m18x to get GTX 560m and 'other exciting GPU options' in June

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Newer Info From Eric ... 560m GTX ... Possible 580M GTX and a New AMD Card as well ... codename BlackComb XTX

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Same here... :/

Please let us know how the LCD is once you receive it.

 

can u just switch 6970m to 560m?

is it motherboard that doesnt support or power?

I dont think they r gonna make r2 for sure this time around.

 

Is there an 18.4 LCD screen whose quality is somewhere between the m18x's WLED and an RGB?

 

Agreed, let us know! The RGB LED is the only thing that gives me a bit of pause

 

Same here. If RBG comes To the M18x a while from now I'll be okay (say, next year). But if it's a month or two I'm gonna be steamed.

 

Maybe wishful thinking but I wouldn't think Dell would release what is a significant upgrade option so shortly after product launch. Lots of annoyed people...

 

well if an RGB led + gtx 580 is what is to come in 2-3 months (summer)... im cancelling my order right away.

 

Oddly enough, I don't think the same guy pushing the GTX 580 rumors for the M18x on his website have made any mention of the RGB LED screen

 

I doubt you will get similar pricing with Nvidia cards That 150$ extra for 2x6970M is a lifetime opportunity for a Canadian

 

560M is weaker than 6970M so it should be easier to place in

 

There's one panel with 90% gamut. It's closer to RGB than WLED (72%)

 

I am really glad that over the top screen quality is lost on me......sucks to be excited and then have that ruined over a rumor.....

 

lmao. That was great. I know Ive been reading about it all day... its causing some of these guys to have anxiety. The way I see it is 1920 x 1080 FHD WLED will be awsome in its own right.

 

Unless it is something significantly better than the 6970m and NOT GTX 485m (the power/performance is just not there for me...) I will manage to stay happy

 

I was told by a Dell support tech that i would ba able to change the video cards. That they were low profile PCIe. Of course the design of the card would have to fit....

 

I have a studio xps 16 with an RGBLED screen but in all honesty I think I might have blinked when I saw the rumor but that's about it. No way in hell am I canceling my order when it's right on the verge of being delivered. Screen be damned!

 

When is your EDD ?

 

Says the 25th but I was told by the my rep it would be here Wednesday. I got next day shipping free. I plan to put up pics, benchmark at least the top 10 games out now, and post up reviews of the webcam quality, speakers, build, etc. I'm not much into unboxing video's but I plan to do a very good thorough review and I have a temp gun so I'm going to temp the exhaust air even on idle and under load and I use my current laptop on the side of my chair with a coolboard so I plan to use something similar for the m18x as well so I'll try to post reviews of those as well.

I'm upgrading aftermarket the HD to a corsair 128gb M4 SSD and 16GB of 1600 Kingston Memory. They will be here Tuesday. Going to bench before and after the upgrade as well so that might help others.

I assume this will take me most of the week to put something together that will justify a good review but hopefully being so thorough will help others get off the fence.

 

yes sir , you're right

 

That will be a very nice contribution. Lol on the unboxing. I plan on doing some vids.. but I would feel like a complete idiot doing that. Im more of a spec and information type of guy. not gonna post my over joyed mug on the internet unboxing my rig. Not to mention.. I dont think Ill be able pay much attention at first.

 

Lol, I start this wonderful thread, with some great info ... and I still ain't got no rep ...

Meh I am very interested in whatever is coming in June, mad props to those that have jumped on the mothership and will give us our first looks, always need someone to blaze the path.

I figure that either way waiting til June makes sense at this point, either a better (although not yet 6970 worthy) Nvidia option, or a possible better 6990 ? whatever the xtx is.

If Nvidia comes down in price, that would be very interesting, if not, then if there is a better raddeon card coming in at a cheap price as well, then its still a win.

 

I'm in the same boat as you. The Macbook and M17 R3 screen are pretty gorgeous to me. Sounds like we have some screens snobs I guess I would understand had I used one, but I used the U2311 IPS displays at home and those are pretty darn nice but they dont make me lose my mind if I'm not looking at one on a laptop.

 

As long as the bios supports it.

 

Back in the day before I had an HD tv, I played my 360 at 480p and didn't really care, because I hadn't experienced HD before.

Now, I could never go back to that. It's very similar for laptop screens.

 

No sir you are wrong.

A single GTX485m does hold a measurable but small lead over the 6970M, however as crossfire currently scales better than SLI this lead gets removed and the only difference between the cards becomes which games prefer SLI or crossfire.

 

ATI cards are no more of a headache than Nvidia cards. Ask M17x R1 owners what they think about Nvidia and headaches. Stop spreading lies from 10 years ago. It's been several generations since you could say that ATI drivers were a bigger headache to deal with.

 

I think it all comes down to driver support and it seems that people just feel more comfortable with choosing the cards that have a better chance of being supported down the road.

 

Id imagine the 580 would trickle down to the r3? Is it (560) only an overclocked 560 or any other changes? They did introduce the 6970 after about 2 months on the r3? Owners were peeved at that with the 460.

An rgb would be sweet but sucks they don't have 1200p available. I wish they would just make a screen like 2560x1600 or something and have it set at 1080/1200p max. At least everything would be sharper. Noone complains about the iphone 4 and its resolution. Nothing peeves me more than how windows 7 icons look so fugly and blocky. They should learn something from
apple.

I must admit though 1080p screens make a laptop look better. A little shorter and wider looks better than big and square. That's just me.

 

485m uses the latest core, so a 580m can only be an OCed one, but its already at the 100W limit.

