How to pinmod and further overclock the M11x R1 (SLG= Hardmod only)

Ah, i've got an older version.

 

Finally got my HyperX RAM back today. Im stressing it right now to see if ts atleast stable at my current settings and so far so good.

For those waiting on the 2. 4Ghz mod: durrning the last few weeks i realized my M11x was awesome enough that i could finally get around to RMAing my desktop mobo(it had been randomly unstable for som time now) i have to wait about two weeks untill my desktop board comes back from RMA before i can further mod the M11x. I cant be with out a capabile PC for 2weeks if anything goes wrong with the 2. 4Ghz mod.

Did you guys get anyware with that Bios situation?

 

free alternative to setfsb that does a commandline overclock

ics9lprs387bklf m11xR1 owner's that do the tme-unlock may wish to use the free setpll package to overclock. Has been confirmed by maddi2k to work. Also comes with a resume-setpll.vbs to automatically do the overclock when do a sleep/resume.

 

This RAM f*&%ing sucks!

Im asking for a refund this time. I failed the stress test. Tried playing some games and got the same gfx corruption and driver crashes i got the last time. So i put the stock 2 gb back in and no issues what so ever. Its pretty sad really... the so called performance RAM with heatspreaders cant even run stable @ 1000mhz yet the crappy stock RAM can?

Looks like until some "good" 1200mhz cas 6 RAM is produced 2. 4Ghz is just not going to happen... :-(

 

Given that the HyperX stuff is at the slowest of the Cas 7 options (there are several speeds that all fall under Cas 7 - you can see these in Thaiphoon Burner) for 1333, I would not expect to get anything that is good at Cas 6 1200 unless you up the voltage.

 

I know this is from the first post but this is bugging me (in the sense that I can't get my head around it).

Assuming a 1:2 ratio the ram when running the non overclocked mode will be running at 400MHz (or 800 DDR) not 457MHz.

If the FSB is increased to 228MHz the ram speed on a 1:2 divider (double FSB) would be 456MHz (912Mz DDR).

I assume something is amiss with point 5b as I can't figure out how running a FSB of 228MHz would overclock the RAM (beyond 533MHz) on a 1:2 divider.

Again, sorry to bring this up (given how long the thread is) but it is one of those things that I can't get out of my head.

Oh and Kudos to those who found out about this mod, took the first steps in trying it and have created this thread for others to follow. I am sorely tempted to do this myself but I really don't want to brick my M11x (I don't have steady hands).

 

I share your confusion. The math isnt making sence to me right now...

However with regards to OCing the RAM he may be saying this in the sence of the Cas settings. Like for Exmp. Going over 456mhz(912mhz DDR) RAM speed, the laptop stays at CAS6 but the RAM's settings are set for CAS7?

 

I said "increased beyond 228mhz..."

I'm referring to the SPD table for CL6 timings, since higher timings are not possible. Use CPUZ to check your SPD. You are assuming the RAM will run at optimal timings, which it won't. The R1 refuses to boot with anything other then with CL6 timings.

At stock, the RAM is clocked at 400mhz. It's only when you start overclock ram speeds go up.

 

Ah hang on, that is making more sense now. (Sorry I am not on my M11x at the moment so can't check CPU-Z).

To get this clear in my head - The ram is rated at 533MHz (1066 DDR) but only at say CL7. For it to run CL6 (the slackest the M11x supports) it will only run at 457MHz (914 DDR) before it is essentially being overclocked at that CL rating.

I was forgetting that the M11x won't give the optimal timings for the memory (or at least won't give you the option to choose the optimal timings) and thus depites being rated at 1066 it won't run at this speed with CL6.

Am I am now along the right lines or barking up the wrong tree?

 

The CAS is not changing if you use SetFSB because it is set at boot according to the speed at boot.

For the Hardmod I think it is just the poorly written bios with the artificial limit at Cas 6. As for capabilities of the ram, my Asus was able to do 320 FSB (1280 MHz RAM) with the HyperX ram still at Cas 6. But I have one of the older kits that appears to be much higher quality.

 

I want to be able to do RAM overclocks so I can run faster memory (namely these memory cards). I'm planning on selling this laptop so I can't join in on the fun here.

 

You will never be able to utilize that ram in the M11x

The only laptop I know of that has ever supported XMP is the M17x R3

That ram would run at 1333 cas 9 at best in a non xmp laptop (every other one)

 

Damn.
Guess I'll just buy an SSD and hold out for the R3.

 

I attempted this mod today and failed.

I tried to cut the pin with a needle and it took be about 10 attempts before it showed up as unlocked in SetFSB, then after restarted, it was locked again. I went back to try to cut it better, but now my m11x won't boot up. The AlienFX lights up with a blank screen for about 5 seconds and then it shuts off. What should i do now? Is my machine dead?

 

maybe you cut part of other pin too? you can try to solder the pin to join the two parts you cut, your system should work after that

 

ALWAYS use a magnifying glass... it prevents problems like these. and yes, what utrillalm said. should work.

 

Hi.....
I Have t6500 processor
after i cut pin 2 on the slg clock gen..... it wont boot....
can anybody help me????

