How to pinmod and further overclock the M11x R1 (SLG= Hardmod only)

awesome thanks for the info..

well i guess ill try out the mod that some guy did to start off with and see how that goes

ill keep you guys updated with my results

 

Oh, I'll get to it again. It's like having a itch you can't quite scratch.

I like to think of myself as having steady hands (worked as a model builder for a while) but still those pins have got to be .3mm!

I've got a registration exam next week but once that's out of the way i'll most likely give it another shot.

 

6. Byte 0E (14) is used to control the front side bus speed. By default in both overclock and stock modes, it is 68. Increment each number by one to increase FSB clockspeed by 2.5mhz. Follow the sequencing structure: The sequencing structure is 0 to 9 then A to F.
For example, at 69, the next number to increment to is NOT 70, but 6A.

I dont get what you guys do on that stage do you just change the 68 to anything? if not what did you guys put? i wanna get at least 2Ghz or slightly more

 

To increase FSB, you need to manually program the PLL by increasing 68. You change it to the next number, 69 to start increasing clockspeed.
What I tried to explain was the hexadecimal system- there are numbers inbetween 69 and 70. Putting in 70 will give a massive FSB jump. Those numbers compose of the first digit and one of the first 6 digits of the alphabet as the second digit.

In sequence, they are arranged as such:
68
69
6A
6B
6C
6D
6E
6F
70
...

For 2Ghz, I think you need to change 68 to 80.

 

You got 2.07 Ghz correct? so that means you did from 68 to 83? And +1 rep for this epic thread

 

I used 87. Something is strange about the size of the mhz increase each number brings- they are different with OC on and off. With OC mode on, changing 68 to 78 gives 230mhz, an increase of 30mhz, while with OC mode off, it increases by 40mhz.

I think this can be related to Register 13- both 13 and 14 are changeable for smaller or larger clock adjustments.

You do understand that setting the PLL manually is necessary every bootup right?

 

WAIT!? so you have to launch SetFSB everytime i boot and OC the cpu?

 

Yes. For now, that is the only free option.

 

Everytime i boot up i just change the 68 to 80? is that what you're tryin to say? lol

 

It's not just 68 to 80.

 

ok phew... i can live with that

 

You know you can avoid SetFSB by further modding through a FSLx mod (requires soldering)? That will allow you to boot up at 2Ghz, like it's stock. I'd rather you do the TME mod first if you can though, to prove you are stable at 2Ghz.

 

Just ordered a refurb R1 today. It just has 2GB RAM so I want to upgrade. Ideally - 8GB...but what I've read in this thread so far (I checked every page, lol) is that the Kingston HyperX 1333 7CAS is the best ( Newegg.com - Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1333 Laptop Memory Model KHX1333C7S3K2/4G). Any options you guys recommend in the 8GB range? Is it worth "risking" it (i.e. my OC not working due to RAM) for 8GB? I was looking at this set (8GB) for $65 after rebate:

Newegg.com - PNY Optima 8GB (2 x 4GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Laptop Memory Model MN8192KD3-1066

 

the M11x uses Cas 6 timings nomatter what. so you need RAM that will run @ Cas 6 form whatever mhz you are running. that in mind... the HyperX kit is the best we can try to use cuz it uses the lowest Cas we can find for RAM above 1066mhz. you will need RAM similar to this in order to get over 2.0ghz.

right now im using the stock ram to get 2.0ghz @ 1000mhz Cas 6. if i tried for say 2.16ghz it would fail cuz i would need 1333mhz RAM @ Cas 6 and most if not all 1066mhz ram would cry if you tried that.

 

Thanks - the PNY kit I linked to above is 1066mhz with CAS7 and 4GBx2. Is that worth a shot? It's $65 versus $80 for only 4GB. Then again, I don't want to risk my OC chances. It appears from what you posted above that the RAM is important but not paramount?

EDIT: I'm only interested in going to 2GHz (or slightly below that) - if that matters. My goal is to enjoy playing BF:BC2 on this thing.

 

as i said above. it will determine your max OC.

@ 2.0ghz you would be asking the RAM to do 1000mhz @ Cas 6. if you think it can handle that them by all means.


edit: everything i have been saying refers to the SLG PLL. im not sure which PLL you have and or how it may differe from the SLG.

 

How would you go about extracting the .rom of the bios to look at it in an editor? It is just an exe package right now that does not extract before running. I ask because I am quite interested in altering the way that the bios handles the ram and OC stuff (eg it is very poorly done currently....)
I would like to see an OC Mode WITH speedstep and with the 1:2 ram ratio (in addition to support for higher cas ram)

 

that would be awesome but 99% sure someone tried already and got some error and a force close.

 

Just decided to cancel the R1 and get an R2 i5. Refurb was $729 for i5/4GB/250. Pretty good, IMO. Only $130 more than buying an R1 Refurb with the HyperX RAM.

 

That will get a little more performance and less battery.

 

Yeah, my main goal is to play BF:BC2 multiplayer with 30 fps. The R1 has some element of risk to that - i.e. if the OC does not work, etc. I hope the i5 can manage rock-solid 30 fps in MP. I can only find numbers for the i7.

 

For gaming the cpu difference between the 2 will be minimal....and they use the exact same GPU.

