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    *OFFICIAL* Alienware M18xR1/R2/18 Benchmark Thread - Part 3

    Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by Mr. Fox, Aug 31, 2013.

  1. Mr. Fox

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    FINAL FANTASY XIV: Heavensward Benchmark
    Score: 12058 Extremely High Performance
    1920x1080 Preset 1 DirectX11 Full Screen
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3920XM CPU @ 4.30GHz
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M SLI @ 1007/1500
    HeavensWard-780M-SLI-1007-1500.JPG
     
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    Why only 1007/1500 mr Fox ? :D
     
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    Watching TV in recliner with single AC adapter. Dual AC adapter is in a box and has not been unpacked yet (recently moved). In other words, I'm being lazy. :vbbiggrin:
     
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    Watching TV and run benchmark tests... Yes :p
     
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    Yes sir... and it feels good to know my 3 year old Alien laptop 780M SLI beast still keeps up with newer desktops equipped with decent CPU and single GTX 970 and 980 without even needing to try very hard.

    http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/678050-final-fantasy-xiv-online-a-realm-reborn/71708691?page=4

    It is very sad that Alienware can no longer make such amazing claims with their new wimpy BGA turd laptops. They can use whatever graphics card they want to in the eGPU to help make it not as bad, but it is still not able to deliver full-fledged "desktop" performance like my 3 year old laptop does.
     
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    Many new Aw owners have problems with G/A performance without to use a external monitor and as well they have a bunch of processor throttling under maximum load in simple benchmark tests even if they use a 240W power supply. I see more and more weird problems with the new Aw models. That DELL began producing such garbage is pretty sad... Now you need to take with you a big screen as well as a laptop and graphics amplifier if you use your laptop other place than where you live. Pretty hopeless :vbeek:
    upload_2015-5-18_5-44-14.png
     
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    But, they are thinner and lighter, so being messed up should have been predicable. That's what "they" asked for. Like mama used to say, " Be careful what you ask for, because you might get it." It is so unfortunate that the wishes of some has to ruin things for everyone.
     
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    Old word of wisdom is generally true... :)
     
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    Substantial difference... not sure how much difference the CPU is making on the score, but it's a big gap between 780M SLI and 980M SLI.

    I'm not particularly fond of this game franchise, or for the entire game genre in general, but it is kind of a fun benchmark to watch run its course.

    Alienware M18xR2 - 3920XM | GTX 780M SLI Clevo P570WM - 4930K | GTX 980M SLI
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    I'll be back soon ;)

    [​IMG]
     
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    Is that empty box an MSI eGPU housing? Can't tell for sure what it is, but I suspect that is by design to peak our curiosity.

    Hurry back soon.
     
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    Alienware M18xR2 Beast Machine - New 3DMark 11 Extreme World Record for 780M SLI with Mobile Extreme Processor
    CPU Overclock: 4,703.95MHz (+62.21%) GPU Overclock: 1,165MHz (+51.10%) / 1,500MHz (+20.00%)
    Posted by Weyland Yutani on Saturday, June 20, 2015

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M SLI video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3920XM Processor Extreme Edition,Alienware M18xR2

    (Second place behind Brother @johnksss P570WM3 4930K with 780M SLI)

    [​IMG]

    Not my best "P" score, but still great... NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M SLI video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3920XM Processor Extreme Edition,Alienware M18xR2

    [​IMG]
     
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    Soon passed X7000 in 3DMark 11 Extreme. Nice ... I'm waiting :D.
     
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    The trouble is running out of power and shutting down, even with dual AC adapter. I'm using ThrottleStop profiles for benching in the same way I used to before I had a dual AC adapter setup, only at a much higher overclock than what possible before. I had about 10 or 15 power shutdowns to get that one X score. I don't like doing that so many times if I can avoid it. I'm not sure it is a good thing for the hardware, and we know it plays hell with Windows corruption. Thank goodness for Macrium Reflect... has saved my bacon from having to clean install many times.
     
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    Looks like my brothers could use some company. Just playing around with a single 980ti. Early day. I got a pretty mighty OC on stock voltages I thought. I think I can get +280 but these Nvidia drivers are problematic to say the least.

