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I have an r1 and I play skyrim on high at 30 fps. The Pros are numerous, small, lightweight, easy to travel with yet it packs a punch; there is no game on the market that you wont be able to play with at LEAST medium settings. (More likely high for almost everything) THe biggest con is probobly the glossy screen but if you had am m14x you are already familiar with that *ahem* feature. It's a great little laptop and i love mine to death!

 

Emulation is CPU power hungry, so you may have trouble with emulators such as Dolphin or the DS on the M11x. Older ones should be okay.

 

Thanks for your replies, and yes for emulator I was thinking, NES SNES Genesis ect :q but it runs Dolphin well? : o

 

I will trade you my M11x r2 for the M14x

 

Hi, I recently purchased an m11x r3 with the following specs for $999.99 CAD:
-Intel® Core™ i5 2467M 1.6GHz (2.3GHz w/Turbo Boost, 3MB Cache)
-4GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz
-500GB3 SATA hard drive (7200RPM)

I was thinking about selling it and getting another one with these specs:
-Intel® Core™ i7 2617M 1.5GHz(2.6GHz w/Turbo Boost, 4MB Cache)
-6GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz
-500GB3 SATA hard drive (7200RPM)
This one is for $1099.99

I got an offer of $850 for my alienware. Do you think it's worth upgrading to an i7 and 6GB ram? Will there be a significant improvement in performance? I know I should have just gotten the i7 in the beginning by paying only $100 more. But now I'll be paying $250 more for the upgrade.

 

$250 for .1 Ghz faster? Heck no.

Why don't you just upgrade the RAM in your current one yourself?

 

for 250$ you can put 8Gb RAM and a descend SSD - you will get a huge bump in every day tasks. Even more, for this money you can squeeze the case for your current harddrive to be used as external one.

 

No way its not worth it I have always felt the i7 was overpriced to the tiny bit of performance gainit had over the i5

 

its not tiny, its roughly 25%ish. also 0.1Ghz means nothing these days, 1.2Ghz dual core beats 3-4Ghz Pentium 4 by miles... so yeah.

but unless you play lots of starcraft 2 or some other RTS with A LOT of troops and massive armies, you wont need the I7.

Also, if thats the case, it will improve your every-day use and feel of the m11x if you spend the 250$ on a decent SSD(200mb/s read/write) plus 8gb ram rather than I7.

EDIT:
just for credibility, numbers from cpubenchmark.com

Intel Core i5-2537M @ 1.40GHz 2445 <- thats me, does heat more than the current one... not too much.
Intel Core i5-2467M @ 1.60GHz 2373 <- thats you, see Ghz don't mean crap these days.
Intel Core i7-2617M @ 1.50GHz 2929 <- obviously, the upgrade option.

so yeah, the performance bump isn't really worth it, 23.43% benchmark wise, so like 20% more silly troops running around. (troop number is directly out of anus, do not quote me on it)

 

Okay thanks guys. I guess I'll just grab an ssd and extra ram

 

hello i am about to buy this alienware. is it worth the price? thanks



Alienware M11x R3
Date & Time: 1/25/2012 3:14:11 AM
SYSTEM COMPONENTS
Alienware M11x R3 Qty 1
Alienware M11x R3 Laptop Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium Unit Price $899.00
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Processor: Intel Core i5-2467M 1.6GHz (2.3GHz w/Turbo Boost, 3MB Cache) 1VWTG
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 2J4FR
90W AC Adapter 364RF
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Information 55DD5
8 Cell Primary Battery 889C2
Processor Label 88PVP
Dell Support Center 64 Bit 2.0 99RFP
Documentation C112J
Command Center DMMNJ
Information DXH67
Intel 6250 Wireless-N (2x2) Half Mini-Card F4GPN
Wave Systems Software GV0CP
11.6 inch High Definition WLED Display (1366x768) with Integrated 1.3M Pixel Webcam H3X1D
750 GB SATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) HD4KK
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TOTAL: $719.20

 

I apologise for accidentally having tagged this Q onto an old thread earlier, and I apologise again for starting a new one now, but I've ordered this supposed R3 and need to know if I should cancel it - it looks like a mish-mash when I investigate the specs:

Can this configuration be an R3?


