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    R2 335m nvidia bios flashing to increase voltage

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by tassadar898, Apr 6, 2011.

  1. asdad123

    asdad123 Notebook Evangelist

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    Im pretty sure stock is .9 and modded is .95

    My temps hardly went up. 3-4 degrees at most. The highest temp I got with the modded bios was 71C
     
  2. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    before the flash we were at .9v after were at 0.95v, and its the same way of flashing a regular bios, infact, it is a regular bios, just hacked =D
     
  3. whitrzac

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    WOOT, 7k with non pinmoded R1...

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  4. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    nice! ...=P
     
  5. anthonykit

    anthonykit Notebook Consultant

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    Can anyone explain what this really translates to insofar as gaming performance with, Crysis, for example.

    For someone already OC'ed using throttlestop and playing Crysis and getting x fps at y game settings.

    What does performing this voltage increase do for Crysis fps and settings.

    Does it help 10%, 40% ?

    Just trying to figure out what this voltage increase translates to.
     
  6. some guy

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    no one can really awnser that for you cuz everyones card will OC different.
     
  7. anthonykit

    anthonykit Notebook Consultant

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    Certainly, hopefully, something can be given so anyone that owns, love, or considering buying the M11x can "put there arms around" the benefits.

    Sometimes real smart guys can forget how to explain practical stuff.
     
  8. some guy

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    ok, put it this way. my Gfx OC is on the stock voltage, yet is still higher than some with the new modded Bios.

    so there is no telling what % more FPS you will get in said game untill you know about what clocks you will be able to reach. even then each system will vary due to how different people have thier OS setup, RAM and a few other varibles.

    yes there is probably a avg. OC that people will get, but then again you could have a total dud and the Bios mod will not do much for that. its really the luck of the Draw with OCing...

    what you can do is take say the avg. non modded R1/R2 3Dmark score and compair it to modded ones. off the top of my head id say thats 15-30% more preformance(in 3Dmark) but thats a REAL rough estimate
     
  9. anthonykit

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    And the bottom line is ?

    Can you tell us what your gaming experience has been before and after ? Isnt that what matters.

    It doesnt have to be Crysis.

    If you answer by saying "Wow man my temp stayed reasonable, my bechmarks went thru the roof, my OC is as high as anyone here, oh but in my favorite game hasnt shown any difference in fps or I am still stuck at the same settings", then I dont think anyone would care about raising voltage.

    You see some guy, it really all comes down to you telling us what the practical benefits are for you, not what others may have, etc.

    How have you personally seen results improve or stay the same ?
     
  10. tassadar898

    tassadar898 Notebook Evangelist

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    before and after my modded bios i went from under average fps below 24 to an average fps above 24 (about 26ish) on very high settings in crysis 2. never expect overclockers to be rational or logical in their approach to achieve the maximum OC.
     
  11. some guy

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    the bottom line is that your PC will be faster... how fast depends on YOUR OC on YOUR PC no one can tell you what this will be. each PC is different.

    i cant tell you a before and after because the Bios mod because i haven't done it yet.

    also, are you talking about a R1 or R2? the results will also vary as the systems have different CPUs and the mods for OCing are different as well.

    if your looking for MY best case senerio. i can tell you with my CPU pinmod and stock Bios Gfx OC i gained about a 10FPS boost in TF2 @ high settings with shadows, AF & AA off. taking me from about 25-45 to 35-55FPS avg on a 24 man server.

    this basically made every class playable where as before OCing i was not playing sniper/scout as much.

    but no one else here has even reported doing same the pinmod i have done... so im the only exmp. of what this boost is like. across the the board id say my PC feels 20% faster.

    now time to try this Bios mod out! :)
     
  12. anthonykit

    anthonykit Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks so much.
    Now I have at least some idea of why you did the voltage increase.
    Btw, I have an R2 i7.
    I have bios OC'ed to 166 and did the max intelburn for 40 runs.
    Then I reset it to normal.
    I never got around to anything else again yet with work a baby, 3 early teen kids at home.
     
  13. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    with my pinmod and my vmod, and gpu OC, my m11x feels like a whole new beast. went from about 6.7 to 6.8k in 3dm06 with just the bios OC, to 7790 with all my mods.. all worth it.
     
