M17 General Information Thread

Overdrive is a vbios thing, nothing to do with the system bios

 

this is great. How did you attach the mesh to the bottom of the case?
Are there any guidesin how to do this?

 

du to an incident with the original stuff alienware use as thermal paste i just replaced AW stock thermal paste with my thermal right chill factor tube and for now idlle temperature seem a bit worst then stock
how ever idlle temperature without the back and a cooler are better then the ones i had when doing the same with AW original stuff

and under load temp also seem better i'll look into upgrading to AS5 later but for now this does the job


this pic of cooling mod and seing my gpu temp going under 50 deg for the first time with a cooler i might try to build a custom back pannel with a cooler integrated

 

i just used a dremmel tool, and got some mesh and made it work

 

Maybe this helps:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...formation-thread-post5941087.html#post5941087

 

Wow that's a great job. That's exactly what I'm after. Now Need to grab a drill.

 

nice i never saw you tuto DHC nice i'm starting to get the material to build one with aditional fans integrated

 

how will you power the fans?

 

through the usb
two of my usb port had thier plastic part damaged i can still plug someting in it but i fear that long therm use of them i might distord the metal connector when plugin something in so i'll try to build a custom connector that will stay in and to resolder the other by some kind of way

(if some one knows of a 90 deg usb connector that would be sweet)

 

hum i just found this project quite interesting i'll look if i can adapt it to my lapy form factor also it gives me the solition to try to modify the M17 alien head to it has RGB suport and not just blue

http://www.instructables.com/id/Color-Changing-Digital-PC-Fan-Controller/step2/Parts-List

 

i tired to do this but the material that DHC used is virtually impossible to find in the Us with the correct thickness. hopefully someone else can find it, but i look for 2 weeks and had no luck and had to settle for mesh

 

bad news my project also planed on using the same .....



any one know what is powering the alien head on the back pannel? cause the new owner has a project that could allow me to change the alien head at will and could be USB powered but if i could use the power that is used on this as it won't be needed anymore it would be even better


EDIT i found it back on that forum http://www.tech-forums.net/pc/f10/summer-project-fanbus-digital-pc-fan-led-system-231615/ let's just hope he will answer

 

its connected to usb power on the MB. as for the metal on the back cover the thickness is an issue, if you get it to thick it will look ridiculous and you will have to get longer screws. that s assuming you can even find something similar.


ALSO i still need a m17, someone who is not crazy please pm with an offer to sell if interested.

 

nice thanks for the info let to know if i can have data going through that connexion i'll make tests later


sad you missed there where some preatty sick offers on ebay like a m17 for 500$ and well speced one for 1100

 

i won the one for $500, guess what? he said "oh i need to get more i want $1200 for it" people are WAY overvaluing a dead system imo, if it had x-fire wuxga, 4gb ram & a x9100 it would be worth 1200, but it has wxga+ single 3870, & p8400(lol) and 1gb of ram, $500 was a stretch if you ask me.

but regardless i need one so i was willing to overpay for the thing and now he wont sell it me. awsome ebay!

 

righ no wonder the guy never answered my question about the lappy's specs


when i was talking about qx and cfx 4850

 

so keep your q9000 & 4850s and sell me the rest of yours for $700 =)

 

lol noway i intend to brake mandrake's record befor selling it back and if i suceede the lappy's price will be gone through the roof

 

well good luck.....

 

Breaking his record wont boost your price......since a Stock M17x R2 can easily challenge a loaded M17

 

at this point i guess that the fact that i can run a quand and dual 4850 at the same time stable no stutering or anything won't help me get a better price -.-

 

well if you were to sell it with the 4850s then its worth more than a m17 with the 3870s, but the q9000 is worth less than a t9600 buy about $100. i suppose its worth whatever you want it to be, i think eventually you could sell it for what ever you wanted withing reason, ive seen old m7700s get $900 on ebay in the recent past. so i wouldn't think it impossible to get $1600 for your system if you were willing to wait...but the bare bones its self isn't worth any more than $700 imo, but then again i don't think your trying to sell it anyway so sorry for the de-rail =)

 

I call shotgun if you'll sell the 4850s on their own.

I own a system like the one that you said can go for $1200 (x9100, 4GB, 160HDD, 1980x1200 and xfire 3870).

I'm waiting for an extra bottom cover to mod it like DHC so if all goes well I'll be running a wee bit cooler and will also have an extra stock bottom.

