M17 OC Benchmarking - The Next Generation!

yes e-wrecked was worried about this and hdd corruption in the ocz forum with the whitebook if I remember correctly.

 

its usually easier to achieve a higher overclock with the bus synced to the fsb. most desktop mobo's either run async'ed or they allow you to set the pci bus. on my wife's asrock board i upped the pci clock to where i knew i could set her e8500. she is running the e8500 at 3.9 on a 35$ asrock mobo.. simply awesome. but with the bus at 115 to get it fully stable im always a bit worried about the drives

 

nice info. Z. Can you do a quick write up on that with my m17x to see if I can achieve a higher overclock. I can set my pci-e with nst so I don't know if that will help. I also notice that playing with my ram also helps/hurts my overclock.

 

yeah let me match up the speeds some to give you a idea of where to go with pci vs fsb. ill try to get it done tonight. if not ill post it up tomm.

 

You called Alienware and they said they don't have any? That sucks. I will be in the market for a set real soon.

 

mandrake,
This is my score, yea I have a qx9300.... hmm yea, it seems that I got like 1k higher... not double the score ? lol

 

Nodeffect, you got any Vantage runs? My 3870s/X9100 score ~15.2K. I think Vantage is more for GPUs.

 

Yeah that score looks normal. It's not close to the 11K score.

 

All my best runs with the whitebook were with the pci-e bus at 107 or 108

set using setfsb by the way

 

Changing the PCI on the M17x has yielded very little.

 

yea, on the first page in this thread. Tell me what you got on vantage.

 

For me changing it at all was very unstable

 

even at 108 you are getting close to asking for trouble... one day your hdd may not spin up.. or the dvd drive etc....

 

Yeah dont mess too much with the PCI speeds, its worth taking a look at pci latency timer though, making sure thats at optimal speed can yield some small time performance gain (pretty much negligible) but can have some effects on the other hardware too.

 

Yeah, there's the difference. I only score 7.3K with a heavy OC on my CPU/GPU. Your GPUs score ~40% higher than mine. I like it. Hopefully I can get a hold of a pair of these 4850s.

 

I never had any issues with the PCIe overclock but was skittish haha

 

not really damage...maybe data corruption...but that's really about it.
after 105 you start losing things like your network port...after about 112 some ssd's start to act funny after about 117...allot of computers wont boot correctly or the drives will dissapear then reappear or the cpu will reset it's self or the momory will reset it's self....and for the lucky few...you can get as high as 125 to about 130..but anything after 112 or so isn't really helping...looks good on the pcie over clock resume though...lol

 

i have seen drives actually damaged from to high of a pci bus like malfunction and not work again

 

With $500 hdd let's not attempt it.

 

they are up to like 5.5 ghz with that chip and 6.5 ghz with the e8600 cpu...got any of those laying around?? e8600's i need to start benching, so i can get the high numbers....probably not on a 35 dollar board though.lol maybe a 150 dollar one...lol

and i run 116 all day on any board..but it's not always beneficial to even go that high...5 mhz over seems to satisfy about 90 percent of the world...but what it really helps is a slower moving vga card. and some say it's to help the cpu over clock...can't really say that's true because i got just as high without to find the real answer....but i did notice my vga scores we're lower....(still a work in progress...lol)

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no one should be over clocking the pci though??? that is really old skool....lol

 

i never said not to oc it at all lol... just i have seen so many times corrupt drives etc from it being set to high. especially on the whitebook it didnt like anything over 107-108 at all

 

ya had me nervous...it said pci so i was thinking you we're talking about that...lol...mah bad!
i know you zfactor....you have an e8600..don't you? you wouldn't lie to your friend over here in the states...now would ya?...lol
humm, not sure why i thought you we're in the uk... . when i see your in the states yourself.

 

So i take it all your all pasted up and ready to try and rock m17 are ya drake?

