M11x - WoW Performance, Issues, General Discussion

anyone who has done the uninstall please post your results!

 

What was your results lastnight with the 25 man ICC?

 

When in combat the fps goes around 14 - 19 fps when out of combat walking around etc it hovers around 27-45 fps

 

Well could be ok as my base PC drops to sub 20 on some of the fights and that is after I turn down most of the settings (Q6600@3GHz + GTX260). Though 14 is pushing it, but certainly would let me get some 10man action.

Have you tried setting WoW to use only 1 core, rather than 2/3or4?... hehe see I can't wait for it to get here so I can "tweek"

 

Has anyone tried to change the affinitymask? I know there was a patch to fix it, but if you overwrite it its suppose to help some. Can't find original post, but here are the instructions.

World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> Your i7 affinity mask settings REVEALED 3.1

I would like to know and see what the max fps is we can get in 25 mans. I know it runs everything else great. If it can come close to 25fps in boss fights, in 100 percent getting a r2.

 

I haven't got chance for a 25m yet. But yes I do have affinity set on my client before I even got m11x. Apart from this there are also some other useful tweaks like forcing the game engine to has faster vertex draw I populated zone which will boost the over all performance quite a bit too

 

I dont know about anyone else here but I still have a problem when I run wow at 1920x1080 and I go to anyplace where there is nothing going on and the FPS jumps to 60..i get horrible clipping and the fps spikes down then back up over and over.

I get better performance in Dalaran then in a place with nothing going on

Kinda weird as I dont see this at native res.

Maybe Ill try to reinstall WoW...and I do have powermizer off.

 

What settings did you have when raiding ICC25? Just wondering if it would be possible to do the 25 mans with everything on low.

 

iv been running WoW on max graphics, max audio, max everything and i get smooth 30 fps during 25man VOA runs. but i have a m11x r1. soo i dont think the r2 should have any trouble...

 

According to the Blue posts in that thread you no longer have to fiddle with this as they fixed it in 3.3.*.

 

Here is my screenshot of just a 10 man ICC raid....it aint pretty. This should just simply not be..my shadows are not on high either



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^ try re installing the drivers.

 

tried, even restored everything to factory defaults a couple of times. Nothing is working.

 

is your nvidia GPU turning on?

 

i am testing on the new release candidate from Nvidia which you can read it here http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...erde-notebook-driver-258-96-12-07-2010-a.html

Wow seems to gain quite a significant boost in fps around 10-20% on average.

 

Yes its turned on.

I will check out those new drivers. Thanks for the heads up.

 

Let us know how it goes. And for a heads up, I wrote nvidia a week ago and told them what's going on. They're trying to reproduce what's going on and seeing if its on their end.

 

ok i did the driversweeper uninstall and reinstall. i havent had a TON of time to play around with it, but when i logged back into wow after doing it i noticed a HUGE gain my my fps (in pre-BC area). this is without changing any of the video settings from when i was getting crap. BUT now i was getting 20-30 fps jumps (the slowing effect) that people were originally reporting while hooked up to the monitor. i have not tried it outputted to any external display yet. nor have i tried it in any of the frozen wrath areas yet. i'll try to get on tonight and test some of this out.

 

even the r1 sucks for 25 man raiding all settings off and at low, at native res....

use the m11x for leveling or farming thats about it, the occasional 5man, 10 mans are not much better either.

for those of you that say you get 20+ fps in 25 mans(r1 or r2), prove it with a video of gameplay using external camera played on the m11x 11.6 screen and a once around of the laptop. I've used every driver combination, reinstall, install reformat, ssd, ram upgrades, and have never gotten more than 5fps out of a boss fight in 25mans. try doing phase2 halion and rotating with the dragon avoiding cutters, almost impossible(still got penundrum pendant though ). or hope you dont get marked during sindragosa fight, or have to bite people in bql!

my conclusion based on available facts, and own testing....m11x(r1) sucks for WoW endgame content. period.

looks like the r2 isnt any better either.

