What users want in the M18x R2

TOTALLY AGREE!

EDIT: BTW, I DID ADD MY +10 VOTE IN THE "IDEASTORM"... HOPE SOMEBODY FROM DELLIENWARE DESIGN-ENGINEERING STAFF WILL POST AN ANSWER...

 

Thanks for your vote SOSO4DELL.

I add this to the first post :
3) Bigger screen that fit 16:10 natural résolution with more PPI at 1920x1200 reolution

 

Dear Anentropik, maybe you can add to the list a much, much, much better (and transparent) manufacturing & pre-sell/packaging testing QC (Quality Control) to avoid so many machines that do not work as expected (pay for) "right-out-of-the-box"?
Thanks for considering this.

 

Yes I was thinking about this, and now I add it in the Software & Services section:
1) Much better (and transparent) manufacturing & pre-sell/packaging testing QC (Quality Control)

 

Thanks champ!

 

Hello guys, I would like to have THUNDERBOLT (light peak). It wouldn't be neccesary to add any port to the case, just update the old Display Port to THUNDERBOLT.

 

Hmmm.... Thunderbolt sounds interesting. I hadn't heard of it before, most likely because it is primarily used in Apple computers, of which I have absolutely zero interest. Knowing it's an Intel technology, I'm far more receptive. And, after reading about it on wikipedia, the technology does seem like it could be put to very good use in a PC platform if enough peripherals are developed to support it.

By the way, welcome to the NBR Forum, wacamole. We're glad you joined us. As soon as your membership allows, please add a signature to let us know about your system. +1 rep for your recommendation on Thunderbolt and as a welcome gift.

And, I cannot resist mentioning that your forum handle is the phonetic equivalent of my favorite food in the whole world, LOL. I think I could survive on nothing but guacamole for the rest of my life.

 

I do not know much about the THUNDERBOLT, do what works with the "old display port" will also work on a THUNDERBOLT ?

 

I would like in the M18x-R2 a little LCD like the Dell M1730 and the G15 or G19.



this will be amazing to see the température in game without doing an alt+tab or to see the process during game etc etc

 

@K-nabeesse
Hello,
I think there is no place in the m18x, as there are Heatthink of CPU/GPU.

A small question to our learned men of NBR, what is the cost of energy for this kind of gadget?

For me, I do not want to have a small screen on the m18x, but if it is an option so I see no impropriety. Perhaps a little USB screen that we can plug when we need it ?

Other Have an opinion on the subject?

 

I used to be an XPS M1730 owner. The small LCD would fit well in the power and media button strip on the left side. Whether this would be a welcomed feature is user preference. It was not something I was overly impressed with, but it was an OK feature. I've never missed not having it. Some folks were really impressed by it.

 

What about a Docking Station for the M18x? Maybe even merged with a Laptop/DesktopReplacement cooler? That can be a great product almost every 'Alien' out here would like to have... since @home and @ office we use to have many external devices to be connected... and doing this every morning and then again every evening is annoying and time consuming...

Hey Delliens! It also can be very profitable... ;-)

EDIT: Sorry, it was already included... I'm getting too old... or my eyes and mind too antique...

 

Hi Mr. Fox, thanks for the warm welcome! I've been following this forum for long but never post anything... I was looking forward to buy an m18x but I didn't do it mainly because of the display they put in it... we want more!!
Anentropik, THUNDERBOLT is a new promissing Intel connector that uses optical technology and is supposed to replace USB, HDMI and Firewire. It's the reason why Intel delayed USB 3.0 support in their chipsets... Apparently, now that Thunderbolt is on the market (apple first) it would be implemented in the next intel chipset generation along with USB 3.0. The connector is physically the same as Display Port, and anything that works with Display Port is compatible with THUNDERBOLT.

Main features:
10 Gb/s on 3 meters copper cable (possibly to be developped up to 100 Gb/s optical cables? dunno)
Bidirectional data transfer
Multi protocol
Simultaneous connection to different devices
Hot swap

Intel's Thunderbolt Technology in Action - YouTube

Yes, we definitely want that!

