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    How to pinmod and further overclock the M11x R1 (SLG= Hardmod only)

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by DavyGT, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. Chrisznix

    Chrisznix Notebook Enthusiast

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    I´ve got a weird thing going on. I can confirm that pin 14 has no connection to the board anymore (i´ve used a multimeter to check that). After that i´ve disconnected the CMOS battery and reassembled the system. SetFSB showed - TADAAA - A5!
    After a reboot, this value changed back to E5. Damn. How can this be? I´m starting to believe that the 10kOhm-pulldown is the better way to do it.

    But i´ve found out something else. At least i think i do.
    The place where whitrzac suggested to solder on is indeed meant for a resistor. Now guess where it leads to? It leads to ground!
    Means: if you want to do the hardmod, all you needed to do is get a micro-smd resistor with the value of 10kOhm, place and solder it there and be happy. Looks much better that way.
    I cannot test this, because i´ve cut the pin so hard that there is no pin anymore to reconnect it to the board.

    I would be very happy if someone could do that mod this way.
     
  2. Kingerno

    Kingerno Notebook Enthusiast

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    Same thing happened to me, showed a5 then after reboot changed back to e5
     
  3. ThwartAbyss54

    ThwartAbyss54 Notebook Consultant

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    Hmm if i bought that motherboard and put it in an old broken tablet i have laying around would i have an "Alienware M11x" tablet :D ? Yeah i know stupid question.
     
  4. Hello_Moto

    Hello_Moto Notebook Evangelist

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    Well i think i just borked my mobo.

    M11x powers on, gets past POST but then hangs on a black screen (no 7 beep code though).

    Had to hold down power button to shut down.

    Upon powering up again, no POST (AW head etc.). Just hangs on a black screen (still no 7 beeps though).

    Time for a new mobo, me thinks.

    Anyone know how much DELL charges for one? Otherwise, it's ebay time

    Sad times (you play with fire, you gonna get burned) :( :(
     
  5. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    you gotta be extra careful. this isnt something that you can just go in and do. you really need to have a steady hand and hard concentration. i hate hearing about people screwing up their m11x's when doing a pin mod. if all the precautions are taken, and using the right tools, this isnt very hard.

    iv cut 6 SLG m11x chips, and not one of them has been damaged.
     
  6. ThwartAbyss54

    ThwartAbyss54 Notebook Consultant

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    You have the R1 right? With SU7300?
    Heres one thats the cheapest 130
    Heres one for 140
    And heres one for 260
    I was going to say you could just solder the pins you cut back together but if you destroyed the sata clip thingy for the keyboard to connect to the motherboard i think your screwed unless you use an external (usb) keyboard all the time.
     
  7. Hello_Moto

    Hello_Moto Notebook Evangelist

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    @ajslay: i dont know whether you're trying to be sympathetic or criticizing me....

    in any case, I was in the right mindset to attempt the task along with the right tools but it seems that my manual dexterity was sorely lacking.

    congratulations on having superior manual dexterity skills to me.
     
  8. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    nah im just saying it sucks hearing about all the screwed up m11x's. not criticizing anyone =P
     
  9. GNandGS

    GNandGS Notebook Deity

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    As a "fan" of this mod I think he really wishes you didn't have trouble. It hurts the cause if folks kill the mb ;)

    DOH! Too late
     
  10. Chrisznix

    Chrisznix Notebook Enthusiast

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    I can only sign that. This is by far the hardest mod i´ve ever tried, and i´ve done some. Having tried it for about 8 times, i was kinda happy to see that at least it still works and that i´m not too stupid to cut a bloody pin. It is disconnected indeed, but same as kingerno, the tme was disabled only once.
    The reason for this could be some "floating" (i can just a translation of the german term "schwimmen"). Means: some chips can be undefined when disconnected. I can´t explain it better, and my tech knowledge at this scale is not good enough.
    If i´ve got the time, i´ll try to reconnect the pin and do the suggested mod with the smd resistor. If this works, it could prove that theory.
     
  11. Kingerno

    Kingerno Notebook Enthusiast

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    My pin is totally gone and still showing E5.im also happy its still funtioning so i'm done with thr mod for now. On a weird note i was messing with setfbs before and manually changed the e5 to a5 and it actually registered. And showed wth setpll also. Once i tried to change the value to overclock my system froze and i had to remove the battery. Havnt been able to change it since
     
  12. Chrisznix

    Chrisznix Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yeah, Kingerno, same here. I´ve tried to reconstruct the line to the soldering point (suggested by whitrzac), but i wasn´t successful. I´ve also tried to set a SMD-Resistor of 10KOhms on that point, but i´ve got one size too big. If anyone wants to try it: it should be the 0402 size (metric: 1005).
     
