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    *OFFICIAL* Alienware M18xR1/R2/18 Benchmark Thread - Part 3

    Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by Mr. Fox, Aug 31, 2013.

  1. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

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    Are those water blocks? Weird looking. What GPUs are they connected to? Did they have the rest of the pieces needed to make it functional? I wonder if those are pieces to the Asetek water cooling system for the M18x prototype that was never released? Kind of looks that way, but they are not made exactly the same as they look in the video. There is no channel for the liquid pipes.

    [​IMG]
    Asetek Demonstrates Liquid Cooling For Laptop And All-In-One PCs
     
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    Haha... The lost treasure.. The holy grail!
    Imagine that!
     
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    i think you guys are desperately waiting for p870dm right with 990m sli+6700k+TB3 and dual psu (hopefully) any idea about its barebone so i can slowly build ?
     
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    Wait a couple more months. ;)
     
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    @Mr. Fox @Kpaxx any chance you fellas could post a stock 980m sli score for 3DMark11 and Firestrike from your Clevo machines. I'm just trying to gauge what a perfectly running (non-throttling) 980m sli setup should be scoring, I'm getting about 18.5K-19K GPU score but gpu core usage dips as low as 75% in the first test (stays above 90% in the second). Not sure if this is due to poor sli scaling or some kind of throttle. Thanks.
     
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    [​IMG]
    Single 330W AC adapter, CPU 4.5GHz, GPUs @ 1006/1500, benched with the beast on my lap while watching TV in my recliner... ;)
    6085.png 6085-1.png
    @D2 Ultima - more incendiary evidence for the laptop-hating trolls you deal with. Compare with the 5820K desktop with single GTX 980 (see spoiler content).
     
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    I didn't see this post. I will do it for you maybe today or tomorrow if you still want me to.
     
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    Yeh if you could, that would be excellent
     
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    Sorry you had to wait so long, Brother @kenny27. Here you go man... no GPU overclock.

    980M-SLI-Stock.JPG
     

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    Thanks @Mr. Fox , I'm around around 24.8K gpu score with 353.00, was going to test the newer drivers to see if that would make any difference but 3Dmark11 crashes just before the cpu loading screen (lost control of the keyboard or something).... at this time of the night I'm happy to put the 400 points to the newer drivers :D

    Your cpu and quad channel ram crush the physics and combined test!!
     
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    @ssj92 - nice!

    ¡También, no mas Area-51! :vbthumbsup: ¡Ándale! ¡Ándale! ¡Arriba! ¡Arriba! ¡Epa! ¡Epa! ¡Epa! Yeehaw!
     
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    Sadly I'm still using the Area-51 motherboard...LOL

    I might actually sell the Titan X and go for dual 980Ti or Fury X in SLI/CF. Or wait a bit for the 990 or Fury X2

    I just realized, if I had a 5960X, I could actually make it to the top 100 in the HOF for single card firestrike LOL
     
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    The Fury (or any AMD option for that matter) still scares me. I'm not thrilled with their recent history of poor overclocking abilities and from what little I have seen, their new desktop GPUs don't do well with overclocking. I'd like them to do well, but I would never consider jumping in as an early adopter. I'd let a whole bunch of other people waste their money first and only bite if I see multiple examples of excellent (as in GeForce-killing) overclocking results.
     
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    From my experience AMD cards never have clocked as high as nVidia cards. The Fury X isn't much of an overclocker, but my Titan X...I got this thing over 200Mhz faster than stock and +500 on memory.

    Lots of people have been saying good things about their drivers at least lol



    The one AMD(ATI at the time) card that I had that overclocked nicely was the 4850, I had pencil modded that thing and it clocked very nicely.
     
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    Well I just sold my Titan X ...LOL

    Using a crappy AMD R9 270 right now, can't even run the desktop @ 4k, I'm using 1080p lol. nVidia and AMD better hurry and release those dual GPU cards. :rolleyes:
     
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    I think E8950 MXM will be a joke. It will likely get raped and left for dead by 680M. I doubt it will be much of an improvement, if any at all, over 7970M. 95W GPU is so 2010-11'sh.

    I have an idea! Let's put Intel HD Graphics on MXM PCB. Yeah, that's the ticket.
     
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    its full tonga so about same performance as m390x?
     
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    Isn't the R9 380 tonga? The m390x only had a core clock of 723Mhz so provided that they can get 950-1000Mhz boost clock on the core within the 95w (100w?) limits it should at lest be competitive with the 980m at stock clocks... maybe that is optimistic?
    Lets hope that they have a crossfire port on the card, and that there is a bit of OC head room, I'm hopeful for AMD at least its something... even though its a bit late.

    You might be on to something!! Just so long as the MXM is soldered Intel might be up for it!
     
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    To optimistic :p. Even the new m395x give lower bench score than Gtx970m.
     
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    That's what I mean though, of course they perform badly they are only clocked at 723Mhz, if they can get it up around 1000 (35% increase) which is R9 380 levels all of a sudden they have a chance, I'll admit that would be impressive (impossible?) seeing as the 380 uses up to 200W at stock clocks under load.
    I dunno, I just want AMD to have a win for once...
     
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    gotta wait for at least arctic island man. amd doesnt have the money right now so can only wait
     
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    Nice with wishes but the reality hits you in the head like a hammer :biglaugh:.
     