· Intel® Core™ i7-640UM Processor (4M Cache, 1.2GHz turbo to 2.26Ghz)***

· 500GB 7200 RPM hard Drive

· 4098MB 1333MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM

· Internal High-Definition 5.1 Surround Sound Audio

· Intel Wireless-N 1000 Card

· Display 11.6in Wide HD 1366x768 (720p) LCD

· Integrated Laptop Webcam

. Dell Bluetooth 365 Module

· 1GB GDDR3 NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 545M

· 8 Cell, Lithium Ion Primary Battery

· IEEE 1394a (4-pin) port

· Integrated Ethernet RJ-45 (100 Mbps)

· 3 Hi-speed USB 3.0 ports

· DP / HDMI - Video Output

· Audio In / Microphone Jack (retaskable for 5.1 audio)


*** This is a "first generation" i7:
SLBMM 640UM 1.20GHz 2.26GHz -- 2 cores -- HT Yes -- Video clock 166 MHz -- L3 cache 4 MB -- Tech 32 nm - -TDP(W) 18 -- Max temp 105 -- Socket BGA1288

Intel say that the 640UM runs DDR3-800, not 1333

nVidia list the GT 545 with 1.5gb RAM, not 1.0gb, but I may not have found alternatives which do exist.


I am very confused and in a panic. Some of you already know I want this for video editing, not games.

I cannot seem to ascertain what's different in the BASE of the R2 and R3, are the higher-end CPUs that come with the R3 able to be installed in an R2, for example? If the 640UM turns out to be too slow, could I upgrade it?

 

That's not an r3 that's an r2 and it has a 335m not a 545, it's from the Dell outlet isn't it? The y have r3s tagged as having 550ms too. It's a typo or something but that is definitely and r2.

 

Thanks, Deadboy - I've already added your GPU o/c guide to my Faves

Yes, it's an outlet. 3-year warranty turned my head


CANCELLED! Thanks also to those who responded on the other thread x

 

I was talking to a Dell salesperson today and he mentioned an interesting thing. It could be just normal sales talk.

He said I should buy the M11x R3 I have chosen now because "few of the parts are going end of life very soon .. And moreover the price will not be the same once the part changes."

Does this mean anything? Are they just running out of stock or are they expecting updated options soon?

 

Most likely they will jump on ivy when it hits the streets and the 640m as it looks so good. But what he said was also right the prices will go through the roof so for similiar performance to what you can get from the old hardware you will pay through the tooth for in the new.

My R3 is running Skyrim all high 8x aa and 8x af at max res at 30fps. What more do I need?

 

COLOUR CHOICE Alienware M11x Nebula Red
PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ i7 2637M (1.7GHz ,2.8GHz w/Turbo Boost, 4MB Cache)
OPERATING SYSTEM English Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium (64 BIT)
GRAPHICS CARD 2GB DDR3 NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 540M
MEMORY 4096MB 1333MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [2x2048]
HARD DRIVE 750GB (7,200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive
WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY Intel® 1000 Wireless Card - European
BLUETOOTH Dell Wireless 375 Bluetooth Module - European
OFFICE SOFTWARE English Microsoft® Office Home and Student 2010 ( Word, Excel, Powerpoint, One Note)
SECURITY SOFTWARE No Antivirus Software
SERVICES AND SUPPORT 1 year Next Business Day hardware Support included with your PC

PRICE £1,188.60

 

That's exactly the model I bought two weeks ago and I'm loving it. Some peopel will say to save some money and get the i5 over the i7 since there isn't that much of a difference and your not getting the full i7 either as it is under volted.

These cores run on 17 watts while a regular core will run on 35 or 45 watts.

Unless you actually need the extra processing power...the i5 would be the better buy. I got the i7 cause I need it and the price difference isn't as great in the USA compared to rest of the world.

 

Done getting this as a birthday present

 

Nice work iCaramelBird. Hope you enjoy it!

