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    How to pinmod and further overclock the M11x R1 (SLG= Hardmod only)

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by DavyGT, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    are you sure? i made sure nothing else is touching other pins.
     
  2. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    disconnect the batt, hold power button down for awhile...



    double check to make sure you did not bridge any pins. ;)
     
  3. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    well.... i went back and tried again.. my m11x motherboard is done for.. =( when i was trying to disconnect the solder from pin 7 it took the pin with it for some reason..
     
  4. some guy

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    dude that sucks...

    but you should still be ok, you dont need PIN7 for 200mhz & 266mhz
     
  5. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    it does suck, but it wont boot. i need motherboard replacement i think...
     
  6. some guy

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    your sure your not bridged anyware?
     
  7. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    yep i just checked about 50 times.. this happened a few times even before the mod. i think this might not be all my fault haha

    edit: i think im going to ask dell for a replacement, a few days ago i kept having trouble getting it to boot and it would just beep when it started up. so i think the reason it isnt working isnt because of me. i was veerrrryyyy careful when doing the mod. and the same thing happend before i did it, i think it was just a faulty board.

    time to get a replacement.
     
  8. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    $140 for training wheels on the hardmod with a good probability of ICS PLL...time to go check under the sofa cushions lol
     
  11. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    if i had the extra $140 bucks right now i would have. called dell and there replacing the board for free =P
     
  12. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    no guarantee that it is an ICS, mine was...
     
  13. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    yep i know. im very hopeful that it will be an ICS tho. if it isnt, il just do the 1.73ghz mod and call it good i guess... =/
     
  14. Voodooi

    Voodooi AFK for a while...

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    Guys -

    Does pin-modding drain a significant amount battery life? If so, how much?
     
  15. some guy

    some guy Modding Addict

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    nope.

    i still get 7-7.5 hrs surfing the web on this lil beast. (NV GFX off, low brightness, 50 processes)

    generally speaking you normally dont pull too much more power unless you add more voltage.
     
  16. gooface

    gooface Notebook Evangelist

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    so new motherboard in my R1, it has the ICS controller instead of the SLG that my old one had. so do I just have to cut that one pin and then softmod it afterwards?

    btw with this new motherboard all the artifacts I got on ATItool and portal are gone.

    its weird though I sometimes get a icon saying the laptop is plugged in and not charging when its not plugged in... dunno if that's bad.. it lasts just a couple of seconds.
     
  17. some guy

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    looks like im sending this PNP RAM back.. :(
     
  18. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    Yes, cut pin 14 and you're set for SetPLL.

    Have you tried flashing it to CAS6?
     
  19. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    did you get your new motherboard with the ICS pll from alienware??
     
  20. some guy

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    do you even think it would make a difference?

    plus i dont have the software cuz i dont have a 32bit ddr3 system right now.
     
  21. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    I need to flash my memory to CAS6... it is not auto up-clocking at 1200mhz... time to install XP :(




    fyi for those with ICS plls, there is no need to cut/solder to the actual pins, there is an open resistor spot next to the pin that you can solder a wire too. I was almost tempted to see if that went directly to ground, but I just don't have the ambition :rolleyes:
    click for bigger
    [​IMG]

    before someone asks, the wire is coated ubergage wire from a set of cheap earbuds


    EDIT: does anyone know something similar to typhoonburner for win7 that doesn't require a paid email account?
     
  22. some guy

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    everybody is leaving me for ICS plls... :(

    J/K im happy for you guys. ;)
     
  23. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    nice =P id rather cut the pin and get it over with tho. its a whole lot easier for me.
    its a good possibility i get the ICS on my new motherboard. il have the new one installed on thursday.
     
  24. gooface

    gooface Notebook Evangelist

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    yep from alienware!

    but im not to sure if its a good board though, I BSOD after running the stability test on ATItool for a little more than an hour.. I wonder if I should format it and try it again.. running prime95 right now.
     
  25. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    awesome! so i have a chance at an ICS. and i had mine bsod on atitool also, it could be a driver issue.
     
  26. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    can anyone give me a step-by-step on flashing my memory to cas6?


    I have vista/thaiphoonbuner installed, but I'm to afraid of bricking my memory... :eek:
     
  27. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    if you brick your memory you can always hotplug
     
  28. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    ok, how do I flash it to cas6?
     
  29. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    might want to pm DavyGT. me and him worked on it for my r1 but it didnt work for anything past cas6.
     