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9960216 (win 8 bench)

    If anyone can recommend me a vbios..I'm all ears :)
     
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    http://www.overclock.net/t/1558645/official-nvidia-gtx-980-ti-owners-club

    "980Ti-SC-425.zip" under " Modded Bios - Thanks to those of you working on these. (Click to show)"

    :D

    My best attempt thus far: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9923643
     
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    Very nice indeed brother! Cheers for the link. I was eye-ing off that vbios... are you on water? I'm getting this now on stock voltages and bios... Still finding the limits... actually I'm wasting alot of time on phyics.. suddenly 4.5 is locking up which is frustrating. Super annoyed :mad:

    @Mr. Fox do you have that link of windows 8 updates that tend to inhibit performance? I think that might have something to do with it.
     
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    I'm using the stock nvidia cooler. On water I'd probably be able to push it harder.

    I'm using the same vbios except for the Titan X of course. That's a pretty good overclock on the stock bios, on the modified one you should be able to go an additional 100mhz probably on the core depending how well your card overclocks.

    My physics score is low. The Alienware motherboard isn't the best and I am only running dual channel at the moment. Need quad channel. ;)
     
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    pretty sad when a post about what scores we get with are laptops has to turn to desktop stuff because of dells bs..
     
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    Yup... and, when NVIDIA retroactively cripples Kepler GPUs with cancer drivers and forces them to throttle like a big dog, that's really sad, too. Between the two of them, the lights are growing pretty dim.
     
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    Yeah. For a time it made good sense to for AW/Clevo Brothers to post their freshly built desktop/DRT scores. It was always interesting to see how they stacked up against our portable beasts. If anything it shows/ed how powerful these AWs could be when they'd still trade blows which desktop equipment.
     
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    That makes it even more remarkable!
    Nice. I can't get that sort of physics score on my 5820k sitting in a desktop. 4.5ghz is a good as I'm getting from my chip.
     
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    Alienware M18xR1
    • 2920XM @ 4.3GHz
    • GTX 780M SLI @ 1007/1500
    • 16GB DDR3-1866 @ CL10-10-10-30 2T
    Options: Resolution: 1920 x 1080; Quality: Very High; SSAA: Off; Texture filtering: AF 16X; Motion Blur: Normal; Tesselation: Very High; VSync: Off; Advanced PhysX: On

    Average Results
    • Average Framerate: 81.00
    • Max. Framerate: 246.79
    • Min. Framerate: 16.65
    [​IMG]

    Alienware M18xR2
    • 3920XM @ 4.3GHz
    • GTX 780M SLI @ 1007/1500
    • 32GB DDR3-2133 @ CL11-11-11-31 2T
    Options: Resolution: 1920 x 1080; Quality: Very High; SSAA: Off; Texture filtering: AF 16X; Motion Blur: Normal; Tesselation: Very High; VSync: Off; Advanced PhysX: On

    Average Results
    • Average Framerate: 84.00
    • Max. Framerate: 244.56
    • Min. Framerate: 12.41
    [​IMG]

    Clevo P570WM (Eurocom Panther)
    • 4930K @ 4.5GHz
    • GTX 980M SLI @ 1302/1403
    • 16GB DDR3-2400 @ CL11-13-13-25 1T
    • Dual 330W AC Adapter
    Options: Resolution: 1920 x 1080; Quality: Very High; SSAA: On; Texture filtering: AF 16X; Motion Blur: Normal; Tesselation: Very High; VSync: Off; Advanced PhysX: On

    Average Results
    • Average Framerate: 81.00
    • Max. Framerate: 329.71
    • Min. Framerate: 14.29
    [​IMG]

    Same as above with CPU set as PhysX Processor

    Average Results
    • Average Framerate: 86.00
    • Max. Framerate: 260.15
    • Min. Framerate: 13.29
    [​IMG]
     
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    Damn that is an epic machine you got there, faster than my desktop!

    Since we basically have the same CPU, I'm curious, are you getting away with 4.7GHz under 1.4V?