 

Yeah thanks homank76 it's now

£933.60

 

Your welcome.

 

Just ordered mine! I got the i5-4gig ram-killer n wireless everything else basic, for 899 and got the 3 year warrenty for 150 so 1050 total.. u guys think thats a good deal?

 

How come your prices are so high?

The I5-4gig RAM-750gb HDD + killer I got from Alienware was only £698.99 and I didnt even use a voucher.

Have dell put their prices up? Nearly £1200 for the I7 is huge! That is $2000 shortly before a new revision is released,...

If you have enough money to get the I7 + an SSD fine but if you are replacing the SSD with the I7 in the price that is madness and is going to slow you down rather than speed you up for a lot more money.

 

wait if anyone saw my alienware tech specs will it be able to run games like Skryim Minecraft Portal Battlefield all those good games smoothly?

I'm so confused should I get i7 because I heard 2 8 ghz is fast or should I use i5 but I heard i5 is slow

 

Who told you this a Dell Sales Agent? You will only see 2.8ghz when 1 core is active it will clock down if 2 are active.

The I5 is not slow it is extremely fast for a netbook and you will see no difference at all between the I5 and i7 if you intend to game and surf the only reason you would need more speed is if you intend to use it for video editing or the like.

For £300 more it is total joke and Dell are laughing charging that much get the I5 and get yourself an SSD the thing that is going to slow you down is the HDD not the processor.

I can run Skyrim at native res with all settings at high with AA + AF and a smooth 35fps. Battlefield 3 runs but you will need to stick to mostly medium settings the other game you mentioned wont have any problems at all.

 

Nevermind it's too late I'm not getting an Alienware anymore I'm getting a horrible windows xp laptop for my birthday -_- Oh well thanks for all your help

 

Why?

Windows xp is a bit too old now stick with DirectX 11.

 

Well, I got my R3 today. No bluetooth (figured) . Only problem I see is one stuck pixel that is hardly noticeable. I'll be getting an Intel 6320 for bluetooth rather than dealing with the Dell module. I can't complain for under $900 shipped.

 

A stuck pixel? Oh man that cannot do, I tried to squeeze one of them out of my new clevo when it arrived and even on that huge screen I couldn't stand it after a few weeks it is always catching your eye when you move in a game because it does not change.

Get onto Dell and get a new screen sent out.

 

I'll try running a pixel fixer app later. At least it's blue and not red or green.

 

Worse hours of my life running those programs and squeezing away at the panel, luckily my RMA was fast and they were out of stock of the stock ones and I got a high gamut anti glare replacement

 

Speaking of screens on the M11x, are they still using the same ones?
My buddies M11x screen quality is not that great, poor contrast and subpar color representation.

 

They are certainly not great but far from being the worse compared to other netbook screens they do the job well. The brightness is more than enough but the black and whites could be better. The main problem is the glare but when you get past that you accept it for an 11 inch 1366x768 display which works well.

 

Going to purchase this model off of the Dell UK website.
Would these specs be okay to play games like Battlefield 3, Sims 3, Star Wars the old republic at smooth frame rate at at least Low/Medium settings or more?

Alienware M11x Stealth Black
Intel® Core™ i5 2467M (1.6GHz ,3MB Cache)
1GB DDR3 NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 540M edit
6144MB 1333MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM

Should I upgrade to the i7 processor? And would it make that much of a difference?

Also one little question to owners of the laptop, I'm currently using an 18 inch monitor, is downsizing to an 11 inch screen going to be difficult or is the screen size decent and I wont have to squint? Thanks

 

They say the i7 is not worth it unless it's a REALLY cheap upgrade. I can't personally vouch for those games but everybody who plays them seems satisfied.

As for the screen, I was surprised at how quick I adjusted from the 15" down to the 11.6. I only miss the extra screen when I do certain things at work, for which I use my 21" Cinema Display.

 

You will play all of those games comfortably depending on the settings you can play most at high settings for 25-35fps 35-45 if you can settle for medium. Skyrim run amazingly well Battlefield does require some lower settings but Star Wars and Sims 3 you will easily max out. The lower resolution means that you can run games at mucher higher settings than most would think and if you overclock as easy as mine does your going to see great results.

