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    RTX 3000 tested in AW18

    Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by razor0601, Jun 3, 2020.

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    Today my HP RTX 3000 arrived. In SG-Mode it works fine in AW18. But installing this card is a disaster. For testing I took an M18X R2 Heatsink, because with AW18 Heatsink I need a dremel. It doesn’t sit very well on the card. The next thing is how to get this card sitting perfectly on the MXM slot. The mounting holes are displaced. So I have to build a bracket to hold the card. But the good thing is the card is @stock as fast as a P5000/1070 and works with the newest driver(mod.inf)
     

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    Great work! I'd love to see how it fits in the M18x and Ranger.
    +REP
     
    Maxware79, Jun 3, 2020
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    This is awesome! Was a VBIOS mod required? You plugged it in and it just worked? My mouth is watering for just one more upgrade on my Ranger.

    Just... One... More... Upgrade!!!
     
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    No VBIOS mod was required. I plugged in, Bios showed the card and it worked.
     
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    The fact that his is possible is a testament to how far Workstations have fallen.
     
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    I'm frustrated with the stupidity of all the companies that abandoned standard MXM. If HP can fit these Quadro cards onto a card almost exactly the size of standard MXM 3.0B board, there's no reason everyone needed to go off and make their own weird cards.

    At least I know for certainty now that I can perform at least one more upgrade on my Ranger.
     
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    The only thing you have to do is modify your Heatsink and maybe build a bracket to hold the card.
     
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    Nice.
    Could you do same 3dMark benchmarks like Firestrike and Timespy, please.
     
    Baddemichl, Jun 5, 2020
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    I only have Superposition and now I am testing this card in Precision M6700
     
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    Next days I‘m trying to mod the Heatsink to get this card fully working.
     
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    You can try getting the Z book's heatsink ( Which came with RTX 3000 ) and remove the copper pipes from it and attach the ones from you AW 18's heatsink by using hot air gun . Atleast you will have proper fitting that way. It isnt that much risky i would say
     
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    Which Zbook is that ?
     
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    That GPU in there looks like a normal MXM 3.0 card
     
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    yeah but there is a difference in the heatsink if you can see closely .. i mean the fitting and the ups and downs for Coils , Vrms etc
     
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    I think it’s easier to mod the AW18 Heatsink. Seems to be easier than modding for a MSI 1070. Only thing I have to think about is how I mount the card on the board.
     
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    It’s done.
     

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    upload_2020-7-1_7-19-37.jpeg
     
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    Does this work with RTX 5000? and how does this perform under benchmarks?
     
    devilhunter, Jul 21, 2020
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    I think it will work. But you need the 100w Heatsink from M18X R2.
     
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    That's way too cool.

    Wonder if 4940mx is a bottle necking. I do have a mint Alienware 18 maxed out, I wonder if I should sell it or experiment on it.
     
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    Overclocked 4940MX should not bottleneck even RTX 5000, unless you play some game that is super CPU reliant. Even then you should be getting very good performance.
     
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    Should work.

    I remember @Baddemichl tested the RTX 5000 in m18x r2, but he wasn't satisfied with the performance outcome, I think.

    Also it's a mess they changed the position of the fixing hole
     
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    The RTX 5000 was power limited to 80 watts I think. If the power limit was raised, it would perform better.
     
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    The 4940MX will be the bottleneck, because of optimus. To get the full power of RTX5000, you have to go up to 4,6 and higher on all cores.
    If i can remember, the 49xx xm series was not the best cpus to OC.
     
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    Just a quick side note, there’s a guy on the Dell Community forum who’s running an 18 with a Clevo RTX 2080. I’ve asked him to post over here but he seems reluctant. He said it was pretty much plug and play with no modifications.


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    What about in M17xR4 with 120Hz display, there's no Optimus.

    Clevo RTX 2080 is not plug n play, especially since it requires a mod to the MXM socket. @Mr. Fox did this in his P870DM but with 1080 I believe.
     
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    That’s what I said to him but I’m pretty sure he said he didn’t. I’d have to check what he said.


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    sounds crazy, would love to if you can share a link.
     
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    @Maxware79 hey, any news from the guy ?
     
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    Can you please send some benchmarks @razor0601 , to see how it compares to 980m or 1070 thank you .
     
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    Here you go
     

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    Possible for you to also run a regular Firestrike?
    For comparability.
     
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    And TimeSpy 1.0 please
     
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    No sorry. I sold the whole Laptop.
     
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    How you guys ended up with heatsink modification? Have AMD100W and i'm not sure if worth to try.
    THX!
     
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    You can give it a try.
     
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    The HP card X-Brackets holes looks a bit shifed to right in comperisson to 980M design. So this wasn`t an issue for you?
     
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    No it wasn‘t.
     
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    For anyone looking into this, here is the ADLINk RTX 3000 version of the card running in the all powerful M18xR2.

    4.1Ghz CPU
    32GB 2133Mhz RAM
    Optimus (SG)

    [​IMG]

    I will be making my own thread with more benchmarks such as TS, FS, PR
     
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