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    How to pinmod and further overclock the M11x R1 (SLG= Hardmod only)

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by DavyGT, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. Shoruken

    Shoruken Notebook Enthusiast

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    That's hilarious, I'm in the EXACT same boat you're in! I absolutely demolished the pin. The only thing I had at my disposal was the tip of a steak knife and a small magnifying glass, so within 10 mins of precision poking my work was done. All the pictures everyone posted of the PLL on board make it look 20x bigger than it is.

    I also had to use the stock RAM to get it to boot as my 4gb chip did nothing, so for the moment I'm still running at 1.6 Ghz.


    I'm also anxious to get the 2Ghz mod underway, and would appreciate if anyone could link a tried and true soldering iron from Amazon that has a fine enough tip for this delicate work, and maybe some hair thin wire for this.
     
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  3. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    I used the wire out of an old pair of headphones/earbuds. The are coated, so you have to be carfull on how long you hold the iron on the wire, but it is the smallest wire I've been able to find...


    if you have any dead elc. stuff laying around, look for a surface mount resistor, the code on top will be "103"


    I have pics in one of my other posts...
     
  4. varnado

    varnado Notebook Consultant

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    These info might help ICS pll owners to overclock while over-clock option is OFF in the BIOS

    Use setPll as usual but start from 300Mhz then 333Mhz and after afew steps at a time e.g. 358, 368 etc. As you see in CPU-z(screenshot) on my cousin's laptop the stable limit was 1.9 with bus 292, to achive this I used 376Mhz BCLK. I am not sure how 376 BCLK hex-values are realted to 292Mhz bus speed! please someone explain this for me
    [​IMG]


    Special Thanks to Nando4 for teaching me how to extend setpll's BCLK table for above 357Mhz
     
  5. User Retired 2

    User Retired 2 Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    The ics9lprs387bklf.lut file was created using a base BCLK of 266Mhz. You are using a base BCLK of 200Mhz so the lut BCLK values are off by some factor. I've PM'ed you info on how to increase these by studying the existing values and just applying the pattern. Remember too these are hex values (base 16) denoted by 0-9..a-f.

    Perhaps you can create a new .lut file for users who want to try the non-OC mode? non-OC mode gains you more voltage headroom without modding the voltage regulator, an extra 0.5 multiplier but run RAM runs at harder-to-overclock 1:2 ratio.
     
  6. some guy

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    Im not seeing why you want to run with OC mode disabled... am i missing somthing? we M11x owners are locked to Cas6 regardless of OC mode enabled or disabled.

    Im not sure what you need explained of the CPU-Z pic but i can try to help.

    Just by a quick glance (guessing this is a cpu-z of a M11xR1) id say you hitting a RAM wall. as 1170mhz is very high speed @ Cas6 (and might not even be stable unless you have some awesome RAM, in which case if your RAM was indeed stable at 1170mhz Cas6 you would be able to OC the CPU up to 2.34ghz in with OC mode enabled.

    Right now im kinda lost on what your trying to do. but ill help any way i can.
     
  7. Diversion

    Diversion Notebook Deity

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    varnado Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for clear explanation :)

    @someguy please refer to Nando4 last post (2nd paragaraph).
     
  9. tscaf

    tscaf Notebook Geek

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    Eek! Fellow modders, I need some help!

    Has anyone experienced a dead keyboard after the cutting of pin 14? I started to experience intermittent TME enabled/disabled after 3 weeks of the original cutting of 14. So tonight, I went back in to make sure the pin was completely cut. Everything appeared to be ok.....

    Took the unit apart a couple times to make I didn't miss plugging something back in...etc

    The computer boots fine, no beeps, nothing. Keyboard even lights up to the set green color I chose, but no key response. If I knicked (God forbid) one of the neighboring pins, 13/15, would it cause this?

    Thank you for any help :/
     
  10. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    you ether fubared the cable, or put too long of screws in the keyboard...


    the 3mm ones(the shortest ones) are supposed to go in the keyboard...
     
  11. tscaf

    tscaf Notebook Geek

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    In the words of C3PO, "Thank the maker"
    Not sure what it was. I decided to go back in with a needle and make sure nothing was touching neighboring pins. I also made sure all wires were snug in the fittings, and it works....
    Can't say what fixed it but....
     
