Finally Dell confirms M11x refresh!

I fear that when such things happen, the basic design of the laptop and the used materials have more to do with it than simple statistical bad luck. I know that if I had the m11x I would probably open and close it 10 times a day when going to different classes and the last thing I need is a weak hinge&screen construction.
Especially with my low budget where i'll be forced to chose the cheapest warranty, it would be a horror to lose my laptop for a 10 days collect and return periode, when I need the machine for taking notes every single day.

 

same here - no issues with build quality.

 

So once the refresh comes out what % in gaming improvments is anyone guessign. Does anyone think the M11x will go over 7-8k in a benchmark score now?

 

And I agree... talking to a Dell Rep is like trying to navigate through a customer service rep reading you a script...

Now get a refreshed XPS 13 out soon, will ya Dell?

 

Sheesh, either way, not sure why so many people are thinking this is the holy grail for the M11x. It will be a small increase in performance if at all. Based on the Asus UL30VT with SU7300 vs UL30JT with Core i5-520um, the difference is minimal when it comes to gaming, plus it has less battery life.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus/449562-asus-ul30jt-214.html#post6198860

These are NOT the mobile core i5's and i7's going into 15" and 17" notebooks. They're the ULV versions. The i5 is max 1.6GHz three or four threads, and max 1.86GHz single or dual threads with 3MB cache. Assuming they use the i7-620um it is max 1.73GHz three or four threads, and 2.13 GHz single threaded with 4MB cache. Those max figures are most likely not attainable for an extended period.

 

ask a inside job will be easier

 

lolol okay but still. this is what i have access to, and im sure if i didnt post this, someone else somewhere would ask a dell sales rep about this.

XD and i agree with htwingnut. there shouldnt be too much of a difference with performace. and i think they'd overprice the upgrade just cause they made the 1mb of cache and virtualization a $100 upgrade

 

Oh good lord, please stop. I like how everyone is like "OMG I've been waiting for this for months" ^^

It's be nice if r2 comes with better hinge and a proper fan management tho. I would find that better upgrade than i3 CPU.

 

yeah i understand this but what im saying that the reason they are making a laptop like this is for people who cant afford their usual high price high end gaming models. i would hate for them to go back on that. one of the biggest thing that you saw when they were showing off this laptop at CES was that the price was sub 1000. why would they focus on something like this.

dont get me wrong an upgrade would be great but i just think that the upgrade would outweight the price that dell is going to put. its just like the su4100 to the su7300. they made it cost $100 extra for what? just 1mb of cache and virtualization and minimal performance boost?

im just saying its not like dell to give this core i series upgrade a small price point. im not complaining about the price. i already ordered an m11x (my sig?). i just posted what i did (ask a rep) because people seem to think that the m11x was their last stop for a gaming system when they shouldnt be looking at the m11x to fill that gap. its to suppliment that great gaming system you already have. its a system that can play most every game at decent medium and high graphics. if you cant accept those graphics you should move on and accept that your only gonna get better framerates in a different product

edit. after reading the rest of your posts. i just wanted to include that im just speculating. just like everyone else. and in an attempt to get a more solid guess i asked a sales rep which im sure someone who would google this would think of doing. i just saved someone the trouble of going through it

i dont think you should be flaming people for just speculating even if they speculate wrong in your opinion. just state your opinion without burning someone else. my speculation could be wrong but i just want to put my ideas out there.

and like someone posted earlier and what i posted earlier, the m11x is not your ONE gaming machine. people are expecting the core i7 and then this will the ultimate machine that will play everything on max and crysis on max. for people who want to play games like crysis and gta4 on max graphics (just to name 2 that the m11x cant play too well) then they should be looking at a different system and not the m11x. like you clearly said and i clearly said. there are other 13' or 15' systems that are stronger. i dunno why you wanted to flame me just to say what i just said.

whats the "one truth answer" that we have then? you make it sound like making guesses about whats gonna happen is so wrong. this is a forum and not a fact page. there are plenty of things that are wrong all over the forum. theres nothing wrong with being wrong, its how most people learn. if you have reason to believe that we're posting things that are wrong. state what you think and your sources, dont tell us we're wrong and that theres a truth or something like that unless you have that one "truth answer"

 

i see how you twist things there. now you change it to hypothesis.

anyway, i will stop here. no point of arguing w/u if u want to believe that way.