  13. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    I just soldered a wire to that point and soldered a SMT resistor on the ground pad around the screws...
     
  14. smsmasters

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    Is it possible to somehow glue a resistor to the pin instead of soldering?
     
  15. GNandGS

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    Standard glue afaik is non conductive. They do make liquid solder but then you would lack the holding power of glue and adds risk of shorting. If that wasn't enough the temp and vibration would be a problem. IMO. Willing to be wrong
     
  16. Kingerno

    Kingerno Notebook Enthusiast

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    For those who once showed a5 but then reverted back to e5, did you happen to remove tour coin cell battery after you cut the pin??
     
  17. Chrisznix

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    Yes, exactly that was the case.
     
  18. gooface

    gooface Notebook Evangelist

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    well I love this mod for the ICS, my 1.9ghz 7300 is powerful enough for most tasks out there, way better than the stock 1.6ghz by far. the only issue I have is rebooting when overclocked, it just hangs trying to boot off the network. But most of the time when it resets the unit powers off then turns back on and its fine.
     
  19. RayDawg

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    Um, I've been thinking about pin modding my r1. Do you guys have any tips (and possibly pictures with better focus on the parts) to share? As far as I'm concerned, opening up a laptop and physically modding parts is completely new to me.

    Edit: I was thinking about trying to get to 2 ghz (or as close to it as possible) if anyone is wondering.
     
  20. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    what PLL do you have?
     
  21. GNandGS

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    This might not be a "1st mod" kinda project
     
  22. gooface

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    lol well it was for me, you just have to be careful and not distracted and focus and take your time if it doesnt seem to come off the first time. If you have the ICS chip its easy, just take a needle and chip at the pin until it comes off and then clean it out really good so theres no contact with the stuff you damaged. and test it and see if the TME is disabled and then you are good to go.
     
  23. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    NO!!!!!!!!!!!! The past 4-5 people to try this have failed, or the TME remained locked...


    I posted a pic a few pages back on were you can solder a 10k SMT resistor that is nowhere near the pin...
     
  24. RayDawg

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    I have no idea :confused: .
     
  25. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    please read the first post....
     
  26. gooface

    gooface Notebook Evangelist

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    well I have performed this 2 times already and no issues.
     
  27. RayDawg

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    Oh man, I have the SLG8SP556V PLL...
     
  28. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    It works sometimes but not others... I experience the same issue in my dig. elc. class, if you leave the pin "floating" it can ether go high or low depending on the chip...
     
  29. eugeniolujambio

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    Hi, I`m Pablo, and Im completely new to overclocking; I have the m11x r1, and Ive already done the pinmod. The thing here is that Im new to all the pinmod too. Ive done already the part in which I cut the pin 14, and got everything allright; buuuuut.... I simply cant gget to understand setpll, could someone please explain me? As far as I know, what I should do is to `cd` to setpll folder in cmd, and run `setpll alienware-m11xr1 299` where 299 would be the speed set. It then gives me a message saying the syntax of the command is incorrect.

    If in a way Im impolite about this, pardon me, English is not my first language, I didnt mean to.
     
  30. eugeniolujambio

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    Ok, I've already done that part, but now it says "Failed to set BCLK", any direction or hints you could give me?
     
  31. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    "Failed to set BCLK" may mean that your TME mod was not successful.
    Did you confirm that TME is disabled?
     
  32. eugeniolujambio

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    Hmm... This is weird. I did the pinmod, I had already the E5 entry changed to A5, just checked right now and it went back to E5. Just wondering, it has happened two times. What might have gone wrong? I was pretty sure the pin was already disconected, but idk now. pd. thanks for the reply
     
  33. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    This.........................
     
  34. eugeniolujambio

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    Woops. I'm so sorry I missed that, I started checking the forum from 140 and went below, I never meant to waste your time. .. Well, I guess I'll have to resign with what I have. Or is there any other workaround?
     
  35. gooface

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    try to clean it up better if you can and see if it changes it. did you break the pin or did you attach a resister to it?
     
  36. eugeniolujambio

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    Right away! (Just after finishing schoolwork...) I did cut it, the soldering option seems more complicated to me, and though I learned soldering like 3 years ago(literally when I was 14) and hadn't put it in practice, I am afraid to connect two pins while soldering, thus, I didn't have a resistor at hand.
     