    What are you hitting with the 980M's boost-wise?

    Mine is in my signature, of note I should be at 22k GPU Firestrike but Win7 tends to run about 500-600 points lower for me here than 8.1. I suppose that's one of the things I'm actually looking forward to with the OS refresh, not having 600 points lower score than everyone else with the same hardware running at the same frequency. I'm sure keeping the GPU core under 50C helps a great deal in this regard; although GM200 doesn't appear to be responsive to additional voltage, you can secure another 100MHz or so dropping the core down under 50C. Oh and ASIC is 69.3%.

    I feel fortunate that I received a sample that will do 1513-1526MHz 2000-2050MHz memory with no additional voltage, it seems a large number with 980 Ti are unable to secure more than 1450MHz and adding voltage doesn't seem to help a whole lot.

    But yeah, 25k GPU is really impressive for 980M SLI, that's gotta be near GTX 980 SLI or better. I think you might have one of the fastest DTR's in existence.
     
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    Yeah, the Eurocom Panther/Clevo P570WM is an Über Beast laptop for sure. I may have to snag a 4960X when my cash flow situation improves. I've got most of the top scores with a 4930K CPU and 980M SLI in a laptop, but I've hit a wall with that CPU. It's definitely an amazing 4930K sample, (thanks Brother @johnksss,) but the 4960X is--as the case almost always is with Extreme CPUs--a cut above an ordinary desktop K or mobile Q processor. I am still undecided whether to leave the laptop scene behind entirely or not. I may just save my money and wait to see if Clevo releases a dual-GPU laptop with X99 and 5960X. If not, I may just wait and build a monster desktop with a phase change cooling system instead.

    3DMark 11 Performance - P24068

    3DMark 11 Extreme - X10870

    Fire Strike - 18284

    Fire Strike Extreme - 9601

    @Meaker has me beat with Fire Strike Extreme

    Fire Strike Ultra - 5508
     
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    That's really cool looking. I really love that pipe frame chassis style... has the sassy look and feel of a super-bike/crotch rocket.

    If I have to go back to building desktops again, whatever I build will be a gigantic, power-sucking, WMD/warmongering lunatic beast. Would be shooting for something that cranks out benchmark numbers on this order of magnitude, or fairly close to that:

    Fire Strike Extreme: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/4959948

    3DMark 11 Performance: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9712075

    3DMark 11 Extreme: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9881450

    Vantage Extreme: http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/5261124
     
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    @Mr. Fox - OMG those scores... Those physics scores. I'd love to just observe a run through of 3d Mark 11 on that machine. Just watch those numbers fly.
     
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    @ Brother Fox what was your max gtx 780m sli 3dm11 and 3dmark firestrikre results? Also a general question. Does Gtx 780m Sli @1050~1100 in Gaming outperforms a Desktop GTX 970?
     
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    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8291584

    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2330540

    There are hardly any GTX 970 single GPU benchmarks on the Futuremark leader board. There is one invalid Fire Strike that is flagged for errors and only three 3DMark 11 results on a system with an extreme GPU overclock and a heavily overclocked 5960X. Looking at the 3DMark11 graphics scores, my best results with 780M SLI heavily overclocked would likely be better than a stock single GTX 970, but there is too little data to make a strong statement one way or the other.

    Seems the small sample of benchers running 970 are running SLI. It is probably safe to say that most folks buying 970 desktop GPUs are not hardcore performance enthusiasts and are more likely looking for acceptable gaming performance at an affordable price. Otherwise, they would have purchased something more substantial that GTX 970. Basically, the same thing we see with laptops. Some folks are fine with second fiddle performance if it does whatever they need it to without costing an arm and a leg.

    780M SLI is very similar to the performance as 970M SLI. http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/9329270/3dm11/8291584
     
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    Thank you bro. Just found out of gtx 970 max oced at 1500 scores around 13500 in graphics in firestrike. I am considering an egpu with pe4c pcie gen 3 for my m18x. Lets see might hold up and save some cash also.
     
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    wow I think you have highest with 3dm11 for 980m sli graphic score. How about 3dm FS?
     