 

From what I remember my old Mbp screen was brighter for sure and was more white than both my r3s.

 

The 485m is a GF104 core, it has better logic for more performance than GF100

The 500 series will be GF11X chips which have better power usage due to a more optimal transistor usage and design. Expect more performance in the same power envelope with the 500 series. This will have identical core logic but be higher clocked due to the higher efficiency

 

Personally, I'm very excited about all this. The RGB is a nice sweetner on the deal (which I was hoping for from the start), but for me the option of a better nvidia gpu option is fantastic. So glad I waited and I'm really looking forward to the options available.

The thing is something like that can leave a very serious impression on a gamer after spending some few hundred dollars on a card, much less two. Additionally, ATI cards still don't play well with some games, there's one MMO in particular with wihch it reaks havoc if you even think of antialiasing, and for a pair of very expensive graphics cards in CF to not be able to do something is a bitter pill.

 

ATI has issues with single games here and there, but Nvidia has been known to have much more serious issues. The M17x R1's had a serious DPC latency issue being caused by Nvidia drivers, that wasn't resolved for a very long time. Dell resorted to putting ATI cards in instead towards the end of its life cycle, even though it was an Nvidia motherboard.

Nvidia also released a desktop driver at one point that messed up peoples GPU fans and killed graphics cards. There was also the whole issue with all of the mobile 8xxx GPU's that had to be recalled. Even their brand new 590 is burning up on people, they finally announced this week that they are going to revise it.


I'm not trying to be all ATI fanboy, I'm just saying that if you look at recent history, Nvidia is the one that has had all of the serious problems.

Overall I think its pretty dumb to say that one is "good" and the other "bad". They both make awesome products and they both have their share of issues. They are both good enough that people should be making their decisions based on cost/performance

 

They should be considered equal on stability from here out. Just differentiating features like 3D, cuda, and eyefinity

I go with whatever is the best price/performance available in the laptop I am considering.

 

ati had a flickering issue with crysis 2, not sure if nvidia did

ati still has a lag issue in RTS games when scrolling top right or bottom right

ati before had a cursor corruption bug

5970 was one of the worst cards to have in regards to drivers in the past while

both are just as bad which i why i dont care what i own.

to date my favourite cards are:

Radeon 9700Pro - best DX9 card ever made
nVIDIA 8800GTX - best DX10 card ever made
GTX480 (first card to play GTA IV well) / Radeon 6950 softmod in to 6970 - best DX11 cards ever made for their time

in my opinion every mobile card sucks : p

jk, i like the nvidia 9800GTS 1GB/6970 2gb for their prices/performance

 

Lets not turn this into an nvidia vs ati debate plz. That's one horse that's beaten to dust.

 

And yet, people are always quick to point out ATI's issues without acknowledging that Nvidia has had some very serious issues too...

As others have said, it really has been beaten to death already, especially on the desktop side, but why people still need to bring it up to spread FUD is beyond me

Anyways, back on topic... right now, officially, it seems we only have the 560M as a confirmed GPU on the way to the notebook market, but still no clue when or if it will actually be offered to AW

 

They have SLIGHTLY better power consumption, looking at www.anandtech.com's power graph:



I would expect it to be slightly better.

 

Slightly better power consumption at the same time as considerably better clocks

They will always max out the power envelope given to them, now you just get more performance for that power. Meaning at comparable clocks a power savings will be enjoyed

 

5-10% max extra, hardly enough to write home about.

 

If the price difference is not too much, that 5-10% is more than welcome

 

As long as it can run Battlefield 3 maxed, it's all good in the neighborhood.

 

This new card from ATI sounds interesting.

Any idea how competitive it will be?

 

If it's the 6870 desktop downclock made for mobile.. pretty beastly. We're talking desktop 5850 power in a mobile card

That said, it's all speculation at this time

 

There is already a thread on getting "reference" drivers from AMD to work in the "brand new" M18x's. No need to go into it, that says enough right there.

BUT for those having problems, or simply wanting to help out others in need, that would be the place to go. Arguing about it here won't fix anything.

 

when will the nda lift for gtx 560m? any ideas?

i really think there is no need for gtx 580m or 6990m now because my intuition tells me if they are released in late june then amd and nvidia both will delay their 28nm mobile parts to a yr as gtx 580m ~ almost a downclocked gtx 560 ti and 6990~ a downclocked 6870 so they are really powerful for laptops to last a yr for the next upgrade

also 570m if nvidia releases what will it product position be?

1. 580m vs 6990m
2. 570m vs 6970m??
3. 560m vs ????

that will make the 485m completely obsolete and both amd and nvidia is ignoring the high end entry level gpus which are of 460m range for eg. there will be a huge diff between 560m and 570m/580m.

I really hope 560m is a 288 core 192 bit gpu that will be a nice speed bump and for amd they should release 800 sps 256 bit gddr5 card on asus/msi like they did in 2010 with 5870m or maybe put the 6950m in the retail units

 

28nm products will be released as soon as the process exists to make them.

560M seems to be an OCed 460M.

 

Not everybody is on the same timeline. There are some who buy every new machine to come out and don't keep a laptop for more than 6 months, but others like myself are still using the 260ms so we're looking forward to the 5XXms as the 460ms are a year old. Others will wait for the 28nm products because the 5XX series isn't a justifiable enough boost. Yet another group will buy both.

Releasing the 5XX series might push back the 28nm products, but that's not definite, just as new models of stuff come out every year, even if the previous model of whatever is still more than good for the next decade.

 

Laptop parts from nvidia are typically about 4-6 months behind desktop parts, do not expect 28nm mobile parts for a long time