I'll get my m18x when Dell update it with Ivy Bridge (guess mid 2012) and I hope they already have new display options by then...
At this time I have a very old Clevo that I am ashamed to talk about...
Cheers!

 

@Wacamole: yes! yes! and then yes! This is the connector that will made is and our way into the near and midterm future.
Cheers!

 

@SOS4DELL
A docking station is already in the list, but it's great that you show us you want it

@K-nabeesse
I wait for other opinions but tomorrow if there no cons opinion, I will add it to the list

@Bill_b
Have you some knowledge about this point : (DEll is working on it ?)
1) Optimus and/or iGPU/GPU 's(SLI or CF) switch without reboot pain

@wacamole
Thank you for the great explanation ! Ok that's a great idea ! I add it !
--> 8) THUNDERBOLT port replacing the display port



@ALL
I have another idea, I think for the Oc'ers that we are that it could be great to have a more powerfull PSU with a minimum of 400Watts, no ?

 

i see one thing not on that list that needs to be.
we need system wide fan control!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
high/medium/low and fan profiles. would like to be able to control them separately if at all possible.


hummm, yes...a usb version of the lcd mini screen for diagnostic stuff:
cpu speed and temp(all 5 sensors)
memory speed and temp
gpu/igpu memory, core speed and temp
ambient temps
throttling

this can also be a mini plug off the back of the laptop as well.

 

@johnksss
I summaries
1) Total fan contrôl
2) An USB pluggable mini LCD screen to watch all speeds/temps for (RAM, GPU, IGPU, CPU, HDD, SDD, ...)

I wait that K-nabeesse tell us if he's ok for an USB version

 

Thanks to you Anentropik!

 

You mean a USb version (external) or like the M1730 plugged in the Keyboard like this for the m18x ....

Yes like that and if possible like the logitech game panel, the statistique of the game you're paying like BC2 or a MMORPG....

 

@K-nabeesse
Yes I mean an external part, but not a full keyboard, just the little screen.

IMO, I dont like to have an integrated screen that give me too much light at the wrong position

 

^^ External or as an option it would be nice but not above the keyboard, too distracting IMHO.

 

Maybe that light can be dimmed? and the little screen integrated in the screen bezel?

;-)

 

I'll prefer a built-in, with the possibility like the G15 to switch-off the light....

An external will be to boring to tansport !!!

 

Agree!
We already are shackled prisioners with the mammoth PSU... (Can the make a nano PSU? and, in that line, a nano battery? Oh, well! we need to dream a little... Jobs did it...)

 

about as boring as hooking up a Alienware TactX.

and no on gaming info on the on board or external version of this.

way to many people will chime in to express their hate since it wont carry every game on the planets stats or whatever else one can dream up.

 

^^
Agree, it will be something like the switchblade fail on the Razer 'gaming' laptop.

 

That's the exercise of democracy: People can express different preferences ... Everyone has the right to say whatever they want and nobody is forced to listen...

 

the lcd size im talking about is like this...but of course...same size, but more screen. this is like 3 by 1.5 inches. comes with the Asus MAXIMUS Formula.


side note:
damn, had to look up this switch blade thing a ma jig....rotfl-hella hard! i wish i would get that!

 

^^ I was never against this.

 

Well it is precisely because the opinions are divided that I had proposed a version of USB, or optional.

Like all of us here, I find unbearable to have to lug around me tons of material in addition to the laptop, but honestly do you need all the time to know your temperature, speed and memory? I mean we do not need this USB LCD screen every time we move, it must be used in the process of OC and from time to time to control.

Rhhhaaa I do not know what I should add to the first post of this thread.

That?
A small LCD screen to view all temperatures, speeds and memory (GPU, CPU, RAM, SSD,...), integrated or external USB version.

