M17/Ocz Whitebook Quad Problems

no i mean less stick = less heat because less parts puting out heat....

its liek 2 heaters instad of one .... IMO ... might not be true though so dont hold me to it

 

Mr.moo could test it for you right now and let you know . Take your highest peaked temps with and without one stick . Running 1 gig though might be a bit rough in vista .

 

Does anyone here run SSD's and a quad in their rig?

I know they produce much less heat.

They also consume less voltage.

 

hellcry has a sdd but he didn't like it.

true.


does anyone think the settings of the ram may affect way the cpu is getting data. (not saying the ram is bad but bios isn't perfect as we all can tell.)

 

its not going to be a huge difference the ram does not get that hot and it may help a bit but nothing substantial..heat wise i mean

 

well it wont drop the whole notebooks temp but maybe just the north bridge

 

yeah the north brigde is still a big question. so i need halogod and me to test this out the ram to determine if this is a problem also. (i hoped it was the speed instead of two sticks. 4gb of ddr3 is alot. like 400 dollars. i think i like my stuttering more.)

 

Something worthwhile to note:

In all my times coming across this problem in the tech support lines, I've never EVER heard of somebody with an SSD and a Quad who had the issue. Hence my original culprit was the 7200RPM drive and/or its controller.

My €.02

 

im with ya

..... well i would let some one test with my SSD ..... but i would really have to trust them ...

 

no i have a 5400@rpm. but the ssd i don't know. we need hellcry to test his ssd.

 

you have me and zfactor. i am not going to run off with it, i have better stuff to do with my life. and i know zfactor he is cool and he wouldn't do that either. everyone else that have this problem isn't online so i don't know.

 

lol but the other thing is i love it .....

i remeber the raid issue as well could it be the HD produce less heat?

could try one HD and 1 stick of RAm then see if that helps ...

 

i have a couple vertex ssd here waiting for customers i can prob ask one of them to test one out..

 

ok. i would love the ssd to.

the thing is hellcry is using raid and his issues are solved(i just remembered.)

he has two seagates at 7200 raid 0. this issue is getting me mad.

 

he reapplied thermal paste lol you need to do they same thing

if it falls through with Z don i will let you
test ? ok ?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=380527
axman is selling his notebook. i gotta get him here before it is to late.

 

he didn't respond unless we are all attacking him.

 

Hey i just needed 15 mins to go through all the new posts... i agree with zfactor that ram isnt the culprit but test it out anyway.. did you test the fan idea yet Dondadah? And if you decide to change the thermal paste use mx-2.. i used it and its perfect - cools nicely, easy to apply and wipe off, you cant mess up with it since it is silicone based and doesnt conduct electricity like as5, and it doesnt need time to set in and lasts much longer than as5 (is said to be 5 years). And regarding the ssds.. i stuttered with them all.. raided and not so it doesnt help.. trust me its not the harddrives ive had a collection of them here.
And good news. I got a company to sell me the heatsink (without the fan sadly and very expensive (100€ - i hope ill be able to attach the fan to it myself - hopefully its possible) and ill cut it up when i get it and post the results.

 

i had to rush to school but i am going to.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/r...terface_Material-Page1.html?id=YoSEPoQ9#blank
this is what someone else recommended to me.

 

I do search on google there're so many types of the memory heat spreader. I keep searching for the one with best performance. I don't know if the heat of memory could spread to gpu and cpu.
just found one: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7...book_Memory_Heat_Spreaders.html?tl=g40c18s236

 

whats up? never had any heat problems with my whitebook.

 

really what was your temps with alot of gaming with and without the cooler. are you stuttering.

 

lmao(tennnnn)

 

max ive hit with the CPU @ 3.07 is around 74C. max for the video card is 84 C with total war maxed out. ive also polished my heat sinks, and modified the gpu's heatsink with some small copper heatsinks and arctic silver adheasive paste.. Im at 43C average right now with several tabs open aim running and a few other small background programs

 

also i have no stutter issues with the SSD. only issue i have is the same windows issue ive always had with vista- long time to shut down.

 

great thanks for the info and can you list your system specs, your os. and what drivers you use. just gathering info.

can you take pictures of your copper mod?

 

There's one for the SSD camp + QX9300 that doesn't s s s s s stutter!

 

lol Rob you deserve rep for that post without a doubt

 

just so you all know mx-2 = ocz freeze.. its the same stuff..

 

okay dropped a vertex ssd in and im reinstalling tonight ill let you know what happens.

memory timings had no effect same results with either ram at stock or don's posted setting with 2 sticks. as i said it was better with only one stick but not totally gone

 

i am home so i am installing 3dmark vantage and farcry2 and 3dmark06 patch and then start doing some test. it will take a while but i will return and post everything that i am doing on one post.

edit: ok you tested out the ram. i am going to see if i can cut my usb and use that for a fan and see what happens.