@Cdoan34

yeah, we can't blame alienware for that. they used to make the fastest gaming laptop but the price is also ridiculously high. like a 5star hotel at 5star price.

 

lol you really dont get it. im saying that this is a good product. im saying what you are saying. it will have a 5star price for a 5star product. but how many 5star rooms are say the price of a cheap motel. this laptop is already at a really low price. i hope they dont totally replace the SU4100 because doing so might raise the price. as long as they dont lose that low price of 799 for a stock model, ill be content.

 

Battery and price is going to take a hit which will most likely steer the same people that wanted to purchase it away. Like someone previously pointed out why are you looking at an m11x to max out games? If you got your m11x for cheap then be happy. At this point I suggest if you want to buy an M11x buy it second hand for cheap instead of buying it new and don't look back. My m11x is good for now did not pay full retail for it so I'm not angry at all.

 

I didn't change anything. Every one of my posts has said that is what I think based on what I have seen and read. And something being based on factual data is not the same thing as it being a fact.

 

yes, i agree with what you said and how most people learn from it.

i don't even mind when ppl are wrong. i only started when i tell something but its true and they tried to cover it up with another thing that is false.

 

lol no one is trying to cover up anything. i think its about time to get back on topic! i saw the asus thread comparing the core i5 chip (ulv? i dunno) with su7300.

i guess they didnt really have gaming performance boost.? i just skimmed over it as it was over 200 pages >.<

im guessing that dell might do something like that. and probably for about the same price that the asus upgrade is.

 

actually no one knows if they will come with performance boost. its sad to say the video only provides about the new Core-I series and nothing more. now many users are impatient to wait for this new product.

i hope they will give the official announcement in tech review sites as soon as possible than a video with "not much details".

 

I'm guessing that there won't be so many processor options available. Probably only i5 and i7 processors. Probably going to sell my SU73 m11x for a i7 model. Probably will get a base i7 model too, since I really have no use for all the crap that the EPP model comes with.( Besides, I have an external HDD.)

 

eh dont be so hasty! if you've been following the forum then you've probably hear about the people who got unlucky with one that wasnt built well. and so if yours is working with oc and its built well you might want to consider that as well when your deciding your upgrade.

 

I know. Mine is one of the few that have absolutely NO problems with it whatsoever. Fan works, and it isn't annoying, no creak in the hinges at all, and no bsod when I overclocked the machine. The only problem I ran into is when I tried to go back to the stock clock speed of the machine, so I'm stuck with the overclock. Mine's a rare breed by the looks of things.

I'd stick with it if all it needs for the i7 update is a new motherboard. Otherwise, ehh. And how much is the asus upgrade?

 

the m11x is the 1st generation of smallest gaming laptop. it was expected to have different problems and hopefully this revision fix most of it. you are lucky to get that unit cause other unit had a lot of problems with it.

 

lol some people cant get it to overclock and you cant get yours to stop. hahahaha i guess yours is over compensating for someone else.

i wish i had the patience, but i was too lazy to read about the asus and i just looked at the benchmarks. i think it was like 220 though for the upgrade.

 

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interesting poll results. i voted "who cares", but really meant "unless the refresh thrashes the current one"

 

Ok, I want to order an M11x, and i just heard that they're upgrading to core i's.

I saw the ULVs for these cores and the clock speed per core is slower than the SU7300.

i5-520uM is at 1.06ghz to 1.866ghz turbo.
i7-620uM is at 1.06ghz to 1.866ghz turbo.

So can someone explain if there is going to be a noticable performance boost in games and in processing?

Thanks guys.

 

I think I'll purchase one now then wait and see what the Refresh'll be like. If it's promising, I'll upgrade.

 

i already ordered one :] just waiting for it to come then im waiting to see how the refresh is. its more of price to performance ratio for me. cause right now the m11x is at a really great price with pretty good performance.

 

Mine has absolutely no problems either. The hinges are perfect, the screen is awesome, and the fan doesn't stay on constantly even after upgrading to the latest BIOS. I personally couldn't be happier.

 

just ordered the M11x - my question is do you guys think that the price will go up for the I3/5/7 and honesty will i notice this just doing simple applications at all.. i am basically going to use this on the bus for my daily commute and use verizon broadband with it.

thanks !