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    They are some mighty fine samples Sir :)
     
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    Finally got my 980ti under water and a unlocked bvios..
    fun times...
    If I can get to 23,000 I'll be happy... for a while :D

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    @ssj92 - thanks for the links a few pages back brother. Time to come out and play now :D
     
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    LOL nice! I probably will wait until I get some quad channel ddr4 so I can improve my physics score.

    Does this look about right for a stock alienware 18? 4930mx and 780m sli: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10212281
     
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    Yeah, I noticed you had your 5820k @ 4.6
    Mine was at 4.4 on that run yet higher on the physics score. I can't get any more than 4.5. You think the quad ram made the diff ?

    Your AW18 looks about right for a bone stock. No OC on the CPU yet either right?
     
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    The quad memory does make a difference but I think more of that difference is coming from the motherboard. I'm using the Area-51 R2 motherboard still, also I'm using a 120mm aio cooler. If I had a custom loop I can probably get a better score. When I get quad memory it should help though and I'll try and see why my score at a higher clock is lower than it should be.

    Yes that is a bone stock AW18 with no overclocking at all. I just wanted to make sure the performance is fine under windows 10.
     
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    It's good to see that an air cooled Clevo P570WM with a 4930K and 980M SLI can hold its own against a liquid cooled desktop with 5820K and 980 Ti.

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9905398
    [​IMG]
     
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    It sure can brother Fox. And, if you sit your DTR machine next to mine or any other desktop you truly start wonder why great hulking desktops are still so ubiquitous. Going forward there needs to be more DTR's - definitely not less. Perhaps the focus groups need a shake up - start aiming such at Desktop enthusiasts rather than the "let play with our toys on lunch break" using battery crowd.

    I absolute love my machine right now (pics coming). It's nice having a buffet of parts I can choose from. But if a Hawell-E / Broadwell-E / Skylake-E 120hz DTR machine comes to town, and we're offered a future of upgradable MXM GPU's I'd probably make it my mission to obtain one pretty quick smart.

    Things are actually looking a bit better than 1 months ago aren't they? I'm holding a torch for Clevo. Alienware have burnt their bridges with me... unless they bring a crazy 2011-x* socket to the party - it would be pretty hard to say "no" to that.
     
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    Can't wait to get my next Clevo :D
     
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    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

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    LOL, yup. And, the score with the M18xR2 was December 8, 2013. So much for "progress" :vbbiggrin:

    Maybe that's why NVIDIA is trying so hard to cripple laptops and forcing 780M SLI to throttle with cancer drivers. Too hard for them to demonstrate progress when their "antique" MXM cards in SLI can nip the heels of NVIDIA powered single-GPU desktops. Hopefully, they won't pull similar driver shenanigans to cripple 980M SLI to make desktops look better. Then again, maybe NVIDIA already did based on what happens to 980M SLI when installed in an Alienware laptop. I still blame NVIDIA for that. Alienware didn't change their machines. The changes that broke everything where implemented by NVIDIA. NVIDIA is 100% responsible for whatever happened, not Alienware, as far as I am concerned... corporate sabotage. The cynical side of my persona is even starting to wonder now if the bricked Alienware LCD panels is actually a clandestine stunt for the same reasons. I so wish that AMD didn't produce garbage MXM cards.
     
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    Yeah I have a gut feeling we're dealing with some sinister behavior here too. Look how they loaded up the Witcher 3 with unnecessary levels of Tessellation through gameworks so it would cripple older cards. They gave a massive middle finger to 780 / ti users just to peddle new 980 cards. They're getting their planned obsolescence down to a fine science and playing us all like a fiddle.
    Yeah.. God help AMD. I wish they'd get bankrolled by company that would give them a decent R&D and a swift kick in the balls. I really should by supporting them, but they don't quite yet deserve my hard earned $$'s either yet / again. If they can do something special with HBM2.. basically beat Nvidia in performance (and we've seen no HBM1 failures by that time), then that might be a good time.
    Unfortunately with MXM it feels like they raised the white flag somewhere around 8970m days.
     
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