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    How to pinmod and further overclock the M11x R1 (SLG= Hardmod only)

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by DavyGT, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. spin32

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    Thanks for All the help one last question
    If I do the 1.1Vid mod and set in bios to OC mode off will I be able to boot?
    Or switch between oc mode on off?
     
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    No prob. :)

    The VID table changes if you use change between OC enabled/disabled. Idk what voltage you would get with OC disabled. i cant figure it out now. but the VID table is listed in the same section if you want to take a crack at it.
     
  3. spin32

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    What I meant was that if ill do the mod and for example my bios will get reset and OC mode will be set to OFF will I'll have to resolder the 1.1 mod in order to boot?
    Thanks!
     
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    Well from my stock VID. if i did the mod. the VID would not be affected with OC mlde disabled as long as speed step is disabled. if speedstep is enabled... thats a whole other can of worms.

    The 1.1 mod wnot change any of your Bios settings that i have found.
     
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    YES!!! I've done the VID mod and Now Everything works :)) thanks A LOT!!
    Some Guy you are the best..
     
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    word. :cool:

    are you stable?
     
  7. spin32

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    Thanks :)
    Well I haven't done serious tests so far.
    but everything runs normal like before
    I've reapplied thermal paste used AC5
    temps are
    Idle cpu\gpu = 34\45
    Load playing witcher 2 40\50
    Next Is your heatsink mod :)
     
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    Soo, I did the ICS resistor mod several days back again. Had neighbor, whose job requires soldering occasionally, confirm 10k ohms on resistor and solid connection to pin and ground. Setfsb showed that it didn't work, but I left the resistor in there and closed it up anyway. Comp has been intermittently crashing (even before modding) while my SLG board was 100% rock solid. It doesn't happen too often to bother me though, probably 4 times in the past 2 weeks usually when I'm not around.

    Yesterday it crashed and I open up SetFSB. Found the value to be A5 as opposed to E5. I ran "setpll Alienware-m11xR1 273" for a few more MHz and it hard froze, had to pull battery. Started up again and setFSB changed its mind and went back to E5.

    That was the correct command to run on setpll, right?
     
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    Awesome thread!

    I've tried the SLG 2Ghz mod on my m11xr1 but was not stable (blue screens). Should I try the VID mod or put in better RAM first? I've done everything from section 6b.

    If I have to do a Voltage mod is there any other way than just cutting PIN32?
     
  10. some guy

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    Sorry i dont know jack about the ICS software stuff.


    If both sticks fail i would think it would be the CPU thats the problem. if you had a friend that would let you try their RAM out i would try that first to be sure but it looks like you need the VID Mod.

    Sorry we dont know of any other way other than physicaly modifying the voltage controller
     
  11. aku1990

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    Hey everyone, newbie here. :)

    I have been using my M11x R1 (with the SU7300) for nearly a year now.

    Whenever I try the overclock feature, I either get BSOD or it just switches off, with and without speed step enabled, within around 10 to 15 minutes of use. Is there anything I could do about it? That being said, do you think I should go for this pinmod overclock? I tried SetFSB and found out that I have ICS 9LPRS387 PLL so I know that this guide supports it.

    Any answer or tips would be greatly appreciated. :)
     
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    If your getting BOSD on the stock overclock you may need better RAM or the VID mod. in the case its your chipset thats the issue we wont be of much help.
     
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    I just want to report my status so far!
    I've found out my TME is randomly unlocked whenever I boot comp or wake it from sleep. So if I lose overclock ability I just sleep it a few times and hope for an "A5" value.

    I've also ran the commands in setpll in this order:
    setpll -read
    setpll -report
    setpll alienware-m11xr1 325

    Everytime I've gone straight to last line without doing the above (I think one of the commands can be omitted but I do both anyway) I get a hard crash. So far with this I've not had any crashes, and surprisingly my laptop runs up to 330 bclk with no problems. At 335 it crashes instantly.

    I've also got the same 4gb Corsair module installed that did not let me even boot my slg motherboard with the 1.73GHz mod, yet I'm running at 1950 MHz cpu and 486 MHz ram solidly.