 

In order to get at the .rom file you DL the version of the BIOS update you already have installed. (I'm going to assume A05) You run the installer and it'll extract itself to 'C:\Temp\Winphlash'. It'll try to run but since you already have that version installed the installer will just exit. It doesn't delete the extracted files so you can just get them from the directory above.

Unfortunately the file won't open in Phoenix BIOS editor.

 

the difference between a pinmodded core2duo and an i5 is somewhat minimal, but games that can utilize 4 threads you will see an improvement in fps with the i5. my i5 overclocked to 164, with a gpu overclock playing at 1080p on medium graphics i get about mid 30 fps with dips to 20 under mass dust, open fire, basically a worse case scenario with BFBC2 online play. make sure you use throttlestop.

 

I will try that, thanks!

Hopefully I will be able to figure something out with it

 

I'd like to see you be able to mod the bios to GM45/GS45 chipset sets and locks the ram ratio based on the running FSB. Worth perusing the chipset datasheet.

 

It would also be interesting to see how the BIOS is implementing the FSB jump in OC mode. May be the equivalent of the pin mods people are doing - but doable from BIOS

But I do not want to get any hopes up, will have to look around at it first.

 

Good idea. This mod is really aimed at the M11x R1 early adopters who are sick of their aging CPU.

I used TSBench as a benchmark since it can use all threads. A 2Ghz R1 gets 50s with 2 threads and an i5 166 TS (also 2Ghz...) gets 45s with 4 threads, both tested with 32M. 10% extra performance thanks to more threads and better architecture, not enough to make a mindblowing difference.

Looks like it does something with BSEL- it's always locked to 6x and .9v. I tried to reverse engineer 266mhz to 333mhz but didn't find anything of use in IDA Pro or even load the file in modbin6 (Yes, it's an Award bios editor, but seeing as Award and Phoenix merged for 13 years, it's worth a try).

Kizwan managed to load the BIOS but couldn't do anything since there was nothing useful that was hidden. I looked at reverse engineering the BIOS and failed. Perhaps someone who understands assembly language can step up.

 

TS bench is odd because i got 27 seconds on 32M on wPrime. what did you get on your 2ghz c2duo on wprime? Interested in the comparisons.

 

TSBench is not odd because it runs differently to WPrime. You'll find many different Pi benchmarks giving you different results from their coding. Try increasing priority on TSBench.
I couldn't get WPrime working on my R1 and as you know, I already got rid of it. I also had it terribly optimized- it was slower then some guy's 2Ghz R1 despite running at 2.07Ghz. I was using some guy's TSBench result anyway, so ask him for WPrime.

 

what am i doing now?

 

what are you doing?!

 

never used wPrime before.

am i using the multi threaded one? here:

Measure Computer Performance | wPrime Multithreaded Benchmark

 

Yes, that's the benchmark. Use 2.04, that seems to be standard.

 

And make sure you go to advanced settings and set it to 2 threads

 

ok. ill run this tonight after i get out of work.

 

sorry for double post but whats this hardware scaning busnies all about? its been "scanning" for like 10min and still not done.

i hit shift to disable it the first time but it woulndnt let me save my score because of not having my hardware detected...

edit:



is this good?

 

Try downloading and running version 1.55, that is what is the common one everyone uses

 

with wprime 1.55

 

Well this is my Asus UL80Vt at 1.73 so it looks like it is working to me
scook9's 44sec 913ms wPrime 32m run with Core 2 U7300 (1.30Ghz) @ 1733.5MHz

I will do a run at 2080 MHz and see how it compares. Will do it when I get home, with my HyperX from the M17x Will also throw a few tweaks in there to see how high I should set the bar for you (as a teaser, with one stick of slower ram I still beat your time running at a slower clock speed)

 

i don't follow.

 

I will be able to beat your time by a fair bit once I have 2 sticks of ram (dual channel so faster) that run at lower latency (more speed!) while being at a lower clock speed (2080 MHz)

We need to teach you some benchmark tweaks

 

gotcha

fyi: im on the stock 2gb set (until i get my HyperX RAM back from RMA)and my actual CPU speed is 2.0ghz(1995mhz) not 2.16ghz. thats just the program assuming my multiplier is 6.5. but its only 6.

 

I see, then in that case my score seems less phenominal but at least it is faster like it should be then

 

Here is what my Asus did with the same CPU just to give a reference. That is high as it goes unless I volt mod it I think.

37.924s

 

nice!

im going for the gold when my RAM comes back from RMA. i will attempt 2.4Ghz. ill probably need to go up to 1.1Vcore but im 99% sure the heat wont be a issue as ive ran 1.1Vcore @ 2.0Ghz before and my temps were just above 60c under Intel Burn max stress.

if the RAM can handle it im woundering what my 3Dmark will be... 9k?

 

I really lament the poor bios design in the M11x....otherwise it too would be able to OC that well

Update: Just opened the M11x Bios in Phoenix Bios Editor and looked around some at the strings file, there may be a few things that can be unlocked to give us some better overclocking control. I have someone working on my M17x BIOS right now, depending on how they are able to do with that I may ask them to look at the M11x next.

 

Just out of curiosity, how'd you get past the no BCPs found error? Whenever i tried to open the file in PBE that's all i'd get back.

 

DO WANT!

 

Just opened it in PBE 2.2.1.3