 

LOL no i'm not selling until CES 2011 and by then my system will have a QX9300 a ssd 8gb of ram and 1tb raid so it beter get a decent price i won't strip that bayby apart LOL and won't let it be striped apart

(with a little luck it might comme with a home made version of alien FX and a back cover including fans ...... + 1 stock back cover in case i sreww up)

ihope a such build will be worth more then 1.6k by then if not well tobad i'll just keep it


EDIT i just found back the intel XTU program i had i'm experimenting with down clocking and undervolting ... it looks like our dear alien mother ship and zfactor over estimated the need for voltage i'm actualy down to 1.0875 from the 1.2 of z and the 1.1625 of AW and perfectly stable i'll tryh to push it farther down later


EDIT2 : now down to 1 V



EDIT 3 i got into flashing my card lately and playing with the down clocking ... i also played with the over clocking i don't recal how far mandrake pushed his gpu mem but mine goes really far i also found that we can't set the 4850 clock to what the m17x 4870 clock is ment to be it just crash but you can go past it


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the peak is playing crysis at 40 FPS my cpu is also overclocked and undervolted sory z but it seem even with a 200 mhz overclock your voltage were still way to high

and as of yet i'm stil stutter and slow down free

 

an other m17 up on ebay but the *&%? won't ship to canada

 

Is there a reliable source/shop to grab a bottom cover for the M17

 

Yes:
http://www.ztronics.com/en/m17-r1.html

 

nice the two usb port that died are part of the audio board so i can replace then without having to change the MOBO that is a good new

 

That is lucky lol

 

Very handy site, thanks

 

If I had seen that site when I had my whitebook I would have made it into an M17 and probably kept it lol

 

You are welcome

It's an awesome site indeed , nearly impossible to find parts on the web but these guys got everything and ship internationally also.

 

Hmm looks like " Ztronics " have a Ebay store also called zforce1

 

Just got my bottom cover but it appears that alienware made some changes to it compared to the OCZ one. The screws are in different places and the vents are also different.

I got another idea though. I'll try to make the bottom cover completely out of mesh. I had a small piece lying around and the screws seem to fit and secure through it. If I can find a large enough piece I'll try both ways (DHC way and full mesh cover way).

 

The bottom cover for the M9750 and the M17 are the same shape but as you noticed, have different screw and vent locations

I found this out as well when I had mine

 

Boot from mini PCIe SATA SSD in laptop - General-Storage - Storage

so here is the deal why we could not get our standar laptop to boot from pcie so it looks liek i'll have to wait until thr drives are availible



whoot 42c is the ambian temp here i'm so hapy i applyed thermal paste and did my undervolting experiment just in time my laptop is hovering his ambian temp only 8 deg higher then the ambian


once again can some one send me the voltage that the b14 bios suply to the CPU messed with it and i think i'm to far




EDIT i experimented with the m17 alienFX keyboard good news provided sone would be willing to (i'm with the dead one i have heheheh) we can mod the conector to plug into arduino and make it display any color we wan by mixing the values

just need to get the arduino nano board i ordered and the other RGB Dels i ordered to get the custom m17 alienFX project to work i'll write a nice and clean tutorial when it will be done as well as providing the software to make it work

 

i have a spare 3870 slave card & x-fire cable & m17 battery, any intrest?

 

Is it a New Battery or used ?
How much you want for it ?

 

the batery could have interested me but AW is adrealy sending one to me for free

the 3870 might interest me how much?

 

all the parts are in the market place, if you want to look i cant cross post though. the battery is unused, i got it for my m17 but i never used the one that was in it, so it just sat in my bag, i forgot i had it TBH.

 

How much do you want for the Battery
If your really interested in selling

pm me asap

 

I found this http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...unlock-core-2-extreme-multiplier-windows.html on this forum.

So, without flashing our M17 bios to the OCZ/z-factor bios, we are still able to overclock our Extremes CPU? Anyone tried it yet? How's the performance?

 

It worked great for me on my M17x R1, I see no reason it will not work in an M17. Feel free to try it out, it wont damage your system

 

humm whats the last driver to support the M17 guys ?

I have been trying man and well I am not having much luck

 

what u mean by "last driver to support" ? graphic card driver or the BIOS ?

 

what driver Moo? Video?

 

yes the GPU, i figured that was understood sorry

 

well they are in the inf for mobility 10.6's from ATI but they have a M76 tag not M88, guess they use the same settings?

 

I am going to use the M15x modified ones ... The M17 I have is being a real pain to get CCC to uninstall

I kid you not when it says

"the windows installer service could not be started becuase it was not installed correctly please try reinstalling it".

 

Wow that is harsh. Did you try uninstalling it through the driver install package and not through programs and features?