Dont bother with the I7 they are both Dual cores with 4 threads and you dont need more than 2.3ghz you will see 0 difference, put the money towards a good SATA III SSD. The ULV gets bad reviews but for general use and responsiveness I see minimal difference compared to my 2760QM it is only when I start pushing it that the quad shows its real worth but for a 17watt processor it performs superb.

 

Hello there, first I want to introduce myself and say hi to everyone. Im new here and found this section while searching for reviews and information on the alienware brand.

Ok please go easy on me as I dont fully understand all the technical jargon im afraid. I love games and am addicted but when it comes to the innards of the machine I fail like a noob lol. This could be a great place for me to start learning.

Ok my dilemma is I have researched over and over again for information on the models of the mx11 and want to buy one. I know this thread has been done before but I want (if its ok) people to hear my individual which i hope will help my decision.

I have seen the R1 going for £300 in london a lot with the R2 going for about 450-500. But now there is the R3 and with watching youtube found that even the older versions can run games today. Im not going to lie. Im poor, and this is a huge investement for me (as is for many people) but it gives me some hope and happinness to game when times are tough and need to forget things.

Trouble is I have about 700 for 1. which I know isnt a lot but need some help. Truthfully I need it to be fairly future proof. I cant afford another so soon. What does others have on here? And what should I look at to make it future proof-ish? what about a 4th revision from dell soon? I know the graphics card is needed and the turboboost so would have to be minimum i5. But i see all these numbers after a graphics card and dont know what they mean. And is an i5 with 1.6 going to better than an i7 with 1.5?

I even have seen an m11x r1 playing mass effect 3 online, and they did something to it pinmod i think? i have even seen r2 playing crysis and crysis 2 so it makes me think they are pretty good for games like diablo 3 and guild wars 2.

So many questions, i promise I have been through pages of information on here too. This is my final plea to write a thread that I understand some of you would be sick of to see.

Thank you in advanced.

 

Ideally the best model bang for buck is:

I5 2467M (the I7 in the UK is far too expensive and the difference in performance is minimal)
2GB RAM (upgrade to 4GB or 8GB yourself as Dell charge silly prices for RAM)
500GB HDD (Again upgrade yourself if you want a larger HDD or an SSD)
540M GT 1GB (the 2GB that comes with the I7 will do nothing mine has never used more than 500mb of VRAM)
Stock wireless + BT (Killer wireless only if you need it)

If you are short on money you have a few choices, you could look on the Dell Outlet for a model similiar and pick it up second hand or out of the box otherwise the above model goes for around £699 in the UK at the moment, i was lucky and got the March deal which included the killer wireless and a larger HDD and more RAM for £699 so call them up and tell them you are short on cash and what you looking for and get them to offer you a deal.

The R2 would be fine with the I7 and 335M GT but it is old tech and the 335M is falling into the class 3 gaming regions so you cannot really consider it as future proof anymore with the more demanding games on the way out. The 540M GT is the way to go at the moment.

 

You have come to the right place. THere is tons of info here on whats what.

I personally have a few r1s, they are great little machines and take just about anything I can toss at them.

My best suggestion is to get the cpu and gpu you want, then cheap out on the rest of the stuff. You can buy better aftermarket hard drives and ram.

The cpu and gpu are soldered to the motherboard, so they are not really replacable.

The r1 has the best battery life, I get just over 10 hours on mine (modded of course)
The r2 gets the worse battery life of the 3, has a outdated gpu, but has a good cpu.
The r3 has a better cpu and gpu.

Now, as for future models, dont be a future chaser. If your always waiting for the next best thing, you will never have anything.

I have gotten 2 years out of my r1s and both still look and work like new. Sure I cant play the newest games as high settings, but I can still play some of them.

