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    M11x Gaming Discussion Thread

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by DR650SE, Feb 25, 2010.

  1. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    an i7 at 180mhz fsb and throttlestop out perform the new sandy bridge i7 thats in the R3.. its been proven more then once.
     
  2. jeremyshaw

    jeremyshaw Big time Idiot

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    ... I cannot even get 160 gaming (SC2, CoD Black Ops) stable, and there are people running around with 180 + TS!?

    The fan already goes beserk when I load it up :(. Oh, well, I'm ditching my silly m11x R2 anyways :p Not gonna look at the m11x line until a major redesign occurs.
     
  3. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    the reason why you cant get past the 160 mark is that your ram is the bottleneck. you need strong ram to overclock the R2. and if you get good ram theres potential to go above 180fsb. and at that speed the temps would stay relatively the same because the voltage is the same.
     
  4. jeremyshaw

    jeremyshaw Big time Idiot

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    I replaced my RAM with 4GB 1866MHz HyperX :( The nice ones with blue heatsinks that one of the early user m11x reviews seemed to like. Oh, well. My hinges blew, anyways :mad:

    EDIT: nvm, it's only 1600MHz, not 1866.
     
  5. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    the hinge can be replaced easily or fixed with some epoxy. but that ram wouldnt matter because its still running at cas6 latency. you would need to flash the sticks to higher timings to get a little more juice out of them.

    i have 2x2gb samsung 1066sticks that go all the way up to almost 1200mhz cas6. the ram is all luck.
     
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    jeremyshaw Big time Idiot

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    ah, I just found out mine are 1600MHz cas9 o.0 Thanks for your help :) Will probably try a little before selling off my R2.
     
  7. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    good luck, if i were you id keep the R2, theres ways to make it feel like a whole new machine, you just need to find some good ram and maybe do the gpu volt mod i helped with.
     
  8. dmfky

    dmfky Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm getting more and more impressed with my r2 , I'm able to play borderlands max out at native res and the lowest fps I have seen was 32. At this rate I'll stop buying games on my ps3 and buy it for pc instead :D
     
  9. aliengirl_x

    aliengirl_x Notebook Consultant

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    Anyone? I'm going to play the skeptic here; I play Civ5 using DX11 and it's been great.
     
  10. glacius1

    glacius1 Notebook Enthusiast

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    What settings do you play Civ5 on? I'm thinking of getting it :)
     
  11. aliengirl_x

    aliengirl_x Notebook Consultant

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    It's addictive! Here are my settings:

    High:
    Leader Scene Quality, Overlay Detail, Shadow Quality, Terrain Detail Level, Fog of War Quality, Terrain Detail Level, Texture Quality

    Medium:
    Terrain Tessellation Level, Terrain Shadow Quality, and
    Water Quality

    1366x768
    Anti-Aliasing 2x MSAA
    'Vsync' and 'High Detail Strategic View' are on

    FPS average fluctuates around 40 FPS, it's very smooth, no lags or anything. I notice when I uncheck the 'High Detail Strategic View' the FPS goes up (stays more around 45+), but since I can't detect any quality degradation when playing, I leave it on.
     
  12. tulron41

    tulron41 Notebook Geek

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    I just picked up Hunted:demon forge. But i can't get it to run smoothly at all. I have a hunch that i did not whitelist it correctly. but there is only one executable i can see in the folder and i whitelisted it. Its a headscratcher cause it is clearly not running right.
     
  13. tulron41

    tulron41 Notebook Geek

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    I still couldnt fix the problem with the whitelisting. but i just made the gt335 the primary graphics card for the laptop and the game ran smooth as butter.
     
  14. CanadianReaper7

    CanadianReaper7 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I searched the thread, but no one has posted framerates for retail Starcraft 2 with the latest patch/driver. I'm wondering the fps on high/ultra in 1v1/2/3/4 if possible. Thanks guys!
     
  15. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    would like to see how red faction armageddon does!
     
  16. B4n6k3

    B4n6k3 Notebook Evangelist

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    guys,

    I always kicked out during playing Portal 2 after 1 hour playing on single player. something wrong in my system ?? does anyone have the same problem ??

    too bad, I really enjoy that game, so addictive... :D
     
  17. kevmanw4301

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    Mine does the same thing!
     
  18. Pommie

    Pommie Notebook Deity

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    ^ Any updates on this one? Seem's weird to get randomly kicked out of a game that was running fine?
     
  19. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    sounds like a patch broke the game or something.
     
  20. kevmanw4301

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    Possibly. Question. Those of you with an R1 and BO, how does it run for you? I set it on low and it stutters around ~30FPS. I am OC'd to 1.6GHz and a nice stable GPU OC, no artifacts. Anyone?
     
  21. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    how can it stutter at 30fps? 30 fps is smooth, a bluray movie runs at 24fps and thats completely smooth..
     
  22. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    anyone tried the DNF demo on their M11x?

    EDIT: finally got the demo so will try!
     
  23. kevmanw4301

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    I mean it jumps around constantly from 18-30 ish and its unplyable. What is everyone else gettig for framerates? I can set MW2 to all extra an 4x Anti and get 35FPS, so this make no sense.
     
  24. HTWingNut

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    Because it's DEMO based on BETA code?
     
  25. kevmanw4301

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    BO? Its the free MP thing. Its the full MP game, online and all.
     
  26. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    YouTube - ‪Duke Nukem Forever Demo on M11x R2‬‏

    The Duke Nukem Forever demo running on my M11x R2 and by the looks of it it's very much playable indeed though i am not convinced of the outlandishness of the game.

