M17/Ocz Whitebook Quad Problems

Yes, that is exactly it.

I had a IBM Lenovo t61p that had 2 sticks of ram, and when it got hot or when you loaded the cpu up there was such a voltage drop that it would POWER OFF, kinda like you pulled the plug and battery out!

Except here, we are able to sustain voltage just not enough, it the voltage drop cause the cpu to down clock and stuter.

i have not prof of this, but its a hunch, has a computer engineer i say im right.

 

your a king. i will give you rep points.


next, you goto north pole to run a POS laptop ?

 

How much will you do your brothers for ?

I mean, lol, how much for a shim? how manny do we need, ??

 

lol what's up. i see your reading alot. check out a thread called project freeze. it's in the first post it's more dedicated to cooling of the notebook where as this thread focused on the stuttering.

 

Ok,

I have read each post so far,

I am s s s s s - stutering, and I want to get some silver for this hardware mod

I dont know what thickness i need to order !!

Please help me find what exact thickness i need !!

Thank you.

 

I have the OCZ version of this laptop,

Will the M17 new bios work with mine?

 

Click on Donda's Project Freeze link in the post above yours, its in there somewhere.

There is absolutely no reason in the world to do this, you'll lose the ability to OC among other things.

 

this is stupid ive complained to alienware and i everyone on here should do also about this problem even if you havent a quad, because maybe one day you would like to put a quad in the laptop but whats the point if it wont work correctly, bit like buying a porche but it rattling if you go over 70mph itl work but its not right......you would take it back right!!!!


just everyone just start hammering a/w with emails because as it is these laptops are not fit for purpose, you cannot upgrade to quad and use it as its meant to be used, i.e multitasking and games with out stuttering.

so this means its faulty and not fit for purpose.

i think its the only way a/w arima or whoever will do anything substantial about it..... me persoanlly i think they cannot up the power due to insufficiant power supply available to the unit.

 

i recommend copper. read in projec freeze and you will see why. i've been busy/lazy to right a guide of how to do the copper mod sorry guys. just take massive pictures of your laptop and the heatsink and give me alittle and i'll do it. the pictures has to be crystal clear though.

as marvie said the alienware bios is garbage if you have an extreme cpu

correct.

well ocz drop the whitebook so no matter how much emails you send they don't care. alienware is focused on the M17x so they don't have time to care.

if you want to start something start emailing flextronics. there's the ones with the faulty heatsink design.

 

let me check on the copper stock and see how much my machine guy will charge me to dice them up..

 

DO NOT USE SILVER use copper

 

Resurrecting this to attempt to provide more info:

 

I'd definetely like to see the result of that. Especially if it ends up improving the stuttering itself, not just the sound stuttering.

 

Well it didn't take long to confirm that using the X-Fi Notebook ExpressCard instead of the onboard sound does NOT in fact eliminate any stuttering. I was quite dissappointed to hear my X-Fi card go scratchy and sounds stuttering with fps drops in both WoW and Crysis.

Only issue I have with the X-Fi, is that after installing the drivers, I get a rundll error on bootup. I suspect Windows is having a problem loading the task manager icon or whatever for the X-Fi card. I'm still attempting to troubleshoot that. Sound quality was great though (when it wasn't getting scratchy due to stuttering).

 

My next troubleshooting step is to install the X9100 in this rig and test that out for a while. We'll see how it goes. If I still have issues my last and final step before calling AW to complain that I can't even play simple games on this gaming laptop without issues is to try the OCZ .28 BIOS. I already have it installed on a bootable USB stick. I want to try the X9100 out first to see how I like it though.

 

the audio issue is a combo of a few things.. there has been no single one fix for it.. i used to sell the ocz's believe me i tried

 

Reverted back to B10 BIOS as B14 was drastically worse off. At least with B10 BIOS I can put it to High Performance Power Profile and play for a while.

 

Just curious, have you tried the copper modding/project freeze on it?


Not to be the bearer of bad news but why not sell it while you still can and get the M17x. I did, and couldn't be happier? Even though my M17 had no issues, and was rock solid... OK, no more of that.

 

No.
1. Where I am I don't really have access to the resources required to do so.
2. I was more intested in trying methods which are the least intrusive, and don't require me to (replace with original parts before sending in for repair) first. I've just now exhausted all of those resources, so next step is the X9100 install. I don't really do anything that needs 4 cores anyway. Pmanuk tried the copper mod, but then took it out because his temps were higher then before. He also is not having any issues, but i suspect thats because he's using the .28 OCZ BIOS.

 

well we used all the different methods that you are trying and it didn't work. the copper mod might raise your north bridge up by 2-3degrees but thats it.

remember you are trying to cover the surface area of the northbridge.