  14. anthonykit

    anthonykit Notebook Consultant

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    ajslay, I am just trying to find out any gaming benefits due to the voltage increase of the gpu.

    When you say "gpu OC" are you talking about the voltage increase in this thread ?

    Can you name a game you play where you saw a difference since the gpu voltage increase ?
     
  15. kevmanw4301

    kevmanw4301 Notebook Deity

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    The voltage increase simply allows for better OC'ing, since the GPU is recieving more power. Question for DavyGT, is it possible to go higher than .95v, with the BIOS or pin-mod?
     
  16. some guy

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    just a quick comment on temps/fans speed while im trying out different clocks.

    are the fan tables different? it seems that all the speeds have been knocked down 10c

    with that in mind im not seeing anythi.g above 50c since my fan is blasting at that temp. never even heard it go that fast before. lol
     
  17. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    It is possible to go higher then .95v with a vmod. I already tried a 1v VBIOS mod with tassadar898, it doesn't work as it is out of the voltage range controlled by the VBIOS.

    I haven't changed anything besides the VBIOS. I think it's trying to stay at 50C rather then letting temperatures pass that. Need to reprogram the EC for that.
     
  18. kevmanw4301

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    Hmm, VBIOS mod in the future? That could be a challenge, but were running out of mods. Got to go somewhere.
     
  19. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    I just did a VBIOS mod for both R1 and R2. :confused:
     
  20. kevmanw4301

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    I mean... waiit. What are you modding? The system BIOS or card BIOS? I'm out of the loop.
     
  21. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    I'm modding the card BIOS inside the system BIOS.
     
  22. kevmanw4301

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    Ahhh, makes sense. I'm not used to systems with VBIOS's in system BIOS. I the only BIOS mod I've ever done is one to get the "MXM-ROM not compatible" message to go away on my M9750, when I had a 280M in it. So then, another portion, that is unmodable, in the VBIOS, stops 1v?
     
  23. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    The VBIOS only supports 4 voltages- .8v to .95v in .05v steps.
     
  24. tassadar898

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    davy do you know if its possible to do .85V -> 1V :)
     
  25. kevmanw4301

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    Makes sense. Thanks!
     
  26. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    So far no and probably not in the future. I'll confirm when Nibitor has support for the GT335M.

    But why stop at 1v when you can vmod and get 1.1v+?
     
  27. kevmanw4301

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    If you can get to 1.1v, that would be messed. I think 9.5k 3DMark 06 on an i7 TS Set PLL to above 170. I want to see the thing break 10k, but I doubt it will.
     
  28. some guy

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    well i think the Gfx card is hitting a major wall around 600mhz. i was able to pass 3Dmark @630/1512/900mhz but thats all shes got... which is basically not much higher from my stock Bios. and my score when up to 8182. which is cool but not ground breaking.

    my temps are actually lower due to this fan issue that im having now. couldnt tell you why its happening but before i could see temps around 55-60c but the fan seemed to stay in the "low" setting until about 60 when it would go to "medium" speed. maybe the fan doesnt trip off the GPU sensor? and its somthing else getting hotter with the vmod telling the fan to ramp up... idk...

    ether why im 90% sure im going back to the stock Bios. i really am greatful for those that worked hard on this but the extra mhz dont make a big difference vs my PC being that much louder.
     
  29. kevmanw4301

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    True. It very much depends on the card. Many people saw substatial increases, while others may not. Luck of the draw.
     
  30. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    Didn't Mumak have a fan control thread for the M11x? If that doesn't work, I'll see what I can do.
     
  31. some guy

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    yea. thats what im saying...

    im still very happy at my OC even without the Bios mod. i am very lucky to get 2 nice chips in one laptop. :)
     
  32. tassadar898

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    haha, you know i'll be the first to test a 4 volt modded bios that you make for "experimental" reasons.
     
  33. kevmanw4301

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    4v, would be trying to set your lap on fire.
     
  34. mosaic

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    Wild. I actually think my R2 is QUIETER since this mod. Fan kicks on less often.