  12. Shoruken

    Shoruken Notebook Enthusiast

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    I bought everything I needed today, including this soldering iron. I have an MSP430 microcontroller I bought online for 5 bucks (shipped) and I'm practicing soldering on that first before attempting the mod. some_guy said the trick was to use flux.

    Would be helpful to see some precision soldering tips/vids. Every soldering video I've seen on Youtube does not have anything this small

    Right now I'm attempting putting a tiny bit of flux on top of the pin, putting the soldering tip on that and then putting some .022'' lead free solder on the the opposite side of the tip and letting it flow through to the flux. My plan is to then attach a wire to the solder on the pin, which should be easy. I just started soldering today, is there a better way to do this?
     
  13. varnado

    varnado Notebook Consultant

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    I think you can go-up atleast 100Mhz in non-OC mode, please try it and let us know... If you have SetFSB I can send you quick instructions which extracted from this thread.
     
  14. lee480

    lee480 Notebook Guru

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    Hi guys :)

    So basically I have the same ICS PLL but different laptop.
    Will the mod work?
    My laptop is an Acer Extensa 4630G; (though the BIOS recognize it as Travelmate 4730). :D
    EDIT: CPU-Z pick up the correct readings for my Bus speed.
    And what Pin should I remove?

    Thanks :)

    images for info:

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  15. varnado

    varnado Notebook Consultant

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    It works, one of my classmates already tried it with the same laptop. just disconnect pin14 or ground it with a 10K ohm resistor
     
  16. lee480

    lee480 Notebook Guru

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    Which pin is pin14?
    thanks :)
     
  17. varnado

    varnado Notebook Consultant

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    check first page for a photo on how to do it after that use Dufus's instructions for overclocking

    here is the short version for SetFSB, just fill the pll's registers (left) with the required hex values (right). 0E is the actual clockspeed

    0C -> 16 update apply
    00 -> 07 update
    0A -> 65 update
    05 (second row) -> 01 update apply
    0E -> change it to higher values (clock speed)
     
  18. tscaf

    tscaf Notebook Geek

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    Hmmm...well, minor problems keep creeping up. My TME is sometimes enabled, and then disabled. Very random...I can't see any form of a pin left on my chip (pin 14). Has anyone experienced this? Bugging the crap out of me =p
     
  19. varnado

    varnado Notebook Consultant

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    maybe loose connection ? I did the same pin-mod for my cousins laptop and no problem till now
     
  20. tscaf

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    Experiencing the same as I?
     
  21. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    this is why I don't cut pins...

    100x easyier to just solder a SMT resistor in there...
     
  22. varnado

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    no problem at all, I used a tiny AWG-32 wire between resistor and pin-14
     
  23. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    cutting pins is way easier for me.
     
  24. Diversion

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    Got a new motherboard coming.. should be here Thursday or Friday.. Guess I better hope for ICS this time? I should be able to solder something in the way Whitrzac did his.. seems easier/much safer than trying to solder to pin14 on the PLL.
     
  25. HTWingNut

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    lolwut?

    You can easily bork a laptop with soldering, I did it once and rendered the laptop unusable, that's why I'll never do it again. With those tiny pins it's damn near impossible to not get any solder on any adjacent pins.

    Cutting a pin is easy. I did it in ten seconds, used a $3 xacto knife.
     
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    Soldering and cutting were both equally terrifying to do for me.. The pin-cut was a success for me.. soldering ruined my board, too. I'll be sending my board off or having a pro do the mod for me this time ...
     
  27. Shoruken

    Shoruken Notebook Enthusiast

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    Woot! I just joined the SLG 2 GHz club. [​IMG]

    I've had two crashes with my corsair 4gb module plugged in, but it actually boots unlike the cut pin 2 for 1.73 mod. Factory RAM has been stable so far, and let me do some benchmarks. WEI went up to 5.5 and my 3dMark06 went up from 6324 at 1.6 GHz to 7885 at 2 GHz. My Nvidia drivers are 260.99, using this version because graphic switching disables discrete immediately instead of waiting 15 mins. Anyone have a newer version that does this?

    Mobo pic to follow as soon as this camera battery charges, was actually easier than the microcontroller I was practicing on. Had no solder experience before 2 days.
     
  28. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    amazing, what was your method on how you did the mod?
     
  29. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    the pins aren't that small... especially compared to what I'm used to soldering...
     