The games you want to play now will play a big role in the computer you choose, so pick a few titles and check out youtube. Search "XXXXX m11x" XXXXX being the title of the game. Usually the person who posts the video will post their specs along with frame rates they are getting. Then in the comments under there you will see alot of people saying we wasted our money on a alienware... we call them "jealous"

 

I see I actually found a deal where I can get that processor, 4gb ram, 1GB DDR3 NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 540M, 750GB (7,200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive for £729 brand new. Is it ok? they offer an i7 version but the pruce is about 200 more? Am i missing out on a lot?

will there be a big difference between the 1gb and 2gb graphics card?

thank you so much for a quick reply!

thanks ejohnson to for the info...have dell fixed the hinge problem? I cant afford to pay out for a fix to be done if it breaks on me!

Yeh games I want to play are very new which makes me worry. I want to play diablo 3 when its out, mass effect 3, borderlands 2 and guild wars 2. there may be some fps in there but im not sure truthfully. I hope this helps.

 

Well I have diabo3 beta on my r1, it plays, but it drops frames, but my r1 is 2 year old now.

Dell has fixed the hinge problem on the r3, if you got a r1 or r2 you may still have a issue with the hinges, but dell will replace it once for free outside of warranty.

 

Hi Moose and welcome!

I'm sure if you poke around here a little more you'll get some great and very complete info on all things M11X. I have received some great info and help at this forum.

I totally know what you're asking in wanting to be as future proof as possible with your purchase. I was in a similar situation when I bought my R2 some time ago (bought new from Dell). It something to seriously consider when buying a used or older model, but kinda hard to determine with a current model. And I can't speak to what a R4 might spec out to or when rumors say it will be announced. I think it would be safe to guess it would include the new "Ivey Bridge" chips from Intel and Nvidia's newer GT 6xx Graphics. My advice would be to skip the R1 at this point, even a new one at a very good price. You will miss far too much going forward and the "pin modding" you mentioned if definitely NOT for newbies.

One thing to keep in mind if youre considering getting an R1 or R2 is that while they may be capable of playing current or future graphics intensive games, you will most likely have to sacrifice visual quality in order for it to do so- I.e. running a game and medium or low visual quality settings. In my opinion, whether this spoils the fun really depends on the game. For example, I play Skyrim at med-high settings and get decent performance depending on the map (city, outdoor, dungeon, etc.), but have tried turning the setting down even further to get higher frame rates for smoother play and I felt it really took the wind out of the experience by having all those amazing environments muddied by lower graphics. But with modern warfare 3 I didn't really mind the poorer visuals in exchange for the higher performance (I actually didn't have to turn things down that much, but wanted quicker reactions in multip). I hope this makes sense. Bottom line is, just be prepared to do some tweaking with either visual settings, overclocking or even modded drivers and other utilites with some of the higher end games.

Good luck with your purchase!

 

That is a good deal and the same as what I got for £699.99 with a killer card so you are only paying £30 more call them up and say you only have £700 and see if they will accept it as they need sales at the moment as they are nearing the end of this revision.

The I7 will makes minimal difference is any and the 2gb Graphics card will make no difference whatsoever the 540M GT cannot use more than 1GB as mentioned I ran a furmark test flat out at 1080p and it only used 69% of the memory/VRAM.

Do not consider the R1 or R2 at this point as you are just going backwards it may be cheaper but you will be upgrading sooner if you are intending to play the latest games at anything more than low-medium settings.

 

I forgot to mention the different in CPUs in my earlier reply....

I got the core i7, mainly because at the time it was a free upgrade. Essentially it has a larger level 3 cache- 4mb compared to 3mb on the i5. This means nothing for games and mostly applies to things like video, photo or audio editing from what I've read. Some i7 might also have a higher turbo boost than an i5 with the same base speed.

If that i7 is a £200 upgrade, then I wouldn't get it unless you will be using your M11 for heavy media creation or just want the fastest.

The bigger memory on a GPU can mean it will store a greater amount of game related stuff like textures which, depending on the game, can mean a big boost in performance. But I've also read that some games will never come close to needing a memory buffer as large as 2 or 3 gb so anything above 1-1.5 gb is a waste of money. I think the m14 has a 3gb option that everyone on that forum was saying was a waste of money. But It seems that future games could take advantage of GPUs with bigger buffers, so I'd probably get the 2gb to help with some future proofing.