 

as soon as ups comes

 

Ahh good to know man, i've been messing around with different configurations to try and cause stuttering, and it appears anything that tries to interact with the temp sensors (even clocks being refreshed on and off) will cause a very big stutter (Points to gpu-z so far) and means results are very inconsistant.

 

Well I just reinstalled them and ran 3DMark06, scored 13K stock and it looked ok. Going to see if I can OC the system now.

Biggest difference now is I'm running under Vista instead of Win 7.

 

I ran it at 3.2Ghz and I score 13889 but lost 300 points on the CPU. I did NOT see ANY stuttering but you can see the CPU tests run slower.

 

Thats really interesting, however it is good that the stuttering has ceased for now

 

It's got to be a power issue. I can't explain it otherwise. They seem to run fine stock under Vista but I haven't tried gaming on them.

 

Hmm, have you tried furmarking or OCCTing to really stress power demand on the card?

Atleast then we can definately confirm if its a complete power issue, although would be very strange if they worked flawlessly with one of these burn tests.

(If i recall OCCT scaled SLI 100% according to the nvidia tool.)

 

No but I did one better. I put in my T9900 and scored over 1K more stock. Assuming my QX9300 hasn't gone bad I think it proves that it's a power issue. Going to test the QX9300 in my M17x right now.

Edit: Back to back runs, the second one was 100 points higher. So there's some consistency.

Edit2: Just scored 17.4K with the QX9300 in the M17x. Nothing is wrong with it.

 

The first pic is the QX9300 at 3.2Ghz. The second pic is the T9900 stock. Case closed.

 

Do you have any Vantage runs?

 

I'll do that next

 

Indeed, that is extremely strange, lets see if the vantage runs have some fairly sound results.

 

Here is Vantage at stock. Just 300 Point short of the 280s.

 

Mandrake by power option you mean the 4850s and Quad are too much for m17? I'm getting stutter even with single 4850s and Quad. How about 3870s and QX9300, no problem so far?

 

Oooh nice, thats quite nice to see theres a fair bit of power behind the 4850's

 

Yes, the combo of the QX9300 (or possibly ANY 45W proc) with the 4850s.

With the 3870s and the QX9300 I hit 18.2K in 3DMark06 and had a cpu score around 5600 so I had no issues with them. Is your issues in gaming or benchmarks?

 

my lastes vantage run stock



dual 4850 and q9000 perfectly stable no stuter or slowdown

 

I am so getting those damn cards.

 

Which drivers are you using?

 

9.12 hotfix

 

Yea no stutter with stocked speed and it start to stutter when I overclock. Can you check your QX9300 + 3870s combo by doing DPC latency checker and running Wprime95 see if get any red bars. And also, check it with QX9300 and single 4850 to see if there's any red bars. If you still getting stutter with QX9300 and single 4850 then we're in the same boat ^^

 

I can but not today. Not going to to another proc switch today. Plus I am now contemplating selling the system. If it's just another gaming system I really don't need it.

 

Ya need your help to pin point the problem. If not I can just order a pair of 3870s from Alienware and enjoy a stutter free + overclocked environment. PM me your results. Thanks

 

hum wierd it seem the 4850 don't like fsb overclock at all or is it 3dmark i just did a run oced to 2097 and my cpu score went down 200 while my gpu went up 200 that don't really make sence the only thing that was slower was physix else verything was faster

 

You GPU score is still a bit low, you should hit easily over 10k with 9.12.

 

My q9000 is holding me back i would prob hit that wiith even a p8600

 

yup as i said all along its the voltage issues. the system just cant supply the needed voltage across the board. you just see it more with the quad due to it needed that much more power. the power section of this mobo is a flat out joke. its not wonder why. i pretty much see the same things are mandrake. ive done everything i can think of and just cant find any other causes. this has been proven with a meter and a scope also. ive watched the drops they border on dangerously low actually. so be careful if you are pushing crazy hard to not damage your cpu or cards