    Overclocking by 350Mhz truly makes a world of difference in gaming. Unreal Tournament 3 no longer stutters at ALL with graphics pumped up quite a bit and GTA4 runs beautifully. I've bought quite a few games from the summer Steam sale and can play them all satisfactorily :)
     
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    is cutting pin really necessary or i can just GND the pin...........
    can anybody tell??
     
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    @someguy
    did you cut any pins when you do the pin mod on the PLL???
     
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    dude........ your posts... your PMs...your killing me...

    im really trying to be a nice helpful person here but its like you ask a question then ignore my awnser just to ask the same question a few days later. i dont know how many different ways i can slice it for you bro.


    what mod are you asking about this time... SLG or ICS?

    please try to read my SLG info post for general questions (link in my sig).
     
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    hahaha.....
    annoying orange....... :p
    sorry if im killing you........
    im just asking if you cut any pin on your SLG pll
    i not really understand on the PLL mod.......
     
  21. some guy

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    for the 333mhz bus speed you add power to PIN7 thru a resistor and make sure you have OC mode enabled.

    the only time you would cut pins is for different bus speeds. when you want to turn off a PIN the easiest way is just to cut it.
     
  22. jai554

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    another option is to GND it right???

    EDIT:
    ok..... now i understand after reading few threads on PLL pinmod...... cutting pin is not really necessary.......
    to get my CPU to boot @ 2.79GHz..... i need to GND my PLL pin 2 (FS_B) via 1k resistor
    then flash my ram to Cas6
    then connect VID4+Vss
     
  23. Xaser04

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    Hi all, I have come across a new and interesting issue when trying to tweak my OC a bit further.

    I recently received my M11x back from having its hinge replaced and thought I would treat myself to some of the only memory known to not cause a bottleneck when overclocking - Kingston Hyper-X PC10666 CL7. Knowing that this memory can run at CL6 @ 1142MT/s I thought it was best chance of seeing what was really preventing me going futher than 310 on the FSB.

    Unfortunately after the first test at 315 MHz FSB the laptop blue screened and that was that, the memory isn't the problem.

    Rather than throw in the towel at the first hurdle I thought I would try to be clever and use the "non-oc" mode to push the clocks a bit further.

    I had assumed that the combination of decent memory (good enough for 285MHz FSB at the 1:2 divider), 6.5x multipler and higher vCore would be enough to at least allow me to match my normal OC of 1.86GHz albeit with my memory clocked much faster.

    Unfortuately I hit a snag straight away, SetPLL would not program the PLL at all, it simple got stuck in an infinite loop trying to send the request to the PLL but failing at the final hurdle. Oddly CPU-Z was registering a FSB increase but only to around 232MHz rather than the 280MHz I had requested :confused:.

    Turning off speedstep made no difference, in fact it seemed to lock me into 6x multipler using non overclock mode....?

    I thought that we could overclock in non OC mode but would be effectively limited by the memory? Am I missing something obvious?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated as if nothing works I will be sending the memory back under DSR as beyond a potential OC in non OC mode it has not proven any better than my stock memory.
     
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    setPLL's m11xR1 .LUT file has a list of FSB and the matching bytes to send to the PLL. That file was generated by taking PLL data from setFSB with a m11xR1 running in OC mode from 266-354Mhz. When you turn off OC mode, the PLL is calibrated to 200Mhz so the FSBs will be off by some factor. Still, it will program the PLL just not at the set values. So suggest run 'setpll Alienware-m11xR1 [266-354]' going up to 354Mhz then use 'cpu' to identify what your current running frequency is. If that's too inconvenient then someone would need to create a new .LUT for for non-OC operation OR just get a setFSB license for an out-of-the-box working solution.

    The non-OC mode can run the CPU at x6.5 with a higher 0.95V voltage. OC mode locks the CPU at x6 and 0.9V so is worse for the actual CPU overclock. However, non-OC mode sees the RAM running at the higher 1:2 clock ratio so would likely be the first OC wall you'd hit. Other chipset parameters like the 4500MHD Core Render clock also clocked differently with the non-OC mode (200Mhz), so might start artifacting of freezing if there's a large 200->300Mhz overclock. The overclock testing is best done with the GT335M as the active GPU.
     