 

with new drivers now wow seats avg of 31-39fps in crowded dalaran. formerly 20-31fps with same settings. quite a big jump

 

mk1freak - That's a shame, what I suspected sadly. Thanks for testing. Oh well this thread has saved me a lot of money I guess. I'll just have to look into other options. No point buying a laptop to play WoW away from home when it can't handle the content.

 

feel bad for you that you cant solve your problem. althou i wish to prove you wrong but unfortunately i dont have resource to capture video externally. neither i would want to run fraps within raid taking video to take away resources from the system that i can save the juice to squeeze more out of the game. but i will definitely show screenshots of mine running in 25m to show that its not running like what you are experiencing.

 

I was just considering buying a M11x to play World Of Warcraft with, and as I am approaching endgame. I am glad I found this forum, as I planned on using an external monitor for gaming. I have read the whole forum and I do have a couple of questions, sorry for bugging you guys, I'm just not too good with computers.

It seems as if only certain M11x's are having this issue, and even if they are only certain ones are being fixed by the driversweeper uninstall/reinstall? and does the problem usually occur in raids and crowded cities, or all the time?

 

I'll bet that everyone is getting the fps dip/spike when connecting to an external monitor at 1080p, the problem is for this to happen you need to be in an area with almost nothing going on...like the barrens or other old areas. If you are in Dal or one of the WoTLK areas that works the cpu/gpu it doesnt do that weirdness. It almost seems like when you go to one of the old areas the computer goes "Oh I dont have to work hard" so it slows down for a second, then kicks back into gear. I do have powermizer off, and I dont see this occur on my desktop. When I am in the barrens on my desktop is stays at 60.0 flat. Not 40-50-60-50-40-50-60 with jack %&%$ happening in the game in an area where no one is even around in barrens.

If anyone else can test this please do, and I dont mean a test in Dal=)

 

I've raided endgame and cleared ICC multiple times on my m11x r1. I have nearly everything save for model quality set to lowest and consistently get 20-30fps. I play at native resolution, however.

 

thou i havent had chance with 25m since using this laptop. still with how it perform on me so far in wow i am pretty sure keeping it 20-40fps in 25m raid is not an issue. given that in Dal on a populated area i can get fps as high as 30-39 on high. I dont see why it wont make in 25m.

 

ugh, now im back down to like 20 fps in bre bc areas...

its random... sometimes its great 60-100 (with the slow effect down to 40 every 10 sec or so..).. and then later i reboot and turn it on to play and im stuck at like 20ish fps.. i didnt change anything driver/program wise.

powermizer is off when plugged in

nvidia gpu is definatly active..

i get same results w/ and w/o evga running.

update:.... and now its going fine again. wth.

 

This slow effect in old areas is ANNOYING AS HELL. Basically my FPS looks like this in a pre BC area with nothing going on. 60 60 60 60 50 45 45 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 50 45 45 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 55 45 55 60 60 60 60. And everytime it goes down to that 45 it feels like I am in slow motion for a second. This pisses me off in old BGs like Arathi Basin where outside of a fight there isnt much going on and I get those FPS spikes.

Note this is on an external monitor at 1080p

You can even see this slow effect at the LOGIN SCREEN at medium details at 1080p. Just watch the SNOW. Every few seconds it will go into slow motion.

Anything that challenges the GPU will stop this. You wont see this happen in Dalaran or WOTLK areas. Im happy with my 20-30ish FPS in dal because its not spiking all the hell over the place.

 

run wow repair tools with check and repair option. also make sure the 3 items, configuration/caches/addons boxes are checked. Once finish running log back into wow this will start wow afresh also without addons and etcs. re-adjust your video settings accordingly and monitor if you still have problem

PS: your addons and macros should be renamed after the repair. in any case if you want to play it safe you can back up first before running this.

