benchmark scores are very alluring. The things that are holding me back are:

• Unattractive "Box" Design
• Plastic Chassis (durability concerns for heavy travel use... plastic chassis laptops don't hold up well for me)
• No Switchable Graphics (i.e. horrible battery life if/when needed, so not well suited for business travel)
• No GPU Flash Failure Recovery (an M18xR1/R2 exclusive for laptops, requires IGFX and unlocked BIOS)
• Clevo Support and Warranty Service (no in-home or parts-only dispatch, depot only, slow turn-around... overall pales in comparison to Dell/Alienware support and warranty)
• Crappy BIOS Design (talk to svl7 if you want to know more)

It's a reasonable DTR if you want to be closer to desktop performance in something completely portable. For the same price you can build a desktop with the same chipset, same CPU, more capable video cards and PSU. I kind of see it as falling in the niche between the M18xR2 and a full-fledged desktop. That part attracts me because I love powerful desktops and laptops, but I hate the idea of being tethered to a desk to use a desktop. Feedback from a former M17xR3 and M18xR2 owner is that it's a powerful beast, but not anywhere near the product quality expected as a long-term Alienware owner. I don't want to make a $4,000 mistake on something that cannot be returned due to buyer's remorse. You can do that with an Alienware, but as far as I know Clevo resellers do not accept returns on a product that you decide that you "don't like" after the sale.

 

^I'm pretty certain at least one of the resellers had a 30 day no questions asked return policy, although there was a 15% or 20% restocking fee. Although this was back in October (when I first joined NBR) so things may certainly have changed.

If that's something you can live with ($800 instead of $4000 mistake lol), I say hit up the resellers and see what they can do.

 

Nope, I am not going to torch $800. A guy would be better off selling it on eBay for a $300-$500 loss, but even that's a lot of money to risk on the unknown. I want an time-limited unconditional return policy if I am not satisfied with the product quality like Dell/Alienware offers... 2 weeks is enough time to decide if it's good enough to keep and that's what you get with an Alienware.

So, what I would like is to get my hands on one for a week or two and then decide if it's good enough. I already know the benchmarks are awesome, just need to reconcile those other concerns that I posted. Brother Harlon is selling his Sager and switching to desktop if anyone is looking for a good deal on a P570WM with 4930K, 780M SLI and SSD RAID0. He isn't really satisfied with the product quality or the lackluster support. I believe Clevorr came back to Alienware as well. It's hard to settle for less when you're used to having cake and eating it, too.

 

Thanks for your input Fox. I already knew some of these concern and some I didn't, kinda made me look away fom the Clevo. My alienware computes survives around 150-200 traveling days a year in helicopters and speedboats (= alot of vibrations) and if I get a problem, the DELL support is well worth it!

Does the 880M fit the M18x R2?

 

Yes it sure does. Did you not see Bother Johnksss's thread in the main Alienware forum? He has already tested it for us and did an awesome product review based on his testing.

Here is a link to it for you: http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware/746259-my-nvidia-gtx-880m-test-run-review.html

 

Yeah, I did see this but I didnt see the test rig setup

Problem is that these are 1100 dollars each, meaning its just a fart away from a brand new computer.

 

They'll come down in price soon enough

 

Depending on how you look at it, that's not really accurate. Yes, $2,200 is a lot of money and maybe "too much" for some. This is still a TON cheaper than a new $4000-$5000 Alienware... not to mention that upgrading an M18xR2 gives you a more potent system with more features than the $4000-$5000 new machine will deliver. You cannot buy a laptop beast for that price that will compare with the performance the $2,200 upgrade would deliver.

Time is always on your side when it comes to prices as long as you do not procrastinate until the opportunity is come and gone. The trouble with waiting too long is technology keeps changing and one could wait a lifetime for the latest and greatest and never have it.

 

Good news Mr. Fox, seems like XoticPC has a 30 day full refund minus shipping policy, see quote below:

Since XoticPC offers free shipping right now, the potential loss might be as little as return shipping, which could be as low as $60 something by UPS ground (even cheaper if going USPS).

I think you should seriously consider the idea of buying a P570WM, spend 2 weeks benchmarking/using it and write a detailed review. If nothing else I think everyone would love to see what you could do with the P570WM (think of the scores...).

 

^^not ready to do it at this time... i received some feedback from a friend earlier this week that owns a P570WM and I might not even go down that road at all based on his opinions.

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Here's a new personal best on wPrime 1024M - 158.573 sec



...a wPrime 32M personal second best run... 5.089 sec


A really good (but not personal best) Aquamark3 run...


And, a decent 3DMark11 run (not personal best)... with an excellent CPU score.


I cannot OC GPU any higher than 1125/1500 with CPU @ 4.8GHz due to lack of power with dual AC adapter. I have to lower the CPU to 4.7GHz overclock to increase the GPU beyond that point or it's tripping the breaker one of my new AC adapters on the dual adapter setup. I marked the one that keeps tripping at this point and will experiment with the other two I have. I hope that one is just a bit weak rather than the dual AC adapter reaching its functional capacity.

 

When is the triple AC adapter mod coming?