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    How to pinmod and further overclock the M11x R1 (SLG= Hardmod only)

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by DavyGT, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. some guy

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    soooo are you asking me to run the benchmark? :rolleyes:
     
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    ah, maybe. :eek:

    Would you like to run a benchmark? :D
     
  3. some guy

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    sure. is it in the game or is it something else you have to download?

    never ran it before. i dont know if my score will be much higher. from what i remember Crysis is a GPU bound game.
     
  4. DavyGT

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    They're using the Crysis Benchmark Tool.

    I haven't found any gains from 30FPS 1366x768 High DX9 so maybe this weird test will.
     
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    you have to have the game installed, but run the benchmark seperately

    I had to even have the game CD in the drive (on desktop, steam version would be ok I guess? - new to steam)
     
  6. DavyGT

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    You don't need the full game, the Benchmark tool works with the demo version of Crysis too.
     
  7. some guy

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    its all good. i have the full game thru steam. the good Dr. set me up. ill run this later today and post the results in the right thread.
     
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    Hello very smart people. I jus received my r1 su7300 and i have a quick question. As my understanding goes, and correct me if im wrong please, in order to achieve 2.00ghz overclock i jus have to disconnect or break or w.e that pin14 thingie??? Is this correct???
     
  9. some guy

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    it depends on which PLL clock generator you have. there are 2 that are know of.

    the first post has instructions on how to see which PLL you have. until we know that we cant do much for you.
     
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    Got it. I will be back with that info. Thanks for getting back to me sir.
     
  11. Uzii305

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    I have the SLG, so is this bad news??
     
  12. some guy

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    not really. i do too. it just gives you less options.to try 2.0Ghz just connect PIN7 to PIN55 (or any other 3.3v PIN) with a 10k resistor.. make sure you set the BIOS to OC mode before doing this. if not you wont boot up. as you laptop will try to run at 2.6ghz with 1600Mhz RAM.

    if your not stable there is a VID mod you can do thats pretty easy.

    there are videos on youtube to help you take apart your m11x
     
  13. Uzii305

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    How wouod i know wats pin7 or pin55?? Wats a 10k resistor??? How do i connect? Does dat involve soldering?? Im pretty much a rookie at this the most i done is replace ram, gpu, cpu, hdd dats it power supply etc is there a more detailed explanation anywhere?? Thank u and sorry for bothering so much
     
  14. some guy

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    na its cool man.

    this is however no easy mod. i bought a super small soldiering iron for this mod ($20 from radioshack).

    this pic should let you understand how small we are talking here for reference. (this is not what you do for 2.0ghz)

    View attachment 60878

    im tryin gto get a pic uploaded now of my finished job.

    brb


    edit:

    actual mod should look something like this. 2.0ghz.jpg
     
  15. tassadar898

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    uzii305 make sure you do tons of research if you decide to do this (or dont do it at all) cause you void your warranty and can end up with a broken laptop very easily.
     
  16. some guy

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    red circle is where you need to mod.

    2011-01-24_17-57-35_953.jpg

    this is the 2.0Ghz mod

    2011-01-24_17-56-48_917.jpg
     
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    That is a nice clean job on the mod. I will be re-visiting this in a year ;)
     
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    thank you kind sir.

    in the end i had some resin residue left over on the pins but i didnt want to take the chance of bumping PIN7 and having to re-solider it for the 10th time.

    the grey stuff you see is double sided tape. i used it to keep the resistor off the mobo. i also used a single strand of wire to connect PIN7. going directly to th resistor seems to not hold up as well unless you could get a nice blob on there. which is impossible with out bridging more than one pin, unless ist the pins on the corners.
     
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    Hey someguy, so how bout i send u my m11x, you do the 2ghz mod for me, and we work out a price eh? Lol cus man im itching for 2.00ghz. I dont have the balls to do this. I love my laptop. From the moment i first laid eyes on it i loved it. If i messed it up id be so mad at myself. Im sure i could do the mod so sure i jus dont have the balls to mess with my baby. Maybe i should practice on my old desktops mobo. I think im jus gona send it to someguy. Hes a nice guy, hell do it.
     
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    lol. i actually told someone else on here i would consider doing the mod for $50. if he just took care of shipping. the mod its self is pretty easy for me to do now considering ive tried like 50 different combinations on my own laptop. its just the stress testing and VID mod( if necessary) that make things take a up some time.

    i swear i could disassemble one of these buggers in less than 2 minutes blindfolded now. lol
     
  21. Uzii305

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    Dats a reasonable price ill take dat what state is it goin 2
     
  22. Kevinmcg

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    Id pay 50 bucks for that.
     