  25. Xaser04

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    Your first point makes perfect sense as to why I was seeing a different value in CPU-Z to the FSB I sent to the PLL. I am still somewhat confused that SetPLL doesn't appear to complete the program process yet still registers a change in CPU-Z?! (Is this because the FSB value being sent to the PLL doesn't correspond 100% to the actual change requested by SetPLL (in the background so to speak)).

    I have no issue with trying this myself (I use the .bat method so just create new files for each clock speed tested). I will give it a try tonight and if that doesn't work send the memory back Monday.

    In terms of your other points I am running in discrete mode only on the GPU (to enable the use of proper Nvidia drivers) so the Intel GPU shouldn't be a limiting factor. The Hyper X memory should also be capable of pushing a FSB of 285 (real FSB so ~ 351 from SetPLL) in Non OC mode before it is effectively being overclocked at CL6
     
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    I'm thinking of attempting a mod with my M11x. I read up through about page 30 on this thread. Up to that point there wasn't a lot of info on getting the SLG to 1.73 GHz. In fact I don't think anyone had tested it at that point. I just have what I hope are some quick questions about it.

    From what I understand all this mod involves is cutting pin 2? Then while in non-OC mode you achieve a speed of 1.73GHz?

    I realize this puts more stress on the RAM than the 333 MHz mod does, is it enough to not recommend it?

    Being the noob that I' am, I thought I'd post my RAM specs just to get some thoughts on whether it might be a limitation or not. I only have 2GB currently. Same in both slots. CPU-Z RAM

    I have no experience in this type of OCing or soldering, and would like to avoid soldering at all costs.

    Cheers to anyone who can help me out, and sorry if I've repeated questions that have already been asked.
     
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    I have a general question guide that i have linked in my sig if you want to check that out.

    To awnser your question. the cool thing about the mod your talking about is if you are stable in the stock OCmode then you can always just go back and use that setting if your not stable with the mod. If yiu cant boot with the mod you will have to reconnect the pin some how to get it back up and running. there are a few ppl here that will do any mod you want for you, for a small fee. (including my self ;) ) you can see my work by clicking on the =SLG PINmod= link in my sig.

    The 1.73ghz will be Ocing your RAM as it will be running 1066mhz Cas6. yours is set to run 1066mhz Cas7. which is pretty normal by the way, but its totally do-able. a few ppl here have gotten it to work on thier M11x's
     
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    some guy: Looking for some help in pinmoding my R1. Screwed up the first time, now have a shiny new motherboard. Heard perhaps you could assist? (email me at rpg951s at yahoo.com)
     
  29. lil-tom7

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    Would you be able to tell me or show me where to connect the 7th pin for the 333Mhz? If you would help it would be very helpful and yes i looked at your picture but i cant see how you did your 333Mhz? :confused: Also for connecting the 10k resistor would this work?

    Also does anyone know of someone in the Ohio Akron area that would like to help me with this and maybe other mods? Of course for a small fee ;)
     
  30. some guy

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    Im not able to veiw the thing you linked right now. (on my smart phone)

    If you click the SLG gen info link in my sig and look at section 4b. there is a pic in there that shows a easy way to do the mod.
     
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    Thanks and if i wanted to do this by you or someone else that knows what there doing. Would I be able to? And if so could you point me in the right direction I would prefer someone local but if that's not possible then maybe we could work something out. Or something
     
  32. some guy

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    I have done a few for users on here. if you are intersted just send me a PM.
     
  33. lil-tom7

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    Ok well Im new to this forum and I cant find hot to pm you. :confused:


    Edit well since im new i cant pm :( But if you want you can email me ([email protected])
     
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    I think you need at least 5 posts to send private messages. It might be 10 posts, I'm not sure.
     
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    Thank you very much.
     
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    Thanks for the help some guy.