 

So In general the GPU, kind of slacks off when it feels it can? and this happens on 1080 p monitors and not the m11x monitor or another type of external monitor. Are there any results from non-1080 p monitors?

also Kopicha, is that the fix? The post above mine?

 

this is a little complex to explain since different application works differently. I cant say this for all. But as of recent base on some test I did with certain application I learn quite a bit of stuffs. in general the GPU did not really slack off. But its how the CPU/GPU is working together at the point of time. When I find out more that allows me to explain better I will but I dont want to give any misleading information now before anything concrete thing to prove any statement I make.

And yes the above is suppose to "fix" the problem since you reinitialize the entire wow client and also allow wow to revisit your hardware set up and such.


Edit : After wow got repaired and reinitialized when you start the game you need to re-accept the EULA and you will notice your graphics settings drop back to default by WOW's internal hardware detect. Set your resolution to native. As for graphics setting wise. I would recommend to start off with the default medium settings that wow has. Just slide the bar to medium. Then check FPS of the game in different areas to see whats the outcome first before you start going crazy on pushing up the details the way you want. Remember this machine is still a small one after all, dont go too hard on it from the very beginning

Edit 2 : Also regarding the intermittence slow down issue, to be honestly I althou I did not output mine to an external but I know someone here did mention it occurs even in native res on the machine just that its not that obvious. I can 100% assure you that its definitely not for my case. After ppl reporting this problem one of the thing I did was trying to get to somewhere with at least 50-60fps and just stand there not going anything for at least 30mins or so but keep monitoring the FPS. Its very consistent actually. No slowdown or what sort. Assuming the avg FPS is 60, then it will run on avg between 55-60 by just standing there doing nothing althou for sure there are still something happening in the background (its a mmo you cant stop other ppl from moving around or come near you ). If the FPS is running like what I mention its actually normal since every other games it works just the same. In one of the last video I posted before me doing a random daily taken using FRAPS. I am maintaining 50-60fps thru out the run and if you take a close look at hte video there is zero slow down like what ppl describe.

 

initial testing after doing this is showing good things. i'll keep playing w/ it

EDIT!: YOU WIN. this actually took away the hiccup i was having on the native res on teh screen, and fps seem to be staying static @ 55-60 (in pre bc areas). lol @ the easy fix that i was too think to think to do. you rock.

 

I think due to some ppl having problems have been creating a lot of misleading information on this topic. I hope I can help out ppl who have problems but some times there is only that much I can do. Nonetheless I have posted video before. Now I going to post shots which include my game settings for ppl who wants to find out how is m11xR2 with wow.


Here's the screen shots that I just took them at one go. And this are facts on how wow is actually running. Do take note that this is running on battery in Power Saver mode while running the game. And internet connectivity via WiFi. CPU/GPU both at stock clock. Running on Nvidia Verde 258.96 which I have posted with the modded inf 2 days ago.

 

^ how did you get that nvidia GPU on notification?

 

from the nvidia control panel goto view and put a check on Display GPU activity icon in notification area. you can get this from the new drivers I posted

 

cy246, so were you able to attain similar performance as what I have in those screenshots?

mightytank, hows your test so far? any good?

 

^ yah some what, but could you post your fps in 25 man raids during a boss fight.

 

ok I will do that when I had a chance to drop in the run. Been out for awhile so I am on standby lately

 

try a VOA 25 fps drops so much when the orbs come out

 

i hope you are the one to prove me wrong!!

if you can get 25 mans working well enough to do in a pinch when out and about then i will forever sing your praises. who knows maybe i have faulty hardware....yea right :/

 

it must be good because hes not responding haha . I am trying out the same fix too, I will tell you later if it works for me.

Actually on a side note I was doing some testing last night and came across a weird situation. I took all my settings to low then restarted WoW. Logged back in and the FPS where fine. Then I started to gradually to increase everything while trying to maintain my FPS. So everything is on High now and I am getting the same FPS as I was before. Weird stuff.