 

i think you'll be fine. like daily applications like word, powerpoint, itunes etc. should work about the same on every machine. i dont think you'd really benefit that much from an i3/5/7 upgrade. although if its cheap enough it might be worthwhile.

 

good to know - i guess i could return it - if its that much of a difference , i just want a nice uptime with the battery too !

 

I will cancel my order for sure and wait the refresh ... i would like to see a red one like m15x

 

Seems the i5-520um that they will most likely put in there will perform about same as SU7300 as far as gaming is concerned, and daily productivity stuff, no problem whatsoever.

I still don't understand why Dell chose 11.6" screen over 12.1" or even 13.3". I mean you could easily fit a 13" diagonal screen in the lid. Not sure what's hidden on the sides underneath the bezel, but 0.8" on each diagonal should fit easily. Oh well, just wishing.

 

The thing is waiting for the refresh is all fine and dandy, however it will just be an announcement- The actual shipment to the customer will be another matter altogether.

 

how did you find that out? no I7 ? Wonder if the I7 will smoke the I5/7300

 

the problemis that i was waiting for 20 workng days now .. and a new order in june will be a challenge as everybody in the rest of the world would be ordering too. seems that my m11x will use a santa claus wallpaper as i will get it in december.

 

Cant imagine the i5 scored lower than the su7300 in 3dmark06.

 

It depends on the game but hyperthreading is going to impact many newer titles. I've brought up Shattered Horizon and Battlefield: Bad Company 2.

I'd be happy with a possible stock Core i3 330UM M11x + nVidia Optimus with the occasional overclock and a longer warranty.

 

That 3DMark06 score shows a very slight difference, but it is strange that the extra CPU power didn't help given that 3DMark06 is rather CPU dependent. I'd like to see the separate CPU scores for each rather than the overall '06 scores.

Nonetheless, everything I've seen indicates that the UL30JT will perform pretty much equally to the UL30VT in graphics, and better by quite a large margin in CPU power.

 

What have you seen? The UL30JT reviews are the only benchmarks I have seen for the i-ULV and it performs about the same the SU7300 @ 1.9GHz

 

Come to think of it, I want to wait and see exactly what processors are going into the machine, and if I can just switch out motherboards for the pc.

 

Maybe he is referring wPrime CPU benchmark: ASUS UL30Jt review - Noti (25.2 sec)

and for SU7300 here ASUS UL30A-A1 Benchmarks and Conclusion (57 sec). I think thats not OC'd.

 

I thought Alienware will roll out the i7-680 processor?
Intel said to be prepping 1.46GHz Core i7 ULV processor for this Fall -- Engadget

 

Well, there's this post (Note: I rather doubt the 2.2k score was only on one core), and the wPrime result mentioned earlier as well. If Dell doesn't offer an overclock for the Core i CULV the difference won't be very large, though.

 

damn it..just bought this month and now there is a refresh...

 

it will come with turbo boost(unless they disable it but i highly doubt) so no point of manual overclocking and it save bettery life.

 

Same here, im planing to see how it works with the Su7300 and if i need more power, i will just send it to dell and pay some cash so they can put on my m11x the processor i3-i5 and motherboard for the i3-i5 (If its posible to do it, maybe they will just cant do that... ). Anyways i dont think i will need all that power in a laptop, soon i will make my own desktop or i will just buy one (My main actual desktop its terrible for gaming and atm it doesnt have internet on it). Btw, i will just start playing PC games when my m11x arrives, i used to play Online free MMORPG games, but now im just bored with that kind of games and i want some shooting games such as Crysis and MW2.

 

About time, nice one Dell! Now if they just put a slightly bigger screen in, I'd be buying one in a heart beat.

 

i guess if i wait for the new core i's it would take me forever to get an m11x. reading this thread seems to be confusing since everyone has their own opinions on the new cores.

 

Not sure if you all have seen this already, might be old news... Now that I read the whole thing, its just a repost of the video. Never mind... Still though, an i7 in an 11" screen?! Sounds like something bordering on insanity! I love it!

Alienware M11x getting Intel Core i3 / i5 / i7 upgrade next month, says Dell rep -- Engadget

 

Actually engadget's guys most likely heard about this thread of the infamous video.. This thread was started before the actual engadget post, and engadget states it as a rumor.. Which means they do not have more information about this than we actually do.

EDIT: Just looked at the article, indeed this thread is quoted as the source..