  37. gooface

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    did you make sure that the area where you cut it was clean of the pin and no contact at all was being made? I had the issue where I thought the pin was gone but it wasn't. so it took a couple of tries (digging at it, then testing it) to make sure it worked. but after a couple of tries it worked. dont give up, try to clean it up a bit more and see if you can make it work.
     
  38. eugeniolujambio

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    Ok, I'll try it. Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it. Any other thoughts of what can help me? I really want to learn to do this kind of stuff(I'm interested in a Engeeniring career). Fact: Dell is overpriced in Mexico. Costs as much as 3 times in the US. Hate that fact, but I love this pc(had to buy it in the us).
     
  39. gooface

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    all electronics are really overpriced in Latin America, all the import taxes and stuff. I lived in Argentina for 2 years, stuff was 2x as much down there than it is up here.
     
  40. eugeniolujambio

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    Well, that seemed to work out for one time, had the oc enabled in BIOS, Speedstep disabled. Running at 1596.6 MHz, then I overclocked to 1.719 MHz with 300 BCLK. Next I tried a OC of 355 BCLK, my laptop crashed, rebooted and I got a Operative System Not Found screen. I had to turn it off by the power button, restarted, and now I'm getting the same error as before. Also, A5 entry went to E5 again.

    Any other ideas? I will try tomorrow to clean better the pin; is a qtip useful for the mean? Also, any suggestions on how to clean properly?
    I got some advances today, but all because of your help, thanks!
     
  41. gooface

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    317 is for 1900mhz, I didnt disable speedstep myself, also I always get the operating system not found error when I just do a reset, you have to cold reboot to make it work again, happens all the time when the pc restarts when overclocked with the setpll program, don't know why.

    I'd make sure I blew it out good with some canned air, and maybe an electronic wash spray. I'll have to ask what my father used, he helped me with it. you could use a qtip, just make sure you dont leave any cotton on it after you clean it, and make sure no remnants of the pin are there.

    I hope you have more luck, and I hope it all works out, sounds like you are getting closer.
     
  42. eugeniolujambio

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    I was able to OC again, this time to 317 BCLK, ran Intel Burn Test, and the system was stable. Tried to go higher and my system freezed, I had to hard reboot. After that I haven't been able to OC, even after rebooting 2 times. I'm going to try more, If im successful at OCing to 317, I will set a .bat
    in the startup folder to have my laptop overclocked every time I boot.

    Noticed something in the keyboard. I accidentally screwed the long screws into it. G, H, UP, and Esc were not working. Just applied pressure in between G and H, the problem was fixed. IDK if just me, I think it can be helpful for people with the same issue.
     
  43. GNandGS

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    Be careful guys. Prefer this mod to be fun and rewarding so take your time. Good luck all.
     
  44. eugeniolujambio

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    It is rewarding, and a pretty interesting thing to do. I had never done a pinmod in my life. Still having the same problem. TMA seems to be randomly locked/unlocked. May be the pin isn't completely disconected. My thoughts are that current could be struggling already to gget through, but I'm no expert at the matter.
     
  45. bus_dr1v3r

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    I just ordered 8gb of the HyperX ram and will be attempting 2.0ghz mod on my SLG. I read through about 60-70 pages of this thread so far. What is the fastest that anyone has gotten on the SLG? I'm pretty good with a soldering iron and have done pin-mods like this before, but any suggestions other than that?
     
  46. gooface

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    yeah dont ever put the long screws below the keyboard, use the short ones otherwise you will damage the keyboard. its a good thing you were able to fix it. yeah, I use 317 myself for 1.9ghz. Hope you can get it cleaned a little better, you might need to use a needle on it to pick at it a little more as well.
     
  47. gooface

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    I think with the SLG you have to use the 333mhz mod, so make sure you have the RAM that can do that.
     
  48. bus_dr1v3r

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    I already ordered the HyperX memory and the 333mhz mod will get me to the 2.0ghz I'm shooting for :)
     
  49. bus_dr1v3r

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    Yeah, with the pin mod and stock ram I don't even get a boot screen :(

    Hopefully my new ram will be here today and I can try it.
     
  50. eugeniolujambio

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    Glad to say, it now works for me most of the times, at 1.7 Ghz, I can't seem to get higher speeds. Think it is because of the ram. I'm ggoing to leave it as that for now and try the GPU volt mod. Thanks for the help.
     
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