 

you can look at my screenshots that i recently posted. try to manipulate the same thing with same settings and see if you get the same results?

 

lol yes it is good. I played for about 4 hrs last night and it never dropped lower than 51 fps (pre bc areas). that repair seems to have worked. also i have not seen anymore hiccup while in the native res.

 

i recently installed the new drivers kopicha, and i am getting better frame rate but every 3-5 seconds it drags (feels like a frame lag) and then catches up to speed again and does it over and over. do you know what else i can do to fix this? i have also ran the WoW Repair already.

 

did you run your repair before or after the driver installation? if u did it before then try doing it again. basically the repair is just to reset all settings like as if wow client is launching for the first time and it will do a hardware detect. as you may know its just something to do with optimus. few things that can cause this, bad wow client (can be settings or corrupted files), optimus, gpu powermizer, cpu turbo boost. if really to troubleshoot have to go one by one to find the root.

if you did your driver update make sure its a clean install too. as for the repair, if the time u did it was before the driver update. please try running again. if everything else stll dont work. try to look a few page back. do a compare of your settings to my screenshot. try to set it same way and see what you get. remember to restart wow client after changing majority of your wow gfx settings

 

Is powermizer a seperate program? If it is can you post a link and what I should do with it. Everything is default at the moment.

 

try search for throttling in this forum you will find it

 

What resolution are you running at? It seems more noticable at 1080p to me.

Ive run repair and this issue was never fixed for me. basically it happens when your FPS gets high ~60. When I am in old areas (Pre-BC) I check the box that reduces input lag to REDUCE my framerate to keep this from happening. Heck Ive run Wow on a Mac Mini with a 320M and it doesnt do that in the old areas when it is 60FPS. Keep in mind when you are testing to try to find this issue DONT do it in DAL. You need to be in an area where the FPS pumps up.

Disabling Powermizer didnt fix it for me.

Id give this laptop 11/10 stars if this wasnt happening.

When I do arena matches I also check the 'Reduce Input Lag" to reduce my framerate because otherwise it is around 60 and I get that speed up slow down speed up slow down. With Reduce Input Lag checked I might get 45 45 45 45 45 fps, but with it unchecked ill get 60 60 60 50 40 50 60 60 and with every dip you get that slow effect. Once again not as noticeable at native res. I can tell you that with my Mac Mini it doesnt happen at 60 FPS and that graphics card is MUCH less powerfull.

And again this particular issue isn't about how the game performs in raids or under heavy load in Dal, or in flight paths around Lich King areas..its about a weird oddity that happens in areas where the game should be performing WONDERFULLY but for some reason its as if it thinks it can slack off at these points.

One place where I see it pop up is if you go through the port in Dal to Orgrimmar. As soon as i get to Org my FPS jumps to 60 and it stars to do the speed up slow down thing until I get to the Bank area where there are some players that will kick the FPS down (or make the GPU work)

 

That's my current FPS when I received it. I just did a windows update then patched wow after I got the pre-install.

FPS seems to be fine with wow, and I've tried it on many different configurations

*edit* Changed image host to tinypic instead of photobucket, stupid image resize

 

i never tried running it 1080p and never had the intention to do so. since this laptop is not meant for you to play games that way. GT335M is still a mid range chip. Probably can be as good as it gets at 1366x768 but anything higher than that can be pretty stressful to it. especially given that most ppl will never give up trying to trying everything at the highest setting just because this is an "alienware". do remember too that the mobile version of the similar GPU/CPU always perform slower than the desktop counterpart.

for your problemi really cannot replicate it. i can bump my fps to 60fps even in some area of Dal and I have monitor it over 10mins in one area. i just cant recreate the issue you have about up and down fps. probably try to reinstall your Intel HD drivers. see if that helps. thats as much as I can think for now.