    EDIT: I noticed that the audio and video are not in sync.....DAMN YOU MUXER! LOL
     
  27. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    i consider playable 20 fps. i dont expect everything to run perfect. but there is always ways to make a game run better no matter what.
     
  28. abcxyz91

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    I tried running the Duke Nukem Demo at everything on ultra. I guess it's the bad idea.

    Edit: forget to add it to white-list.
     
  29. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    but so far i am happy that the game CAN run but not really impressed so far as to the gameplay, the game's style of humor, etc. but technically i am happy.
     
  30. B4n6k3

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    I just saw the trailers for Battlefield 3, seems like is no hope for running it in my M11xR2..... :(

    seems like my PS3 will doing this job... :(
     
  31. GapItLykAMaori

    GapItLykAMaori Notebook Evangelist

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    jesus... i dnt no why but i cant stand nething near the 20's, even 30 at times is annoying for me. In SP i will tolerate 30fps dips and 40-50 average but in MP, i settle for no less than 60 fps at all times, slower paced mp games like bc2 I can manage on 45-50fps average.
     
  32. Vidaluko

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    I got Dirt from Steam, in the sale (it was$2.50) and even when it has a big letter warning that it doesnot work in windows 7, it runs fine, like any other game:

    YouTube - ‪Dirt 1 (PC) on the Alienware m11x R2‬‏

    It has some optimization problems, but it works, the game runs in high settings around 40fps, but in races with other players (AI players) the frames can drop to around 20-30fps

    And the problem is from the game, since Dirt 2, a much newer and better looking game, runs solid at 40fps with other players or not...

    Still, for $2.50 is a great game, more when the racing games list on the PC are a little bit shorter than the consoles...
     
  33. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    lol you cant even see more then 28fps with the naked eye.
     
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    I don't care what anyone says, at 28 or 30 fps games do not look anywhere near as smooth as at 60, there's a reason people strive to have as high FPS as they can and don't settle for it being at 30 all the time.
     
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    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    people want more and more fps just to say they have it, finishing a game at 30 fps or finishing a game at 60fps will be the same gameplay, same everything. i dont care as long as it doesnt "chop"

    seriously, if someone says a game is unplayable at 30fps then their just spoiled or stubborn.
     
  38. Lunatics

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    Looking at that example, and just personal experience playing games, I see a noticeable difference between 20->30 fps and 30 -> 60 fps. I consider 20 too laggy and unplayable. 30 is manageable if it's singleplayer depending on the game, but even that does not look smooth. 40+ is noticeably smoother than "what the eye can't see".
     
  39. kevmanw4301

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    30 is manageable sometimes, but, take, for example, MW2. I can set it to all the highest settings and get 30~FPS. It looks great, but if I fire my M4, it dosen't look like it fires correctly and skips some shots with the lower frames. If I turn it down slightly, and get 60FPS, it is much better.
     
  40. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    i consider anything below 18-19fps unplayable, but thats just me. if a game is running at 35fps, and the same game is running on a pc next to it, and thats running at 60 fps, i cant tell the difference.

    bluray's run at 24fps, and those look smooth as butter.

    if a game doesnt run at 30fps, and it runs a bit lower, i just deal with it and adjust.
     
  41. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    BDs at 24fps do stutter if there's lots of motion because 24fps is not enough to capture the motion properly. if it's like slow camera pans then it doesn't stutter much.
     
  42. ajslay

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    true, but, the movie is still perfectly enjoyable =p
     
  43. thegh0sts

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    the reason why it's more bearable than games is because your BD player/TV will do a 2:3 (3:2) pulldown on the fly rather than just the BD player just pumping up the raw 24fps to a compatible HDTV. the pulldown converts the 24fps to 30fps and what the pulldown does is that it softens the original judder (when the footage was shot) by adding more judder from the framerate conversion.

    movies are shot at 24fps but then slowed by 0.01% to 23.976fps because that converts better to 29.97fps and adds a few seconds to a 2 hour movie.

    for games it doesn't work like that because all the frames are generated in real-time.
     
  44. mardon

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    I did laugh when there was a push for TV's that did native 24fps when all that is needed is a decent interpolation program working behind the scenes.

    60FPS in FPS's is very nice. 60FPS in RPS's etc is not as important. To be honest the witcher 2 is playing ok a 25/30fps and isnt bothering me too much. Its just the occasional dips to 20fps that get me.

    When I get back from travelling i'm looking forward to playing TW2 on a OC'd 570 and new Sandybridge CPU powered desktop with all the eye candy turned on.
     
  45. glacius1

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    Re: Duke Nukem Forever - tried updating to the latest 275.33 nVidia drivers?

    I'm pretty sure that's all I did between today and yesterday - yesterday I was getting around 30 fps on lowest settings and today I can play it on ultra details (no AA) at 60+ fps.
     
  46. kevmanw4301

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    Its BO. Not duke.
     
  47. ajslay

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    i know its rendered in real time, im just saying 30 fps is perfectly acceptable in any game. hell, if it runs at 25fps its acceptable for me at least. 20fps is ok too but not quite as good.
     
  48. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    interpolation (aka motionflow, motion plus) is not the same as doing a pulldown: interpolation creates new frames from existing frames by calculating the differences between frames and those get injected with the existing frames. the result is that it makes the motion look more realistic like it was shot at 60+fps though i do not like it because it kills the aesthetic of the motion recreated when playing at 24fps.

    a pulldown at least keeps that aesthetic.
     
  49. glacius1

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    My bad :D

    Has anyone tried the leaked deus ex: human revolution on the m11x yet?
     
  50. thegh0sts

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    what the eff?
     
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