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    Just remember, stability is not guaranteed. The best chance of success without a VID mod is if the CPU has a stock VID of <1.0v, since that seems to correlate with the limit of overclocking. With no VID mod, there will be very little effect to battery life.
     
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    I aint even playing ill do it tell me ur email well work it out
     
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    i will seriously consider it.

    right now im just not 100% sure i want to do this for people for reasons of libility. getting sued for someones laptop getting bricked for whatever reason out of my control doesnt sound like fun. the job it self isnt even intimidating to me at all now that i have this awesome tiny soldiering iron.

    i just dont want to get screwed...
     
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    lol i feel you... i hate being such a pest about this but can u give a little brief summary as to how the soldering process goes??? i never soldered nothing in my life and wat materials do you recommend me to buy. im a handyman kinda guy i do all the fixes at my house, im good with my hands i jus have no experince soldering.
     
  27. some guy

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    its all good man.

    soldiering is pretty straight forward. you use the iron to heat up the solider(conductive metal) to the point when it becomes liquid. then you just touch together the stuff you want to be connected. move the iron away and the liquid turns to a solid almost instantly and holds the stuff together. you can pre solider tips of wire before hand and then stick them to whatever your about to connect with the iron. thats called "tinning" and it helps out a lot.

    just use a magnifying galss and a lot of light (mutiple light sources is best) when working with stuff this small. you can get everything you need from radio shack. if you get lucky and the person working knows anything about the store aside from selling cell phones they can help you pick up what you need as far as that stuff goes.
     
  28. Kevinmcg

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    LOL i worked at radioshack and they make all their money off of cell phones now its true. They also make commission off of them.
     
  29. some guy

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    well i can see why they chose to do that. the idea of the store its self is dieing as ppl dont tinker like the used to... they had to sell something to keep tye doors open. most ppl dont even care how stuff works anymore. and if somthing breaks.... pfft. just get a new one.

    i cant tell you how many thimes a freind was throwing somthing away and i took it home and fixed it with less than $5 in parts invested. i think ppl like me are a dieing breed cuz stuff is so cheap these days that ppl arent forced to figure stuff out.
     
  30. Kevinmcg

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    Yea, i'm interested in learning to solder stuff and how it works but not on my 550 dollar laptop. If it broke and it was out of warrany i'd try it.

    PS college student.
     
  31. euchrid_eucrow

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    I was amazed that my local radioshack actually had resistors. The circuit board/parts/soldering section seems to get smaller and smaller each time I walk in there.
     
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    I know that I appreciated the selection they had during my senior design project as a EE last spring haha. Would have been nicer if they had power MOSFETs though
     
  33. Uzii305

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    Completly agree with you (except my laptop cost 641). Thats y im gona strip my old 2004 dell desktop and solder and solder and solder till i perfect the art lol oh and a little off topic, the razer nostromo IMO is the best thing to happen to pc gaming since the first half life. Jus received it today and wow gaming is so much funner on this thing i love it but yea ill post back once my little soldering trials are underway.
     
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    i love mine. i just wish it had one more row of keys. i also wish it had brail like bumps to know where your hand is so i melted tiny lil holes with a lighter and a needle so i know my finger placement.
     
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    my suggestion.....
    overvolt the GT335M for further overclock to hit 8300 3dmak06..... :)
     
  36. User Retired 2

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    An alternative to paying US$10 for setfsb

    Here is Kravis' setfsb source code SetFSB_CS.zip that is used here, binary here. Can someone modify the ICS9LPRS365BGLF.cs in the source to do a PLL write as per the first post, duplicate below, for the ICS9LPRS387 PLL, compile it and release a binary?

    FYI: a TME-unlocked HP 2530P/6730B's ICS9LPRS397 PLL requires the exact same PLL writes to overclock so the final binary could be used for ICS9LPRS387 and ICS9LPRS397 PLLs.

    The final binary would also be faster than Abo's setfsb, which takes up to 10seconds to downclock to a lower FSB.
     
  37. cookinwitdiesel

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    I assume that this new version would also not work with the SLG though?
     
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    SLG is not software programmable. Only have a FSLx PLL pinmod option for overclocking.
     
  39. jai554

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    vss is to increase voltage and vcc is to decrease voltage right????
    how if i connect VID3+Vss it will increase the cpu voltage by 0.1V......
    am i right???? correct me if im wrong......
     