 

me...when benching. yes..when not benching...no.
but now all these gamers running around talking about A"what is you temp" in just about every thread on here...might be in a different category.

usb version would mean that once it's perfected..it could be used on all laptops versu just the m18x r2 with a small lcd screen.

but in the end...it's just a thought.

my main concern is fan control. which isn't on the list in red.

 

1º A teleporter
2º A space ship
3º The little lcd screen with temps and core usage and all that was nice, but embeded in the laptop...
4º A screen cleaner.
5º A robot servant to carry around all the weight.
6º It converts into a real beast and kill all our enemys.
7º A GPS tracker sistem, just to kill anyone that dares steal it.

 

You sure you didn't forget anything?

 

forgot the 27 hot girls in bikini picking you up and carry you everywere.

 

Team - a word of caution as we are having fun. The Brass at Dell/Alienware knows about this thread and are looking for real input, so let's not stray too far into left field.

While you are on-topic with what you want, somehow I think the items in newest the wish list are going to be tough for them to deliver, and the one forgotten item will simply be far too expensive.

 

someone's been smoking a very bad weed

 

I haven't worked on it, yet. Been kinda busy lately.

Is it still needed, though? If we're being monitored by Dell to see our suggestions, I don't know if we need to send them letters

 

$Mr Fox
Thank you.

@K-nabeesse
I add your little LCD

@icekilla
Okay, perhaps that we should wait for DEll_Bill__B to tell us if it's a good Idea to send them a letter or not ?

 

i know your not talking about user fan control???? which some how "still isn't on the list" (smh) something that can down temps by at least 10C. (smh) clevo has this, not sure why AW thinks we shouldn't....or is this to complicated as well?

 

No, user fan control should definitely be on the list. I was referring to something else.

 

ahh...i gotcha.

say, when did you become a mod???

congratz, because i never even paid attention to that...lol

 

Sorry. I had completely forgotten the fan control. (It's fixed now )

And it seems to me that no one told me about a more powerful PSU and possibly thinner (with the new technology of carbon nanotubes, which improves the efficiency of electrode up to 45%)

 

hey bill...when you make my new r2 make sure fan control is second on that list. with rgb being first.
side note:
make having "all copper heat sinks" for the gpu as well...as much money that is being spent..we should have all copper. aluminum heat sinks are 1/3 of the problem. everyone knows nvidia runs hotter.( so these cards should come standard with all copper)(wouldn't hurt for amd to run all copper either.)....need to post that in another thread...

 

Personally,I find myself disagreeing with many of these suggestions.

The M18 DRP is fundermentally a PC gaming station. As such it would benefit from modifications that help it excel in this capacity. That is to have a better screen, first and foremost. I dont really care about lights, cd's, or tea makers.

 

I have to strongly agree there has to be an all copper heatsink especially given the price a brand new build costs. Its not going to make a lot of difference to have all copper heatsink to the overall costs when they mass produce it.

Its not worth it cutting corners there.

 

@jono123
Another perspective is to say if I do not need it, does it bother me?

For example, I need an integrated fingerprint reader, I currently have one and I can not do without it, it's so convenient!
If you don't need it, does it bother you if there is one?

But I am always very interested in the views of others so feel free to detail what you would see in the m18x R2.

@mhardridas
Are you really sure that it produce a significant difference, I mean if it give us only 1 or 2 degrees useful only for Hard OC, we perhaps could bypass it ?

 

Its a huge difference, copper can hold more heat and also distribute it much quickly than Aluminum or steel based cooling.

The only drawback being its easy to spoil an all copper heatsink if you are not careful.

 

@mharidas
What number of degree do you think we would win?

 

Over the current setup? Easily 10 degrees cooler and in the worst case it will be 5 degrees cooler.

 

@mharidas
Are xou ok with that :
7) 2, 3 or 4 all copper heatsink option for the CPU & GPU

[EDIT]
And what you think about the need of a more powerfull PSU and thinner if possible ?