M17 OC Benchmarking - The Next Generation!

Not yet, but rebuilding my machine as we speak. Just re-did my copper mod with new 99.8% silver tp. Gonna update to .29 bios aswell. NO STUTTER SO FAR

I'll re-run 06 and vantage after

3.1ghz I think when I ran that (some fsb and multi's at 11.5)

 

Damn. I sure am missing my old 9300 when it comes to benchmarking. My X9100 blows it out of the water in anything real-world though.

 

I'll do more testing with the T9900 when I get more thermal paste. I believe the tests z and I are doing is much different than everyday gaming on these systems. I don't game on the M17 since I have everything loaded up on my M17x.

 

yeah this is all a mess. the system i tested last night stuttered like crazy with the t9800 or the qx9300 with the 4850's but was fine with either cpu and the 3870's in crossfire...correct mandrake i know im pushing it and testing for things like voltage etc... not something an everyday user will do

 

Exactly. But we wouldn't be men if we didn't try to push things to their absolute limits. Someday systems will come to our doorsteps already running at the brink of destruction. Then I wouldn't waste hours and hours trying to squeeze just one more Mhz out of something. I'd just game.

 

Well that would be no fun.

 

No, it wouldn't. But I'm sure you know better than anyone around here how much time is involved in benchmarking. I could have finished at least one game in the time it's taken me to run benchmarks lately.

 

Yeah I just finished my star wars game and all the extras with it. I need to get working on Borderlands.

 

ill mess around more later and see if there is anything more to this.

 

Guys, prehaps post your vbios', i know there are currently more than 1 out for the 4850s for mobility.

Prehaps kcuk has a different (either old or newer vbios,)

 

i agree this may be something

 

Im running the older bios ver among the msi machines, i know there are alot of 4850s out there with new bios too, im hoping this is the issue with the m17s 4850s

 

What is your BIOS version?

I am running VER011.022.002.001.032332

 

may be there is a reason why AW stopped selling the 4850 upgrades in a very short period of time.

 

i know ocz said they were not getting involved with them a while back..

 

I hope to see Mandrake sort out the issues he's having and post some big numbers. This way I'll feel more confident throwing down the cash for the 4850s.

 

I'm running the same BIOS as DHC and having problem with stuttering. Lower the voltage to 1.2v and it didn't help

 

Same Vbios as DHC also
and i'm stutter free on b14 and on .29 now that i have found the right voltage

shinj try undervolting the cpu to 1.1625v it did the trick for me
if you feel the stutter again go down a bit again if you feel the slowdown go up a bit until you reach you specific ideal voltage

 

Sorry, but undervolting is a huge turn off for me. Hopefully this isn't the only way to get a stable system with the 4850s.

 

I think you have one of the newer ones,

Im running Ver011.016.000.020.031382

But then mines MSI Branded i believe.

we need some more aw 4850 users to post. (if any.)

 

actualy i have bneen forced to undervolt on .29 because the value zfactor pu in it where to high for my specific case i had to put back the value of b14 who where lower then thoses of .29

 

I can post tomorrow.

 

For all the stuttering quad users, why not just sell your quads and buy an extreme dual core cpu?

 

Actually the T9900 I have was for the M17 but I want to benchmark before switching.

 

Yes granyte Im on 1.1625v and it seems to be the most stable after lotsa testing. Also, can you run the DPC latency checker because it shows a lot of red bars even when I'm not stuttering.

 

agree there is alot more red bars then on b14 but i think it's due to the intel XTU service

edit : or just that i'm in the room my wireless lan qualitie is worst and the damned card is searching for the network

 

i can turn down the voltage if you guys want but the way it is now it will use whatever the hardware requires. hence the reason you need to lower the card itself to the lower voltage settings

 

you mean lower the card or cpu voltage?

 

well i can not adjust the voltage of the gpu's directly in the bios. i can set the cpu to a limit though

 

Ya Z definitely try lowering the voltage to the lowest it can go. Screw overclocking I just want a stable machine now

 

can it be made so every one can set it for it self cause i have no longer any issue since i put my right voltage and i would find it a shame to be limited from ocing if i get a qx

 

no offense Mandrake just got frustrated by the stuttering issues.

 

I did have a backup of my bios

 

just do as i said if you are still stuteriing keep going down bit by bit until you are ok or you hit cpu slowdown you could find your most stable setting without having zfactor to put a limit in bios

 

yeah that was the whole reason for not limiting it so it can be easily adjusted either way if need be. shin remember this if i limit it on the top end i also have to add a lower end limit to so it may be hard to find the sweet spot

 

Dang, then it cant be the vbios, i assume this is running on both the cards then?

Hmm to look elsewhere....Does the m17 have any options for PCI Latency, could try trying to loosen them a bit.

 

Here's more info. What tools are there for PCI. With the M17x I can use NST, what about this system?

 

run some cpu test to see if your cpu is causing it. Like wprime and other things. Or if or run vantage and 06 and see if the cpu test or the gpu is affected.

 

run linx 6.04 with max ram and see what the gflops are...

 

Almost certainly sure that Wprime95 trigger the stutter in my case.

 

who are you guys talking to? lol!

My 4850s are out of commission until tomorrow.

 

Hmm, guess theres not to much we can do from the vbios, everything seems sound.

What about inside the m17's bios, i know some machines have both northbridge configuration and pci settings from there (mines one of them.) but i dont know so much about the m17 since i've never owned one hehe .

 

Has anyone done benchmarks with just a single 4850?

 

Any links to good Price on 4850
Alienware doesnt have it

has any got them on the m17 ?

 

Single 4850 run everything stocked @ 1280x800


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is crossfire unsupported in 3dmark ? I got almost the same score with my crossfire 4850 =.="

 

Nah, but 3dmark is not a real test for your GPU, apparantly it is more of a CPU test (or so i've heard).

Try vantage and compare those with eachother.

 

Post your score, you should be higher with XF. You have a qx9300?

 

i can jack up the pci stuff or turn it down, but you really should not go below 100 and anything over about 105 you can cause damage to your drives etc... i am just asking for trouble with my wife's desktop i run her pci bus at 115