M17 QX9300 stutter fixed for good

Hi so as title says, I’ve had this stutter for a year now, while not bad its gets really annoying at times, I did everything from cooling it to the copper mod and the only thing that worked was pressing FN+F10 and it stopped the stutter and switched the lights on the k/board off!

So the last thing left was buy a core 2 extreme X9100 with a copper mod and no more stutter, the QX9300 to be sold now.

The QX9300 got 5.9 in Vista but the X9100 gets 5.7 in Vista, would have thought it would hit 5.9.

What do other owners of X9100 get?

Oh and how do you show my sig in my posts?

Thanks

M17, QX9300, Dual ATI M88 XT HD3870 1GB Crossfire, 4GB DDR 3 ram, 2x 64GB Solid state drives in raid, AVERMEDIA TV TUNER. Blu-ray, Hi def screen.
M9700i with ATi M88 XT HD3870, T7600 2.33GHz, 4GB ram, 2x 200GB Seagate HD in raid.

 

Overclocked to 3.2, I get a 6.6 for the processor. Are you sure that you're not reading the WEI score wrong. It will take the score of the lowest component which is usually the hard drive.

 

You must have win 7 as Vista only scores upto 5.9max, Ive got 2x ssd's in raid score 5.9 the lowest is cpu.

Cpu is stock at 3.06GHz.

 

Yes stock is 3.06, but I have a stable over clock to 3.2 and yes I have Windows 7. It is worth the investment. It is much better than Vista.

 

the reason the keyboard off is stoping the stuter is because your laptop is not getting enough juce to run all the component it has and the kboard light just hapens to be the littl thign over the top

 

Talking about QX9300, where can i buy it cheap ?? (under $400).. prices in eBay are just insane, $1000+ (oem) and 500+ (QS).. thats crazy becase i7 920xm is under $400 and is way better than QX9300.

 

I may be wrong here but It will play COD 5 all day without a stutter, but I can play music and it will stutter, surely if it was not getting enough juice it would stutter bad when using both gfx cards playing games than just playing music, its worse when playing cpu intensive games like Men of War Red Tide than COD 5?

 

There are literally hundreds of threads about the M17 stutter, it's not fixable.

Mandrake proved it, it's a hardware/design flaw....sorry folks...

 

I knew it couldnt be fixed so tried everything to lessen the stutter to a level that was not too bad and to be fair it worked very well in some games, GTA 4 perfect no stutters, games like Men of War, music and films lots of stutter .....

so the QX9300 had to go, it runs perfect with the X9100, its like a different laptop!

Do the M17x R1 suffer the same stutter with the QX9300?

 

If you mean the Alien Ware Area 51 M17x than the answer is no, no stutters.

 

it's because when you'r not gaming the machine is in a diferent powerstate and the 2 mofset desing of the m17 can't handle powering a quad in that state even the q9000 is to much for that desing in the lower power state (if you have 2gpu and the 4850 are even worst then the 3870 for this)

it's a bad desing + a rushed bios AW or OCZ both are crap and essentialy the same (notice how when your gpu or cpu overheat like it reaches 100.1c the fans go into overfan mode and stick there until you shutdown and then reboot)
after he put out his .29 to try to fix the stutering issue zfactor digged deeper into the bios to try to get the issue and he was talking about rewriting parts of the bios from scratch until he got out of buiness sadly he won't be around for a while


yup this is not fixable how ever you can walk your way around it for once i set my cpu to star in 100% so it does not throttle back to 1.6 it drains a little more power but reduced stutering by 90% because it force the laptop to stay in the other powermode tweaked all for ma powerconsumsion and poof stuter free at high perf

other tweak can help to i have created a custom vbios for my 4850 so they consume much less power at idle and undervolted my quad just a little and tweaked all other setting so the power consumsion imprint get under the limit and voila suttering is out of my system at power saving mode and at high perf mode

and the tolerance of your machine to the powerdrain is unique to your's you could have tryed plugin device in the usb to change the load and notice when you start to stuter on mine if at idle i can put device that drain around 500ma on 3 out of 4 usb port if i put a 4th welcome stuter while at load depending on the type of load i can sometime drain power out of all 4 port at the same time and sometime only 2 and the machine feels like it's dieing

 

I use all the usb's, 1 for wireless mouse, 1 for the cooler, and a pen drive or external drive, my Xbox 360 controller goes funny sometimes think lack of power to the usb.
Ive always had mine running in hi performance as well, never use the battery, Ive never hit 100c, highest I got was 96c on the northbridge with the OCZ bios, it was too high so went back to AW bios B14 now it only hits 80c max.

It may be worth getting an M17x-R1 so I could use the QX9300 in that without the stuttering, but is it a better machine than my M17 or should I just stick with the M17??