    For me, I've seen slight, but welcome, practical improvements: +3 FPS in Crysis, +4 FPS in Need for Speed Hot Pursuit, framerate no longer dropping below 60 in GRID, +4 FPS in Test Drive Unlimited 2... I usually run 1366x768 at low or medium settings.

    For me--framerate matters most. Everything is just that much smoother, fewer jitters.

    Also, it has to be said that TDU2 was coded by people that don't know how to optimize, so every little bit helps. I used to average around 40. Now, I see 45 a lot on FRAPS. I have never cracked 50fps in that game. It was around 30 before the last patch...
     
  35. kevmanw4301

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    What is that i5 running at? Mighty high OC.
     
  36. some guy

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    just went back to the stock bios to make sure i wasnt crazy.

    the fan table(or whatever) is back to normal. fan stays off till 50c at which it ramps up to low setting and med setting at 60c & i never see anything higher than that.

    one thing to note. i was scared i was going to have to open up the laptop and cut my pinmod after the Bios flash because the Bios defaults engaging and setting OC mode off. but that totally didnt happen. thank god!
     
  37. ajslay

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    no, the voltage mod just increases the gpu voltage so you can have a higher overclock.
     
  38. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    oh yeah! thats what im thinking, you got lucky haha =p
     
  39. mosaic

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    Mine? Temperatures?

    Non-gaming, I'm between 48-55c on the CPU and 46-54 GPU.

    Gaming, i tend to hover around 74 on the CPU and 64 on GPU. I have seen spikes of 85 CPU / 75 GPU, usually playing NFS Hot Pursuit. I play on my lap though, so when I hear the fan get loud, I move it a bit so the vent has more airflow.

    I should probably get a cooling unit for lap use :)
     
  40. Mattsc

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    okay so i have two questions.. so i installed the modded bios for my r1 now but im wondering what program should i use to oc my gpu? and if there is no change how do i change back to my stock bios?
    thanks i know its a noob question but im a little lost lol
     
  41. DavyGT

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    I recommend nvidia Inspector as it can set clocks at startup with a shortcut without having a program monitoring in the background like Afterburner or Precision.

    If there is no change, then there is no reason to keep the modded BIOS.
     
  42. ajslay

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    i also noticed my fan is on a bit more, but i found something amazing...
    i used to idle at about 46C but its at 36C right now.. my m11x is cold.
    i love it. and the fan is bairly running. i think the lowest it can go.
     
  43. Mattsc

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    If there is no change on my r1 what link is there available for my stock bios download? iv been searching but have found nothing that works.. =/
     
  44. Mattsc

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    yeah my r1 is staying in the mid 30's o_O this mod has definitely drop my temp
     
  45. ajslay

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    thats a good thing, i dont mind the fan running =p
    should be slightly cooler when gaming also.
     
  46. Mattsc

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    yeah im enjoying it so far. im going to oc and see how it is as well.
    is this modded bios still the a05 or a04 because its coming up as a04 on my computer
     
  47. some guy

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    I knew i wasnt crazy about this fan issue...

    well after its all said and done i got about 30more mhz stable on the core clock. but thats it. i guess its to be expected since im probabily really close with my stock OC to that sweet spot before you need to start dumping real juice into the chip to see more gains.

    so i flashed back to the stock Bios. due to my clocks barely changed and the fan table seemed to move down 10c accross the board. dont get me wrong, i love cooler temps. but not when i barley hit 60c on the GPU and 50c on the CPU as is. thats plenty cool for load temps and i dont need the extra noise and battery drain for the fan being on 90% of the time.
     
  48. ajslay

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    im sure you will get a good clock increase, and i just checked cpu-z and its A04.
    i dont really care what bios it is as long as it works and has the volt mod lol

    so far im stable at 605/911/1470
    im loving it. its like i have a whole new gpu lol

    iv got an increase of 45mhz on the core clock, and 30 on the shader. every bit helps.
     
  49. Mattsc

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    i overclocked it and i cant get it to .95 volts like all of you are saying. =[ what oc setting are you setting yours at. and how do i check my 3dmark 06 or what ever its called lol
     
  50. ajslay

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    did you flash the new bios? and did you install the program called 3dmark06?
    it will only show 0.95v under load also
     
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