 

I really dont know what I did, but I havent had any stuttering for awhile now.

It used to get real bad in games like prototype. Usually at the beginning and then it would stop, but now its been gone for awhile. knock knock.

I also bought a fan cooler. So that could have helped because it dropped my temps by 10c or more.

 

I've had my M17 sitting on a Zalman NC-2000 cooler ever since I've owned it.

AW BIOS? If so, what version? Or OCZ .28 BIOS to OC?

 

personally i would get the .28 bios its working really well for me

re the copper mod i think i have a heatsink that just sits flush nicely so no need for the copper mod.

Now if i can fit a freezer unit to my cpu thats another story

at stock on my desk under load around 78-80 at 3.2 under load about 90-92 just for the record

the north bridge gets to about 82-83

 

Im using B13 with 9.6 64 bit vista

 

what is on your northbridge now?
thermal paste or a pad?

at least get a pad.

 

ive just got AS5 on mine

 

and your fine with no stuttering at all

 

I'll let you know once I finally open it up for the first time to put in the X9100.
Pmanuk has no stuttering with OCZ's BIOS and no copper mod.

 

then you have a pad if you never opened it up.

 

I think I have stuttered twice both time during benching at unstable clocks but I can't be sure if it was the north bridge or south bridge as the CPU was loaded at 99 degrees on 3 cores

 

If you can't play a simple game (on your gaming laptop) because your system CPU is maxed out at 100% and grinds the game to almost a standstill, thats the stuttering I'm referring to.

 

Hi All,

I think I find a temp. solution.I was having this shuttering issue, I notice its happened after I restart the system when its hot, but when I start it when it cold I will never have shuttering I will play games forever with no problems,

So I figure some way to fix this problem, I will shutdown the laptop then remove the power supply and wait for 1 minute, then start the system.
That is it no more shuttering after these steps.
And please note I removed the battery of laptop.

 

We have already found that unplugging and replugging AC adapter will stop stuttering. But we wish to eliminate to begin with. So it never happens at all. And sadly, no one has been able to do this successfully (no solution that has worked across several systems that is)

 

If I bought an X9100 will it fix the problem for surd??

 

The dual core chips dont seem to have any issues related to this, from what I've read, several people here went from a quad to a dual and reported thier problems vanished.

 

I have many problem me too.I have a Q9200 stock and after 15 minute in UT3 my FPS drop from 62 to 20 and in Fear 100 fps drop to 10 fps.

I have run Prime 95 and after 20 minute temps are that

Minimum/Max ¸

TZ00 56/98

Core0 53/82
Core1 53/82
Core2 51/81
Core3 52/85

it normal ?

 

Well it is normal stuttering, we do not know why it is happening at this point. Normal would ideally mean NO stuttering.....but in your case, yes that is normal for what can be expected from a quad core in these notebooks

 

your northbridge is way to hot. it should be no more then 6 degrees higher then your cpu. what do you have there?

 

I have a Q9200 at 2.4GHz only, how to drop my NB temp ?

Can I do RMA for that ? I have buy my laptop for play for every day not 10 minute maximum ...

 

Retracted. I see it now. I was looking at it as if it was DegC/Deg F

 

I think he probably meant 6c from the max temp and not idle temp marvie.

But yea NB temps are a bit too high than usual in this case.

 

your nb should be near your cpu.

please just check the NB/CPU temps. i just pulled random pictures that i had from my collection. so don't worry about anything else.

 

you could do an rma, but the new one will have the same problem with quads, manufacturers do not know why it is happening either.

 

I have downclocked the FSB to 240MHz for reduce temp of NB but nothing to do.

This screen is after 5 minute of UT3 detail Low.Always 10 degree more on the NB

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Edit: Prime 95 after 5 minute of blend test only

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Woah, your CPU shouldn't even be hitting those temperatures. Mine doesn't hit 80C even when overclocked.

However, there's a reason for that and I'd recommend it to you. Try undervolting it. I run mine on 1.163V instead of 1.275V. It really helps to knock down the temps.

 

he doesn't need to undervolt it something is wrong with it.

i highly suggest for you to pull off the back and if you are not scared to reapply some thermal paste to your cpu and northbrigde.

 

i also vote thermal paste

 

The northbridge uses a thermal pad.

Perhaps there's something up with his thermal pad. The NB runs hot but not THAT hot.

 

yeah i know it use a pad. i had one remember. and i mentioned it earlier.

 

You said reapply paste to the CPU and northbridge. You can't 'reapply' paste if it doesn't have any in the first place, and the only way to paste it is with a sheet of copper in the middle.