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    *OFFICIAL* M11x Benchmark Thread

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by BatBoy, Feb 15, 2010.

  1. jsgiv

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    Agreed - and I didn't say it didn't/wasn't .. :)

    I simply stated that EA is known for coding a game - and *then* porting it cross-platform via a common engine/emulation. While this is good for the company from an ongoing development perspective - the game is typically not optimized for the platform it's being played on. This has grown more common in the past several years. You see this a lot more with consoles especially, take all the cheap ports of PS2 titles to the Wii, for example. The Wii is hands down a more powerful platform than the PS2 - yet many of the games ported from PS2 are lackluster and run poorly. Why? Poor programming / deadlines - rushing a product to market, and not coding to the specific platform. I get it though - companies have to make money, and the best way to accomplish this is to follow this type of mass-produced game engine(s) programming.

    I guess my point is: Can BFBC2 run on M11x - yes - I'm fairly certain it can be tweaked to run smoothly, albeit at a medium setting. Can the developers, if given the time, go back and re-factor some of the code to take the load off of the CPU and make it run smoother at a higher detail? Again - Yes - most definitely - you can always go back and re-factor code ... problem is - ROI isn't there.. :)
     
  2. aznguyen316

    aznguyen316 Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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    True I may just bump and it down and see how it plays/runs.

    *edit*

    okay I ran on all lows and not much improvement.. only 1.5FPS gain seen.. updated my original BFBC2 benchmark.

    just benched on high graphcal details and high textures.. only avg of 1FPS drop.. lol

    edited my post some more with 4 quick runs over the same area, testing out effects, details, and textures each separately.
     
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    ^ Almost exactly what happens when I drop Flashpoint to low.
     
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    So it's pretty much a waste of time to turn games to low settings? Just roll with medium / high?
     
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    @aznguyen316

    Have you added the "+fullproc" command to the startup line/shortcut ?

    Dual core owners in my clan reported good gains with that setting forced in the startup.

    /just still thinking of ways to improve BC2 ...lol
     
  6. Eggs Scrambled

    Eggs Scrambled Notebook Evangelist

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    i actually have been playing it at lowest possible settings, 720p, and I have to take back anything bad I said about it. It's EXTREMELY playable at those settings, I think seeing the fraps counter in the corner was messing with my head.

    There's really nothing wrong with it now that I've had a little time with it.
     
  7. Eggs Scrambled

    Eggs Scrambled Notebook Evangelist

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    EXTREMELY long benchmarks just done, they actually include loading screens unfortunately which alters the min/max time as you can see! anyways, here's what I got:

    Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
    91841, 4583360, 0, 193, 20.038

    Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
    10177, 533464, 0, 181, 19.077

    Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
    12076, 561053, 0, 173, 21.524

    I should mention that this average is definitely higher when the loading screens are taken out of the picture. If I had excel working I'd do a proper comparison after removing the outliers that are obviously loading screens. Regardless, this maintains above 20fps even with the outliers which can relatively show how it manages at least a solid 20fps which doesnt sound like much but I was personally able to get more than 4000 points in several games during this benchmark. AND I have the su4100 and 2gb ram so take that.
     
  8. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Where do I find the Crysis Benchmarking tool? I'm not seeing it in the game, nor in the folders. Anyone wanna clue me in on how to run it?

    Same thing goes for S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Cant seem to locate the bench tool.
     
  9. aznguyen316

    aznguyen316 Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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    @nsxr I have high textures and low else now and it played well. Avg fps is similar but some minimum fps will be lower with higher settings, so if you don't want to see those dips as often, then don't go all out. meds/low/ and for textures, I feel, can be high.
    @thewusman yes I've had that in my steam shortcut launch properties

    @dr650 - the crysis benchmark tool is seperate download, but you'll also need the crysis demo/full game downloaded and installed as well. The benchmark tool itself is only like 500kb I think? The demo is maybe 1.5GB

    the stalker call of pripyat one is a separate download too available via google even from the official stalker site I believe. Another 1.x GB download to run. Neither are really in game.
     
  10. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Ok, I have the games, I just wasn't sure where they are. I have a file that says crysis benchmark, but when I run it I don't get the screen that looks like yours. I'll download them tonight. Any chance you have a link to them?
     
  11. aznguyen316

    aznguyen316 Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    lol, man didnt even think about that. Thanks again!
     
  13. tacopicante123

    tacopicante123 Notebook Consultant

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    Hey guys maybe it would be helpful to note what DRIVERS you guys are using to get those high scores also... I think that has alot to do with FPS etc... can everyone list their drivers so we can follow suit and maybe settings used to get the 7000 scores?
     