 

then it does sound like a north bridge issue because it did help to take 1 stick out

 

i am looking at the fan and i don't really want to strip the wire. if anyone has a suggestion. let me know. otherwise i guess i have to.

 

zfactor since you tried different ram speeds and one and two sticks. out of 0-100 percent. so you think the ram is a major culprit. or something is causing it to act up. or do you need more research or want me to test something.

 

im going to say at this point i think it goes back to the northbridge. so far with the ssd its smooth sailing. no stuttering at all yet. i dont have all the drivers installed yet and i have not run 3dmark but so far windows itself is running smooth as silk. a very odd situation.

ram uses very little power so i am not sure if i would say at this point i think its a voltage issue and that is why the ram helped out or not yet. but i know for sure its not related to heat due to the ram. i tested the surrounding area with a laser therm. and i am seeing no difference in temps of the northbridge or cpu with one stick compared to 2

 

can you also test the southbrigde. i really don't want to buy a ssd. but if your fine and the ssd is working perfectly then i guess i have to. here is a run ccc not installed stocked win7 drivers nothing.

i am using 7077 x64 before i was using 7000.(very buggy and crap.)
i think i can break 16??? very easy. i am confindent.

 

im running vista sp2. ill look at the sb. so far im shocked at the difference. i have a ssd in my msi and i didnt really see much of a difference. but it does make a difference here. im betting its due to the power requirements more than anything though.

im sure you can break 16k..have you tried to see what you score with only one stick yet? just curious. i have to put my daughter to bed so it will be a while before i get 3dmark going on this

 

I've got an M17 with a couple of ssd's and I haven't had any issues with over heating or stuttering yet. I also have the thing set up on a laptop holder with a fan running underneath 24/7. I dont' play games, so can't say anything about performance with games. I've been very pleased. Only issue I've had was 64 bit software compatibility. I was told Roland had used the M17 with 64 bit OS to write drivers for their Fantom G8 keyboard. So I get the G8 and the M17 and then I'm told, the story was true but they decided not to follow through with the 64 bit drivers. Was about to downgrade to 32 bit OS when out of no where Roland writes me and says they've back tracked again and issued 64 bit drivers. So I'm very happy. Only one complaint and that is typing is rather difficult for some reason. I think it is the big space from the keyboard to the front edge of the M17 being larger than usual. But then again, I don't type all that much. but that is the only complaint I've got.

 

so far so good with the ssd.. im adding a second one now to see how that goes.

 

this computer is crazy and i am getting mad. i can rule out both because i just did a fresh install with my hdd and i am raided 0(i don't know why i went this route.) but i didn't stutter one bit in 3dmark.

ok this is what i did.
installed window 7 x64 7077
then i installed the chipset driver from intel's website(it's older but runs more stable then the one that came with the system) it is located on the 1st post.
install r222 and i was still stuttering up until this point.
I DISABLED THE INFERED(i spelt that wrong) because i read it in a different thread. thanks
and ran 3dmark nothing at all. not one stutter. i didn't get to try the usb fan because i wanted to see what i would get before and after. btw here is the new score

 

So if its tru that an SSD will fix the stuttering....im ordering one tonight from newegg.....please help confirm this more zfactor we appreciate ur help dude

 

halogod what os are you using? if win7 what build?

 

im just using vista 64bit

 

can you disable this and tell me your results. ssd's are heavy on the wallet right now.
don't reboot. it reinstall it but i want to see if it is doing something

 

i tried the above and still had the same issue...btw whats a good ssd right now to buy? plus if i use an ssd for the os and games and a mechanical hdd for storage im assuming that will cause stutter since both drives arent ssd

 

i will think so to. and you would have to buy for space also. i don't want to go down that root if it is going to cause so much.

 

well anyone have any input for some good ssd's? i know nothing about them

 

i really like the newest ocz vertex drives. ill run a bunch of tests tomm to see.. but im really suprised at how much better it seems to run just on everday use. windows are not jittery no wierd mouse movements etc...i for sure did not notice this big of a difference at all in the msi when i tried the ssd it really didnt seem that much different than the normal wd drive i had before so im still curious as to what is causing the difference in the flex over the other ones

i dont have normal drives installed right now don so i cant try what you asked. once i run some tests on these ssd's then i can reinstall the normal hdd's and try that.

i know that in one of the other systems i have had the cir drivers you are talking about did cause me a lot of grief and i just ran without them.. that was a clevo system.

 

Wait, so you are all finally assuming that the SSDs fix the shuttering on the Quad? or are you guys still waiting for further tests to confirm?

 

well i guess we have to wait and see. we are still waiting for more test. because again not everyone is stuttering and has the same or different parts.

btw do you know how to permenatlly disable the IR drivers. after reboot it installs again. there is no option to delete the driver.