    The first thing I did with my M11x was turn it to the OC mode. I've had no stability issues at all. I have to admit 2.00 GHz sounds awesome, but I'd feel more comfortable going for the 1.73

    My current 3dMark06 is 6630. I have the GPU OC to 540/1296/819. I thought I might as well apply better TIM to the GPU while I'm in there. Hopefully I'll be able to break 7000 in 3dMark06 after the mod and more OCing on the GPU.
     
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    7k is totally doable with just a nice gfx OC.

    at stock i was at about 6k. got 1k fron the 2ghz mod and 1k from my video card OC bringing me to about 8k. :)
     
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    For the 2GHz mod PIN7 is the only one that needs power right? Then in your sig, the gauge you have going from the other pins, is that grounding them? Is this to avoid actually cutting them?

    I may attempt the 2 GHz mod at a later date.
     
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    What i have done in the pic in my sig is have all 3pins that control the bus speed hooked up to a switch so i can change the OC with out having to solder anymore.

    see the general info link in my sig and read thru it a bit. At the bottom of section 4b you can see a pic of what the 2ghz mod should look like.

    there is basically everything you need to know the link

    my post is just a summary for the Pinmod. all the hard work that many people have contrubited to all in one post. so new people can get all the info in this thread with out having to read the entire thing or search thru pages and pages when they need a quick awnser.
     
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    "You can't as the SLG PLL is not programmable. However, it is still possible to overclock to 1.73/1.8/1.95/2/2.16 Ghz using the FSLx mod. All the clockspeeds except 1.73Ghz are hard mods and require soldering fine pins"

    Ok this was probobly asked already but does this mean you can get the 1.73 ghz without opening up the laptop?
     
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    All overclocks of 1.73Ghz and beyond require a PLL pinmod. That means dismantling the system to access the PLL.
     
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    Dear Community,
    i´ve tried to do the "easymod" on my R1 (ICS) a few times now. It feels like i almost have scratched halfway through the board, but i can´t get SetFSB to change from "E5" to "A5".
    I have to admire your works everytime i´ve tried it even more. These pins are so small, i seem to fail every time, despite the brilliant howtos everyone here posted (a BIG thanks to you all!).
    If anyone has another tip for me how to get this pin disconnected... i´m quite out of ideas. Or too careful, but that would be new. ;)
     
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    Hey Guys,

    First off I will admit I haven't read through all 140 pages... I read 1-50, and then the last few, but I'm having a problem:

    I have a M11xR1 with the ICS PLL, I have cut the 14 pin and setFSB shows that A5 and 101 on 09, but I get lost at the programming the PLL part... what in the world do i do now?

    I tried setPLL and every time I try to run it and change the PLL, my system freezes completely and I must pull the battery.

    In hopes of solving the problem I purchased setFSB and got my unlocked full version, but when I load up the ICS9LPRS387BKLF it does fine with get FSB, but as soon as I move the slider, I freeze instantly, game over, and must hard restart my machine... what am I doing wrong? Thanks for ANY help!! I've been trying to get this working for about a week now and finally have broken down and I'm asking for help. Thanks in advance.
     
  44. vorob

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    Aaaand? How can i do this?
     
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    You cut pin 2 on the SLG PLL with OC mode disabled.

    I have a SLG general info post linked in my sig. please read thru it and if you have any questions feel free to ask. :)
     
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    It is written that i can have 1.73 without hard mod.
     
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    I dont know who said that but any thing over the stock 1.6ghz requires you to open your laptop and soldier and or cut pins.

    Sorry. :l
     
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    Then its better to correct the first post.
     
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    I think vorob is referring to the sentence "All the clockspeeds except 1.73Ghz are hard mods and require soldering fine pins." by DavyGT in the first post.
    So, i´ve ordered an usb microscope for the next try. That has to work.
    be77solo, i´m not at your poit yet, but i wondered if i understood that procedure right, too. I would try to use setpll, though. Have you tried that?`Looks easier to me!
     
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    Same problem here with the ICS PLL. I've also genuinely tried so hard to get that f***ing thing to change to A5 that i've been scratching through the motherboard. There is literally nothing left of Pin 14 and yet it still says E5. Seriously, what the hell is going on? I'd take a picture of how ridiculous it's getting, but i'm feeling lazy right now.
     
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