 

stick with the m17 the m17x-r1 is an other machine other machine mean other issue not a paradise

honestly i was thinking about upgrading and after playing with my friend's m17x-r2 i was like meh it's a great machine but it laks something the m17 has

you don't just have to set high perf you have to tweak the plan so the cpu never throtle i could upload my plans for testing but i'm not sure they would have the same effect on a machine that does not have the same bios and vbios tweak

 

granyte,i saw in your sig that you use Q9000,i was wondering which one better?Q9000 or X9100?or maybe X9200? in terms of performance,and will the q9000 suffer from the shutter issues?Thank you

 

depends on your need for me having more thread was a must over having a faster dual cause i'm a heavy multitasker and i would overload a x9100 in no time as i said the q9000 is like a bulldozer 60mph but 60mph trafic or not

but for gaming the ati cfx is dpendant on the clock speed so i get less fps from my stronger quad then i would from a faster dual

yes the q9000 was subject to stuter just like all the quads but some of us got lucky EvilCorsaiR and me got some adrealy stable quad/mobo combo while we heard about other who never could get them stable (by stable i mean like 1 or 2 stuter a week and since i pushed the tweak it's been a 5 month smoooooth ride 0 nada

the faster the quad the likelier it is to stutter or it might be because people who pay more for the faster cpu get iritated faster from not being able to fix it easy

for the Q9100 and ES Q(x)9200 there where not enough of these released we barely heard about them in the m17 how ever is eem the Q9100 is less stable then the Q9000 but more then the Q(x)9200 but the Q(x)9200 never left the ES stage and got so little far in it that it's multi is not even locked so the issue with the Q9200 might just be because all the chip tested where only very early pre prod unit how

 

Thank You very much granyte i will think about which processor will suit for me

 

Only issue in M17xR1, is hawful polling rate in touchpad... everything else is OK

 

Yeah there is something about it, I really like the skull cap on mine, one of the reasons I bought it, I like the LEDs in the speaker grills on the M17x and the front, would have been real nice with skull cap.
Thats one reason I dont mind getting the X9100 as I play games so suits me better, the quad really does rocket for multitasking.

The best uprade for the M17 is the SSD's in raid, its really fast, it starts up and shuts down faster than my sons i7 desktop gaming rig....opps that upset him abit, he paid a fortune building it.

 

Supply and demand at its finest. Intel ramps down production of their top tier Core 2 quad core chip which is the QX9300 and prices go wacko. Unfortunately, they list for, and sell for, $600-700+ now for real OEM chips but that is still less than their original prices.

There are a few OEM QX9300's on eBay right now for $759/ea.

 

$760 is just too much... is the QX9300 much better than Q9200 ???? i can get a Q9200 on eBay for $300-

 

Q9200 is an ES. Q9000 is an(for $760) is an OEM. And actually the Q9200 is $268

EDIT: WAIT! This says its an OEM Q9000 for $289.15 and they've got like 30 of them.

 

oem q9000 is worth nothing and honestly i would not recomand it it's way to slow in single threaded aplication it fit's my need for now an i was WOAAA when i first got the laptop since a jumped from a single core 1.7 ghz to it but honestly it's not a good purchance as long as there won't be more people coding multi threaded aplication

 

Can someone explain this in lame-man terms please?

I'm sick of having gotten into debt for nearly £3000 only to have such a crappy notebook which is subject to stuttering and popping like 10 times an hour. It's most embarrassing when I have friends/family round and we're watching a movie or listening to music. They all think I was ripped off and sold a dud notebook and go on to tell me how they can listen to music just fine on their £200 notebooks, whilst I can't even do this simple function on my £3000 notebook.

I can look up undervolting the cpu myself I suppose. Also, I did flash with the 0.29 bios put out by someone on here which some people said fixed the issue. Switching off the keyboard backlight didn't resolve it, although pressing fn+f10 when pops/stutters resolves that particular instance of popping/stuttering, however doesn't do much for the next one in a few mins.

It's quite temperamental too, sometimes i get the issues every few mins, other times it's fine for a few hours.

Thanks and sorry for the rant, it's been a really popping/stuttering day.

 

I used this thread:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...arket-upgrades/235824-undervolting-guide.html

My CPU was over 80 degrees! I've installed RM CPU Clock Utility and just applied the Power Saving profile to it. Core temp already down to 70 degrees in a few mins. I'll experiment with setting up a proper profile with undervolting applied at some point since right now my cpu is only running at 1.2Ghz.

 

Trust me sell the QX9300 and buy the core 2 duo X9100, I did and its like a new laptop, I sold my QX9300 for £350 on ebay, or change the laptop for the M17x R1 as the cpu will fit and does not suffer the stutter.

But personally the M17 looks better than the M17x.

 

Wow using that undervolt guide not only has stopped any form of microstutter, but keeping my system all full throttle makes it feel alot snappier! Thank you!

 

WOW a user of the ocz version arround nice to see ya yes generally reducing the strain on the mobo's power circuit solve stuttering and since whn you stutter there is also micro stutering it makes the lapto feel way less snapy since iest try to compensate (there is a bios verision moded to give control on the iest setting on the work)

 

Good to see you again too, did you ever get around to making the cut out bottom panels? Mine came out kinda ghetto haha, which bios is that? I have zfactors .29 one, still has no voltage control, I'm doing all my undervolting from the XTU.