  30. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    yes, I know that... the problem is, my hyperx is stuck on cas5 limiting my OC to 1.7ish... so I need to flash it to a cas6 to try to go higher...
     
  31. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    if i were you id just use different ram. i have a 4gb samsung kit that can go past 1100mhz cas 6.
    and im not sure on the flashing process, iv done it before, but davy supplied the spd file and i just flashed that to see it it worked.
     
  32. gooface

    gooface Notebook Evangelist

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    yeah I am going to test it on a new install of windows with fresh drivers and run prime95 and furmark or something overnight to test it and see if its a stable board they sent me.
     
  33. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    you could try running the heaven benchmark. thats pretty gpu intensive.
     
  34. gooface

    gooface Notebook Evangelist

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    would that also stress my cpu? because I want to run something overnight and see if the whole system is stable.
     
  35. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    I would like to try... this memory should be good to cas6@1280
     
  36. jai554

    jai554 Notebook Consultant

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    @whitrzac
    use SPDTool..... (supports 64-Bit too)
    link for SPDTool: SPDTool: Read, Edit and Flash your Memory's SPD
    1.change the CAS like this.....
    2.open SPDTool
    3.then find for "CAS Latency Supported" (higlighted blue)
    4.change it to 6 only........ :)
    5.then press edit and press fix checksum
    6.then press file and click write.....
    7.repeat the same process on your second module (if you have one)
     

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  37. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    Thanks for this. +1 Great way to test if RAM will work at that CAS. Granted, what do you do if it won't boot?
     
  38. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    It might make a difference. You came this far already...

    SPDTool doesn't work with DDR3 memory.
     
  39. jai554

    jai554 Notebook Consultant

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    hmm.....
    i can help anyone that want to flash their module to CAS6.....
    just post the SPD link.........

    @DavyGT
    thanks for telling me that SPDTool does not work for DDR3 modules :)
     
  40. jovibo

    jovibo Newbie

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    First of all, many thanks to all contributing people (so many I can remember), I think that now my M11XR1 is now near its highest limits. I have tried to see the possibility to join pins 7 and 55 through a 10k resistor but the connections are so small that I prefer to have a PC and not a brick.

    Reading the last comments about CAS5/CAS6/DDR3 and so on, I have checked my memory with CPUz and it says that it is DDR3 and opens four columns, from CAS6 to CAS9 with different frequencies. Does it mean that I can use other timings with the memory I have?.

    Thanks a lot for any response.
    José.


    M11X /550-825-1300
     
  41. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    so something like this?
    [​IMG]
     
  42. jovibo

    jovibo Newbie

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    whitrzac, I don´t know if you are answering me (post 1040) or jai554 (post 1039), but that´s the type of columns I see using CPUz. In the figure you show there are three filled columns; for my memory, CPUz shows four columns in the Timing Table section, from CAS6 to CAS9.
    Thanks a lot.
    José.
     
  43. jai554

    jai554 Notebook Consultant

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    @wthirzac
    you see "max bandwidth" and "JEDEC #1"
    max bandwidth showing 533MHz is your current max clock speed
    then you see JEDEC #1..... it shows 533MHz too and CAS Latency 5
    that's your ram running at...... your ram is currently running at CAS5....
    flash it to CAS6 using thaiphoon burner......
    does your ram support XMP Profiles??
     
  44. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    THAT IS WHAT I'V BEEN TRYING TO DO!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:
     
  45. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    no need to get all upset man. they obviously didnt see your other posts or something. like i said before, i would pm DavyGT. he knows more about it then us.

    edit: tassadar898 might know how to do this too, he was able to flash different timings on his r2.
     
  46. some guy

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    tscaf Notebook Geek

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    Ah!
    Another ram question...
    I just upgraded today to the HyperX memory. 2x4GB modules.
    I ran 3dmark for the hell of it and my avg rating of 7700 (stock 4GB ram) is now 4400! :(
    I've been reading the recent posts on ram and was wondering if anyone can shed some light on this.
    I wasn't sure if my ram needs some work (SPDTool)
    The following are pics of CPU-Z using my new ram.

    Thank you in advance!

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  48. tscaf

    tscaf Notebook Geek

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    lol...ok. I have no clue why, but after a restart and re-running 3dmark, 7451.....
     
  49. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    did you have your gpu overclocked?
     
  50. tscaf

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    I believe I did...then again, 4400 range is about what it would do not OC'd?
     
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