 

Have you "connected" any pins when you were cutting them?

 

what do you mean??

 

again....

if the only thing you did was cut pin 2 and your laptop wont boot. you ether need:

more CPU voltage.
faster/better RAM.
more chipset voltage.

i know you said your RAM OCed fine but if the timings dont adjust as you raise the base clock your RAM will still fail. thats why we are having issues getting higher OC on the M11x

in the case that in curring pin 2 you messed up one of the other pins you would need to fix those first in order to boot. make sure only pin2 is cut and the other pins are fine.

 

I thought when you pin-mod you need to change the processor. At least thats what I had to do for my m5550... I had the Core 2 Duo T5500 and had to change to a Pentium-M processor for a ~2.2 OC but it was WAY more performance.

 

now im typing this from my laptop....
ive added 0.2V to my CPU and downclocked my RAM to 500MHz but still doesnt work.....
i have to make BSEL mod to my CPU in order to boot successfully but my multiplier is locked to lowest because i have Intel chipset......
my cpu is now running @ 266x6 = 1.6GHz only.....

 

There is one register that might let people with this PLL overclock through setfsb/setpll. It's register 14 (Vendor Manufacturing/Production Test Mode).

This register could be a frequency control register, matching what you see as register 14 here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...67-overclocking-p8400-pm45-2.html#post5033899

My PLL seems to be pretty much the same as SLG8SP556. After a TME mod, I was able to use register 14 to set the frequency of the FSB from 166mhz to 133mhz and 100mhz. But most of the time my notebook freezes whenever I change this register. Maybe you people with the m11x will have better luck.

Though you do need to make sure TME is disabled to try this.

For my pll I found that I needed to set bit 7 of byte 14 to 1. bit 0 to 2 would need to be changed according to the frequency select table. bit 3 had to be set to 1 or my screen would go "funny".

 

Good work. So a software programming option exists for SLG8SP556V PLL owner's who have done the same TME-unlock PLL pinmod. This means have more BCLK options other than 200, 266 or 333Mhz as shown below:

Code:

b7: 1 SW (Output frequency controlled by bit[6:2])

b6 b5 b3 b3 b2

0  0  0  0  0  266
0  1  0  0  0  274.6
1  0  0  0  0  280
0  0  1  1  1  300
0  1  1  1  1  309
1  1  1  1  1  324
0  0  1  0  0  333.3
0  1  1  0  0  343.3
1  0  1  0  0  350
1  1  1  0  0  360
0  0  1  1  0  400
0  1  1  1  0  412
1  0  1  1  0  420
1  1  1  1  0  432

bit[1:0] 0:1

Using setpll to program the SLG8SP556V

Set BCLK_B1 to be byte 14 (0xE) in the [INIT] section of SLG8SP556V.lut, then add the [BCLK] section to contain:

Code:

[BCLK]
266, 81
275, A1
280, C1
300, 9D
309, BD
324, FD
333, 91
343, B1
350, D1
360, F1
400, 99
412, B9
420, D9
432, 7D

 

I tought SLG8SP556V clock generator cannot being unlocked.....

 

thats pretty sweet guys!

for my self tho i dont feel the need to open this thing back up for 2.1ghz. im rock solid stable with the hardmod @2.0ghz and i kinda like not haveing to mess with anyhing. i just turn on the laptop and its ready to rock @ 2.0ghz.

completly content with that.

congrats to anyone who does the mod tho. id like to see the nummbers.

 

hi some guy.....
can you help me how to make my cpu to boot at 2.79GHz??
ive cutted pin 2 and i just got a black screen.....
this is my ram SPD:
Samsung DDR2 667MHz 5-5-5-15.spd

 

If you did the TME-unlock then you could still bootup at 2GHz and extend up to the point of stability after that. I believe you had 1.1V Vcore at one point. I've updated the table with 343, 350, 360, 400, 412, 420, 432Mhz. So consider that you'd have the possibility of running 2.07, 2.10, 2.16, 2.40, 2.59Mhz. The Silego datasheet I looked at suggests it can be programmed to anything you like with the right M/N divider in place. The gap between 2.16 and 2.4 is likely where you'd hit the maximum.

As to PLL software management, setpll can be installed to do an automatic overclock-on-resume or startup. It takes 0.2 seconds to run and is almost completely transparent once all configured. Fast and completely flexible as to what you want to write to the PLL.

 

there isnt anything else i can tell you that i havent already said multiple times in the dozzens of PMs that we have had back and forth. I dont own you laptop. all i know is that according to you you have the same PLL and voltage controller. i told you what i did and the other things that are possible with the SLG PLL. if you cant understand what others and i have tried to tell you, you probably shouldnt be messing with your laptop in this way. if you do in fact have the same PLL and voltage controller all the info you need is in this thread. and all the PMs i have sent to you. i dont know what else to tell you.

if i were you i would try to reconnect pin 2 and put my laptop back together.

 

my laptop works for now because i make BSEL mod to it but it boot at 266x6=1.6GHz......
can you help me to reprogram the SPD??
maybe if i downclock the ram, make the timing higher and add 0.2V the laptop will boot at 2.79GHz
Thank You....