  40. euchrid_eucrow

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    Well, i gave it a shot. Unfortunately i just couldn't seem to get it right. (specifically a good solder joint) Those pins are tiny!

    Got it on there a few times but it wouldn't boot. After a few tries it seemed to be taking its toll on the pin so i cut my losses.

    Might try again at some point but not for a while.
     
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    i felt the same way man. if you read earily in the thread i almost quit. :l

    then i re-grouped and bought a smaller iron from radio shack. and now im at 2.0Ghz :)

    just tryin to pump you up ;)
     
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    Here's a TME-unlock applied to a HP 2530P following a similar mod style as performed by some guy. The TME-unlock +dualIDA bios allowing the SL9400-1.86 to be clocked up to 2.6Ghz. An ebay overclocked 2530P + GTX460 DIY ViDock via it's expresscard slot being a business grade alternative to a M11xR1.
     
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    :) Thanks for the encouragement. Next time i'm near a radio shack i'll see if i can get my hands on a smaller iron.
     
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    I've been there with another laptop (Acer 1410). I won't touch my M11x. Although after the fact I did realize that if I used a tiny solder tip I probably could have been successful. I thought I had steady hands, but after trying to deal with points that small, I realized my hands weren't as steady as I thought! :( I had to hold my wrist with my other hand to keep it steady enough.
     
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    first things first... im a new owner of a SLG who has a lot of experience soldering and im looking to do a FSLx mod.

    ok now thats out of the way i have a question i hope someone can help me with regards to this mod.

    i noticed that my OC mode allows me to hit 1.73GHZ.. that would mean that its running on a multiplier of 6.5 correct? as wouldn't the fsb be running at 266mhz in the OC mode?

    also i hear some people are only getting 1.6ghz in OC mode..why is that? could this be due to possibly a multiplier change to 6 in a different bios revision?

    so now what im getting at... since if im correct and my multiplier id at 6.5 in OC mode, if i where to do the 333mhz mod wouldnt my cpu then be running at 2.16ghz instead of 2ghz like other have got with the 333mhz FSLx mod?


    maybe im missing something or thinking about it wrong? please enlighten me. :)

    thanks
     
  46. DavyGT

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    The BIOS Overclock mode does not give a 6.5 multiplier, only a 6 multiplier. The reason for this is that it is a side effect to the workaround Dell uses for Overclocking- it locks the CPU to the lowest multiplier (6x) and lowest VID (.9v). This thread has more information about the multiplier. Pretty much every application reads a 6.5 multiplier in OC mode even though it's 6x- only CPU-Z, Core Temp and maybe WPrime are correct.

    If you were to do the 333mhz mod without OC mode enabled, you will have 2.16Ghz/1333mhz RAM.
     
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    thanks for explaining... now another question what are the ratio differences between with oc and with out? just trying to figure out how you got the 2.16 in non OC mode. thanks :)

    and why hasnt anyone had the guts to rip the SU7300 out and replace it with a SP9400... seems like we have all the info to make it work now :)

    what a tedious soldering task that would be.. but its possible lol
     
  48. DavyGT

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    With OC mode, the RAM ratio is 2:3. Without OC mode, 1:2. Users have been getting better clocks with OC mode despite being on .9v and the 6x multiplier since RAM is first to stop clocking. The problem is that the M11x will not boot with timings greater then CL6. some guy tried using a Kingston HyperX 1333mhz kit, the fastest RAM available and he couldn't boot at 1333mhz for the 333mhz FSLx mod.

    No one bothered to replace the SU 7300 because it's a BGA CPU- it's soldered on and it's too much trouble removing it, reballing it and replacing it, let alone trying to source a replacement CPU.
    We don't even know if the BIOS will support it since we can't load it into an editor to update CPU support and that's before we even looked at the TDP (25W). It's not a desoldering task, it's a reballing exercise.

    Massive kudos to anyone that tries though- if it works, it's faster then an R2 i7 166 with TS and that's before we factor in Dual IDA.
     
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    Has anyone looked at the bios of the M11x R1 to unlock overclocking features? I know that the chipset is capable of alot more than the OC mode here. Proved that with my Asus UL80Vt
     
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    I did ask Kizwan a long time ago. He couldn't do it and I don't know how to reverse engineer the BIOS.

    EDIT: I read that it's not possible to change voltage if support wasn't already included in BIOS at The New Rebels Haven, a community of BIOS modders. So really, the only features we can get is 333mhz BSEL and maybe CL7 timing support.
     
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