 

The extra gig of vram is useless, just a suggestion but if you're looking at a gaming laptop why not look beyond alienware. They make nicer laptops but spec wise there are laptops with much nicer specs for around the same price

Sent from my DROID RAZR

 

this is the info and help i needed im so grateful for the help. When i trird talking to dell they just kept on trying to me upgrade.

Thanks taz for the information and I am prepared that some loss somewhere has to happen. Im just in love with the fact this laptop is so small but packs a huge punch. And I know people moan about for the same price I could get a desktop but there is something I really like about the mx11. I think a laptop is one of our most personal posessions and this I could really make mine.

Im glad its a good deal yiddo. I will give them a call tomorrow and see what I can wangle out of them. I dont mind pushing hard if it means me surviving a bit better : P

what about newer games will they use the 2gb inside the graphics card? why have it if its useless? Maybe dell is aiming for people like me (who have no clue) who thinks its bigger so I should buy it lol. There is a significant price increase.

again many thanks peeps. I will avoid the R1 and at least narrowed it down to either R2 (if extremely good offer) and the R3. Will update you tomorrow!

I see Azn thanks for the suggestion I know ASUS do some crazy models but also crazily expensive. plus they are not small! which is what im looking into.

Just to burn myself lol I actually work with photoshop and 3d max. but i dont expect much in the way of 3d max to be honest. I can work in the studio for that.

If i can push for a free i7 i will : P never know until you try hehe

 

I noticed you wanted small but if you just want a cheap laptop at a good price with good processing power and a good gpu look at the Acer aspire 5755g-6823 there might even be an updated version

Sent from my DROID RAZR

 

Didn't bother reading much of this... if you are poor there are better bangs-for-the-buck avail. Who says you have to run the newest and latest game or computer for escape time?

I "get away" via BF2, NFS, Ser Sam, or some other random game I already have. Save your money and use it wisely and whatever you do, get a system WITH A WARRANTY. You cannot afford to have an uncovered failure. Ditto for mods... leave the system alone unless you can afford to dump it in the trash.

 

Hey, I just purchased my M11X a few weeks ago... I'm an animation student wanting somethins small to carry around to the city and out and about.
and this is fine, I had a HP DV6 prior as my "lug around" lappy, but a 15.6" screen is a pain to carry... Sometimes you just wanna carry a small satchel bag or the likes instead of a massive backpack.

Anyway, I purchased one on the same track as you, from thinking of a second hand and upgrading components and ending up with a new one.
I put 8GB ram in myself and will upgrade to my own SSD soon.

Yes, you can get more bang for your buck with other brands, you can get a proper quad-core i7, 16GB ram, 256GB SSD, 15.6" lappy for the same price most of the time, (I paid $1,400 in Australia for mine), but again, it came down to size.
It has a bit of grunt and is a small lappy with a full Win7 64-bit OS!

It runs Photoshop fine, and Maya 2012... I use After Effects mainlt, and despite just having to update the graphics drivers, it handles it all fine!
You still get that brush-lag in Photoshop with large brushes, and render times in Maya aren't all that bad. I didn't get this for real heavy 3D, but just simple modelling and viewing files, no full blown Mental Ray rendering...

I like the sturdy build quality of AW too, a bit bulky, yes, but sturdy. I looked at a lot of lappy's in retail shops (they stock AW too, but way too expensive at retail shops) anyway, I compared it to aimilar sized lappy's and to me the build quality is much sturdier, call me old fashioned, but I'm getting sick of seeing computers getting insanely thin, they just seem "flimsy", not sure if that's good choice of word as it may offend, but to me something with a bit of bulk will outlast something thin...

A good comparison, Nokia 3310 Vs iPhone... The 3310 was indestructable, but how many iphones do you see dead??? Lol, maybe not the best comparison, but you get my point... Maybe...

Plus, I find myself playing more games now than I used to.

All-in-all, you won't regret it!

Also, do haggle on the phone, I managed to save myself $80...

Goodluck, man.