 

i see. i didnt do the TME mod tho. i thought it only worked on the ICS.

the only prob i see is the RAM timing issue. i dont really see anything much over 2.0ghz happening with out crazy RAM with super low CAS rating. am i wrong in that respect?

 

Since my R1 has SLG I'm very interested to see how this latest development works out. Being as mine's only a month old, I'm not quite ready to experiment with it myself just yet. Very exciting though! Great find.

 

I've been out of the loop for a while, but if i'm reading this correctly, the initial cutting pin 14 mod might allow for a software overclock for SLG users? Don't want to get my hopes up, so i thought i'd ask.

 

it appears that the guys hard at work have found a way. however im not sure if anyone has done it on the M11x yet.

to be honest tho im not sure what pin unlocks the TME on the SLG PLL. i never really worried about the TME mod cuz us SLG owners were out of luck... untill now.

for me tho i dont see a reason to further mod mine untill the Cas 6 lock can be removed from the bios or some really awesome RAM comes out. for me to go through the mess of taking this thin apart to get only around 2.1ghz just doesnt seem worth the effort for the amount of speed gained will only be noticed in benchmarks and no one seems to care about that anymore.

if i could realistically get around 2.4ghz with 1.1vcore id be al about it. but as said already i dont think thats possible with the Cas 6 locked bios.

 

Hmmm...i went back in after my last attempt and failed again (laptop wouldn't post) i was able to undo what i had done and gave up for the time being. Having said that i can handle (knock on wood) cutting a pin, just not soldering to it. I'll have to keep an eye on this board again and see what develops.

It'd be funny if it turned out that cutting 14 worked for both the ICS and the SLG...

 

can anybody explain to me what is "Cas"????

 

Cas is to my understanding is the mesurment of latency the RAM has for eash clocl cycle. so if the RAM has a CAS of 6 the memory controller waits 6 clock cycles before each time it talks to the RAM.

i could be totally wrong tho.

 

Just the tiniest bit of research is needed to answer the simple questions
CAS latency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

Ok. I'm trying to follow through the info on the last page regarding SLG8SP556. It's way over my head but I'll do some research and see what I can learn.

The most obvious question I have is - How is the TME unlocked on SLG8SP556? I don't follow this point. Are we assuming that PCI2 pin 14 needs to be cut?

How much similarity can be assumed between SLG8SP556 and SLG8UM540?

 

Pin 14 needs to be pulled low. I followed this:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...ebook-2530p-owners-lounge-10.html#post7121833

Well if you compare the 2 datasheets, they seem pretty similar but not 100% the same.

 

So cutting the pin is not enough..hmm. Pulled low via a 10k resistor or straight to ground? Basically the same hardmod show in the OP?

Thanks so much for the info.

 

I am not sure, cutting the pin might work, but I would do it the other way to make it easy to undo this mod.

Need to use a resistor, unless you disconnect the TME pin first.

Yeah that should do the trick. But you would be the first to do it with this PLL so can't be sure what will happen.

 

That's what I'm afraid of. I'm excited to think that a software overclock may be possible for SLG. But not sure I want to prove the concept. My R1 is less that 30 days old.

I think R1 owners who were interested in further overclock have either done it already or are like me, afraid of wrecking their lappy. I'd would have thought there would be a bit more excitement amongst SLG owners

 

I was willing to "try" cutting the pin for the ICS mod, but, just like everything else in life, I just had to have an SLG, and the FSLx mod is kinda hard..Specially for someone who barely passed his electronics class lol So no overclocking for me..

Have a question regarding RAM, if I don't make any hard mods, would getting say a kingston hyperx 1333mhz be a waste? I have a stock samsung at 6-6-6-15, I believe the hyperx is 6-5-5-12,would there be a noticable difference? Oh and memset can set my stock samsung to these timings..Since the fsb can only read 1066(or is it 800), I don't see the benefits of getting a 1333..I'm new to all this stuff about overclocking and mem timings so pls bear with me..I'm not entirely sure about what I'm saying..Thanks

 

@BeastRider, if you read the latest posts in this thread, you will see that you have a chance to OC the SLG PLL after a TME mod through setfsb.

 

Sorry I skipped from page 6..My bad..But assuming I don't do any hard mods, just the BIOS overclock, will getting a 1333 hyperx make a difference? or does it only apply when doing the hard mods? and with memset, it's possible to set the stock 6-6-6-15 mem timings to the 6-5-5-12 timings the hyperx uses right? plus 1333 won't be of any help since the fsb (without mods) can only make use of 1066(or 800)mhz right?

 

Not sure about the 1333mhz ram.

You should be able to get the timings you want with memset. Thaiphoon burner would be even better (lets you change the cas).

 

That's good to know, thought there was no way to change CAS except through BIOS which is out of the question.

 

BTW, would adjusting memory timings make a noticeable difference even if no hard-mod overclocks are made to the fsb? or would it bottleneck the ram anyway?

 

I don't think there will be a noticeable difference, but every little bit adds up.