  30. kevmanw4301

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    I'd like to ask you guys how I can do a VID mod on my ICS pinmodded M11x? I can't find the info, and I'm limited by VCore. The RAM kit I tested worked in my friends R2 up to 1107GHz Cas6, so its not the RAM. I tested it in the R1 too.
     
  31. some guy

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    just click the SLG pinmod general info link in my sig.

    read section 6a.

    you should have the same voltage controller as the SLG R1s
     
  32. kevmanw4301

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    Allright, thank you.
     
  33. some guy

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    hey no prob. if you need help let me know.
     
  34. kevmanw4301

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    I read it, but theres nothing about the VID mod? Mind pointing it out? I'm lost, hah.
     
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    Never mind, got it. Pin32 on the voltage reg under the heatsink. Now to find out what pin 32 is.
     
  36. some guy

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    its in the pic. i marked it in red where you cut and have a big red arrow pointing to it. :)
     
  37. kevmanw4301

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    Noted. One more noob question. Is it on the bottom, or do I have to remove the keyboard?
     
  38. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    you have to take EVERYTHING apart to get the mobo out... its on the bottom under the CPU/GPU heatsink...
     
  39. kevmanw4301

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    Okay. So, nothing with the keyboard, if I'm understanding. If I had to do that, I was thinking not. I don't want to mess it up, at all. I just want to hit 2GHz.
     
  40. some guy

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    as whitrzac said you have to basically take aprt the entire laptop and take the mobo completely out.

    the chip is under the heatsink,
     
  41. kevmanw4301

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    I'm fine with that. I'll do it tomorrow and post results. I have a preset area for assempling desktops, I just don't do much work on laptops, so I wanted to make sure.
     
  42. some guy

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    yea its a job alright. but worth the time if you are up to the task. :)
     
  43. kevmanw4301

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    It will be. :) I want the 2GHz, for BC2. How much better perfomance did you get with 2GHz over the stock 1.6GHz?
     
  44. Shoruken

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    I used varnado's method.

    All my pics are here, camera isn't the best: Photo Album - Imgur

    I posted 2 of my mobo. The one with the longer wire worked fine, but after assembling the laptop it started beeping. After I cut the wire I did a wayyyy better soldering job and is rock solid, does not move at all. Laptop is fully assembled now and everything works perfectly ;)
     
  45. DavyGT

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    Thanks for that section. Add some of your performance benchmarks.

    You get out what you put in.
     
  46. Shoruken

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    I need some RAM recommendations. My laptop ran wayyy cool before this mod but now my RAM is burning my palmrest and everything else near it. It's hot enough that I don't think I want to keep my laptop running overnight. Davy/varnado two what're you using?
     
  47. some guy

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    no prob. i figured it could help everyone out a bit. ill update the post with what ever you need.

    do you mean before and after screen shots of benchmarks? or how to use the benchmarks to test for stability?

    i like the min FPS jump you got there after the OC in BC2, just curious. do you have a R2 score to compair to the R1 score you just linked?

    just asking cuz i have R2(i5) in front of me right now. im playing TF2 and i cant feel a difference big enough to justify the switching after the battery life loss. am i doing something wrong? i got it up to 191mhz base clock with TS running. its smoother but still not a solid 60FPS
     
  48. varnado

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    @SomeGuy

    could you please tell me which pins sould be bridged for VID-mod (1.1V in OC mode)

    thanks mate
     
  49. some guy

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    You actually just cut pin32 on the voltage controller. i have a pic in section 6a of my SLG gen info link in my sig.
     
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    Is this a fairly simple mod that someone can do with basic soldering knowledge and stuff? Is it recomended to use the pin cutting method, or the soldering a resistor method?

    From what I understand there's a few different ways to go about it, then I think extra voltage mods and stuff to OC it even more? I'm just looking to get it to a true 1.73ghz or so OC not necessarily 2ghz if it requires a lot of work and knowledge as I feel sketchy even wanting to try the basic ones however I do want the OC from it. Also is it removable it for whatever reason you want to?

    Lastly, is there a copy of that BC2 optimization guide floating around anywhere? I searched and found the thread for it, but the first post was edited/deleted with no guide there anymore. Everyone references the guide to get significant BC2 performance gains with or without this mod, but it seems like you can't even find it now.
     
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