  14. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Stock drivers, settings can be found in my sig or the first page. It's why I include CPU-z, GPU-z screen shots. All my clocks can be found there. All top scores are linked on Page 1 where Im keeping track of them. Each score is linked to a screen shot.
     
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    @DR650SE - Ok thanks for that info, I was trying to decide whether to go with those stock ones or the DOX ones found in aznguyen's signature that is why I asked. Also, I cannot see any of the screens here at work because they are blocked
     
  16. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    ahh, yea I might try the DOX drivers for benching on Friday, probably not any time before that. But I just have the drivers that came with the M11X.

    My 7105 3DMark06 score was done with the following GPU clocks
    GPU Clock: 633 MHz
    Memory: 912 MHz
    Shader: 1450 MHz
     
  17. aznguyen316

    aznguyen316 Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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    you can see driver version in gpuz, like 650 mentioned seeing clocks etc above. I think it's required to screenshot the gpuz and cpuz with your 3dmark06 scores.
     
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    Ok I am going to wait for your benches DR650SE so that I can compare stock vs DOX drivers. I want to get the most FPS out of Battlefield Bad Company 2 as possible to make the gameplay smooth. Thanks
     
  19. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    aznguy covered this I believe, might have been in the gaming thread in the side topics, but the final determination was that OCing the GPU made little differance.
     
  20. Aisuhime

    Aisuhime Notebook Geek

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    I got my system exactly two weeks ago,and when it was/ completely fresh my score in 3DMark was 6358.

    Just did it today and I got 4173 3DMarks...Is that normal? XD
     
  21. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Check your power settings. Go into Alien FX and make sure your GPU is at max. Then restart and rerun the test. Ensure that physics is off in the Nvidia control panel.
     
  22. teflonsheep

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    @DR650SE:

    Just curious, do you keep your GPU overclocked? And if so, what settings do you use on a day to day basis?
     
  23. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    I havn't really played any games except Need For Speed Shift, and that I played with no overclock. I probably won't keep it overclocked on a day to day basis. As long as you keep an eye on temps, you can probably go up to a GPU clock of 550 MHz, Memory maybe 840 MHz, and Shader 1250 MHz. That would probably be stable. But I would definately keep an eye on temps. As for me I probably won't play games with GPU overclock
     
  24. RAQemUP

    RAQemUP Notebook Evangelist

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    I leave my SU7300 on overclock 100% of the time. When on Intel IGP, I am getitng roughly 6 hours of battery life.
     
  25. aznguyen316

    aznguyen316 Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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    @aisuhime no it's not normal. I had this issue before but it what due to overclocking issues which some reason made it downclock to hitting the 4,000's.
     
  26. Sgt.McRuff

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    I was gaming it last night ep2 & portal...
    Found my max stable gaming overclock was 570core 1435 shader and 890 mem

    Max recorded gpu temp was 55c and average was 53c-54c with hwmonitor room temp was 69-70f.

    Benchmark stable clocks 581c 1445s 903mem
     
  27. Aisuhime

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    Any suggestions on what I should do about it? :(
     
  28. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Ok, so I finally got to using an external monitor so I can run 3DMark Vantage at 1280x1024 Overclocked CPU/GPU. Below are the results.

    Not bad at all considering it's not the M11X native resolution. I ran one test with no CPU or GPU overclock, and another with both overclocked to show the differance.

    Not Overclocked 1280x1024
    Overall Score: P2525
    GPU: 2566
    CPU: 2411

    [​IMG]


    Overclocked - 1280x1024
    Overall Score: P3278
    GPU: 3301
    CPU: 3211

    [​IMG]



    OK Now for my Street Fighter Overclocked Run
    9763 Pts.
    74.07 FPS
    Grade: A
    [​IMG]


    Here is World in Conflict runs with the World In Conflict Benchmarking tool. I ran them at Very Low, Medium and Very High settings. Both at stock clocks, and then a heavy GPU overclock. The first pic is the settings. I adjusted the settings with the basic settings option. All were run at 1280x720 resolution. As you can see from studing the graph, the overclocks do not help much in this benchmark tool. The Key is to keep your laptop as cool as possible. If you study closely, you'll see that the overclocks help in some areas of the benchmark assesment, while hinder in others. All runs were done with the CPU @ 1.733GHz.
    [​IMG]


    Very Low Settings,Stock GPU Clocks
    AVG: 78 FPS
    [​IMG]


    Very Low settings, Overclocked GPU/CPU
    AVG: 83 FPS
    [​IMG]


    Medium Settings,Stock GPU Clocks
    AVG: 32 FPS
    [​IMG]


    Medium Settings, Overclocked GPU/CPU
    AVG: 32 FPS
    [​IMG]


    Very High settings, Stock GPU Clocks
    AVG: 15 FPS
    [​IMG]


    Very High settings, Overclocked GPU/CPU
    AVG: 18 FPS
    [​IMG]
     
  29. got2bel82day

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    i always get like 64 ° gpu temp :confused:
     
  30. apt2l

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    Does overclocking the CPU 100% of time reduces its life?
     