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    My 4800MQ seems to be running quite hot.

    I did a re-paste, and running a steady -75mV in XTU, the temps fluctuate between 85-90C in the XTU stress test.

    In other benchmarks (like Unigine Valley) it stays in the low 70s, but that XTU score seems quite hot.

    By comparison, the 4710MQ in my old AW17 R1 stayed under 75C in the XTU stress test.

    Any ideas? I could always re-paste again, but the difference in temps between an average and good paste job will probably yield no more than a couple of degrees difference.
     
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    At same core voltage and same paste brand ? Maybe 4800 can hold higher clock speed longer? It's also depend on how plane the heatsink is. Maybe the heatsink in your Aw17 was in better shape.
     
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    Getting better... little by little.

    No ETA on this yet. Won't be until I am done with the project on the EUROCOM SKY X9, but something to have on the radar. Will share when the time comes.

     
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    I have never seen an example of a 4940MX CPU that worked well. Not sure why, but all I have ever seen overclock like crap, but 4930MX does really well.
     
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    1311/28xx

    185/400 is the absolute highest I can go. Something with the BIOS/nvidia driver is preventing me from going higher. 1.1v+ and stock clocks results in the same errors as me clocking high with low volts. It's insanely annoying and makes me wish I had the 870 clevo or 570. 4940MX CPU = $2000 higher price tag, which includes a 512 mSATA SSD. Not worth it at all!

    I'm not looking for a 49xxMX just to get 2-3K more in 3DM11 either. In games the performance is too similar to justify any jump.

    The 4710MQ can only max to 3.5Ghz all 4 cores. The 4910MQ can top out at 4.3 with 4 cores, which is the highest I've ever seen a 4940MX do, in tandem with SLI.

    I've already tripped the 330W PSU with overclocking the 980Ms. I'm not sure why you'd want to see a 4940MX with the 330W limit. I'd have to pull the Johnksss trick, and throttle my CPU with hotkeys during the more stressful subtests.
     
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    What's the asic quality on your 980Ms?
     
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    68.9/73.4

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10502624

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    1331 Mhz / 2907 Mhz 1.1v gpu vcore

    4710MQ @ 3.6Ghz 4 cores

    RAM @ 824Mhz

    The problem all along seems to be VRM temperatures :(

    The GPUs were around 61/c67c and they throttled a little bit in test 4.

    Maybe it's time for CLU? I'm seeing the same thing as Mr. Fox but at much lower temps.
     
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    I just applied Liquid Ultra to my bro's AW17,

    Max temp OC'd on 780m: 75C
    Max CPU temp: 74C

    Before the CPU got to the 90s with IC Diamond but it was like 6 months old.
     
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    New best

    18364 - http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10503632

    246+400

    Test 3 throttled for quite a while which brought down the overall score. I just can't keep the temps down. Really needs CLU + -20c ambient.

    I tried 1.15v and 277/287 which is 1403/1413Mhz core. The temps shot up to 70 in seconds and I saw red artifacts. XD
     
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    I find CLU doesn't affect GPU temps as great as CPU temps. Perhaps because Alienware is using an Aluminum/Copper HS for GPUs and ALL copper for CPU.

    I just applied CLU an hour ago. My CPU @ 3.6Ghz 4 cores maxes at 61c in Intel Burn Test which tests AVX2. :D

    980Ms @ 185/400 1.081v hit 68/71 which is very similar to what they reached before.
     
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    I am so not missing Alienware any more... I'll just leave this right here. :)

    Man, that physics score is pretty sweet for a Quad...

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    Here's one with the DDR4-2400 @ 2800 - Memory bus @ 100x14 (versus 133x10 for 2666)
    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10521723
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    @Mr. Fox @D2 Ultima @TBoneSan @TomJGX @Matrix Leader @johnksss @Prema @Ashtrix
    For those who do not dare delide processor the old fashioned way.
    Wanna replace That thermal insulation material inside your processor the easy way. http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/delid-your-cpu-with-the-delid-die-mate.html
     
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    Those who buy the new modern Crippled laptops with the ugly Hq aka *** processors or not have a desktop PC's dont need to click on the link to view. :p.
     
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    Thank you. I want one of those. I messaged the guy on YouTube to clarify whether he has tried it on Ivy-E (soldered) IHS removal. It bet it would help a lot with CPU temps on the Panther.
     
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    Bro Fox what's the highest stable OC (temps aside) you've reached with your chip?
     
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    4.6GHz benchable stable.
     
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    Wait... which machine are you asking about? Max of 4.6GHz stable is the Panther 4930K. The Sky X9 is stable at 4.7GHz for benching and that is all the higher I have tried yet. I may be able to get another 100-300MHz out of the 6700K.

    Nope... not missing Alienware... not much left to see with them any more.

    Hope to have the final part of the review for the Sky X9 done by this evening. Sure is nice having a new beast to play with, even though it is only temporary.

    [parsehtml]<iframe width="853" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7auK3LA-lWg?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>[/parsehtml]
     
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    @Mr. Fox yep I was referring to the 4930K. These X9's seem awesome. Although I won't be getting one unless I have a little luck in the near future it's actually nice to want something again :)
     
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    I will wait till Eurocom release it with SLI GTX 980 ^^! Or with the new NVIDIA's core Pascal :s Dunno just thinking about the future hope it keeps on like X9's beast
     
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