  31. Fuzzyhead

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    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    The CPU will last longer then the life of the laptop if you don't let the temp get too high, which it shouldn't


    @Fuzzyhead, what is the resolution on that run, it looks like 1260x753. At the moment I have the top 5 set at 1280x1024. Can you try a run at those clocks at that resolution? You'll need an external monitor. How were you able to get a P score at that resolution?
     
  33. noin4mation

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    hey guys. how long does boot up time take when it's 1.3 vs 1.7? How significant is the different of speed for a harddrive spinning 7200RPM vs SSD?
     
  34. Ahmed_Al-Qahtani

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    By the skin of your teeth ;) Good job, nice run. Thanks for including all the details. Page one updated.
     
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    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Nice job, how high can you go before you start locking up due to instability?
     
  38. Ahmed_Al-Qahtani

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    I tried 600/900/15XX and then it locks up, so im just gradaully going up. is there a way to stop it from locking up? I've got a fan under it.

    what causes it to lock up?
     
  39. RAQemUP

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    It locks up due to it not being able to handle the overclock.

    Everyone's chip is not built equally. Some people overclock higher then others.

    You should only overclock in smallish increments and then run a game. Keep doing that till you find your maximum OC for stability.
     
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    I tried out FFXI a bit just for kicks.

    With the Intel GMA card, everything on high (MIP off, background res 1024x1024, bump mapping, textures uncompressed) with overlay res at 800x600 and windowed, low-action areas I was getting 15 FPS and high-lag areas 5-9 FPS.

    Switching over to the 335m, I've been getting a solid 29.4 FPS (seems to be the highest for the game) in low to medium lag zones (Al Zahbi no Beseiged, mog house, Upper Jeuno). At the Whitegate Auction House I was getting 10-15 FPS but those of you who play FFXI should know that to be normal no matter what setup. ;) My settings for the 335m were background res 1600x1200 (registry edit), overlay res 800x600, windowed, texture compression low, MIP mapping 5 (best way to cut down on resources while keeping quality), everything else default.

    I haven't tested full screen because I don't play it that way but if anyone really wants to know some serious benchmarking, PM me with your request.
     
  42. apt2l

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    I got my M11x yesterday. So I might be late to the benchmarking party :)
    This is the first time I am giving a shot at benchmarking so please excuse me if I missed something. The benchmarks are done at the resolution 1280x768. I couldnt use PCMark Vantage. It kept giving me an error that the resolution is not supported.

    PCMark with stock GPU & stock CPU

    Temps right after PCMark at stock settings was run

    3DMark06 with stock GPU & stock CPU

    Temps right after 3DMark06 at stock settings was run

    PCMark Vantage with stock GPU and OC CPU

    Temps right after PCMark with stock GPU and OC CPU was run

    3DMark06 with stock GPU & OC CPU

    Temps right after 3DMark06 with stock GPU and OC CPU was run

    HD Tune Pro

    I am not sure if I recorded the temps right. Are they too low or did I just not record them right?
     
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    @DR650SE:

    I hooked it up with a 22 inch screen and ran on performance preset with the resolution of 1280 x 1024.
    I can only bench with da crapy trial version so no other resolutions or specific fps-values for each test are available.
     
  44. Ahmed_Al-Qahtani

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    How about we see, GPU and CPU overclocking :D ?
     
  45. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    apt, ensure that your running hwmonitor while running the tests. Otherwise it just records the temps when you open it. To get accurate min/max temps, open it,then run your tests.
     
  46. apt2l

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    @DR650SE - It was running all the time and thats what it recorded.
     
  47. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Then yea, your good, thats doing it right.

    @Ahmed You going to catch me? Your so close to the #2 spot! Getting addicted yet?

    @FuzzyHead Gotcha, thanks
     
  48. Ahmed_Al-Qahtani

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    LOOL, hopefully i will get there but my laptop is failing on higher overclocks. I'll probably stop after getting to number 2. Any advice on how to get it higher?
     
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    stick it in your freezer!
     
  50. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Keep it as cool, shut down background apps. Maybe try differant drivers. I havn't switched drivers yet, but I may try the dox drivers at some point. I also updated your scores. And just purchased a registration for PCMark Vantage. Look for me at the top of the board tommorrow lol.
     
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