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    m11x R1 260.99 Hybrid Drivers + Intel 2020

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by RigelKent, Nov 3, 2010.

  1. Andrew08

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    Means for now i'll be working on Intel HD graphic notebook(dell vostro 3700, lenovo thinkpad t410i or s , etc), once they are finished I'll start pre stage 2 which is Alienware m11x r1 and Sony VGNZ, this driver for now only available for Sony VPCZ1.
     
  2. DrGoodvibes

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    Currently have a Nvidia 260.63 / Intel version 8.15.10.2302 hybrid driver up and running.

    Switching doesn't work yet, with BSOD, but I only just got started. :)

    Have a bit more research to do.

    But just for reference Intel GMA 8.15.10.2302 is bootable in a Nvidia Hybrid driver set on an M11xR1.

    I decided to get cracking on this as if Nvidia 270 is as good as reported, then I want a bit of the action on my M11xR1 and the only way seems to be to do it yourself.

    I checked Opera 11.50, but it still doesn't support GPU acceleration in the Intel GMA environment. Good news for FF4, GPU acceleration does work without having to force it. IE9 is fine, but that worked before on an Intel GMA 2020 driver anyway.

    WEI still lists the Graphics environment in Intel GMA as 3.2
     
  3. BobbyBaby

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    Can someone upload and post the complete intel 2226 install file (not just the inf file but the whole exe or zip).. Cant seem to find it anywhere on google and the link here in on Zathu's post (post # 117) is also routing it to a dead link on intel's site.. thanks
     
  4. DrGoodvibes

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    Just use Intel GMA 2281. Think GMA 2226 may have had issues.

    Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator Driver
     
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    Anybody have a hybrid driver that uses the new 270.51 nvidia driver?
     
  6. mario64

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    Despite my best efforts I simply cannot get the 270.51 or .61 drivers to work with hybrid. I'm not convinced they even support it. That said, however, I've been running an nvidia 263.08/intel 2881 hybrid driver for a couple of weeks now without any major issues. The set is based on Dell's newest release. I just added in the newer Intel drivers and modified the inf accordingly.

    The only issue I've experienced is the same one others have with the Dell 263.08 release, i.e. sometimes when you boot Hybrid isn't enabled at all. You just have to shut down and restart the computer to fix it.
     
  7. Mucchan

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    Can you please elaborate on that if you don't mind? I'm currently using the stock 263.08/1994 driver from Dell.
     
  8. mario64

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    I just extracted the Dell 263.08 set and the official Intel 2281 set using winrar then copy/pasted the contents of the Intel driver's Graphics folder (excluding the lang sub-folder) into the Dell driver's Display.Driver folder overwriting any existing files. Lastly I modified the inf to for the updated Intel driver. I've attached it here if anyone wants to try it.

    Keep in mind this is using Windows Test mode as described earlier in this thread. In fact I followed RigelKent's instructions from page 1 to the letter. The only piece he left out, and it's an important one, was to sign the two primary intel and nvidia driver files after installation using DSEO. You either have to do that or press F8 during every Windows bootup and select "Disable Driver Signature Enforcement".

    In case you're wondering why I didn't use Intel's latest 2302 driver it's because that driver produces a BSOD anytime you try to activate it. I'm hoping their next release will work correctly in a Hybrid package. We'll see...
     

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  9. DrGoodvibes

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    I'm in the process of building a Nvidia 270.61/Intel 2302 hybrid driver set (switchable) for the M11xR1 GT335M(Only)

    To quote a famous person - "I am just going outside and may be some time"
     
  10. Mucchan

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    Thank you for this. I managed to update the Intel driver on mine to 2281 using the INF you posted.
     
  11. mario64

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    Awesome. Glad to hear it. :D
     
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    Forgive my ignorance, but I am confused by what you mean when you said switchable, and then GT335M(Only). However if this means I can use hybrid with 270.61 + a newer Intel (2302 or a 22xx series) then i will be so happy.
     
  13. GNandGS

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    He means for the M11xR1 with GT335M "only". Not R2 etc.
     
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    That's what I figured lol thanks!
     
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    I tried to do this, and using your INF and signing the driver files after install. My issue was I wasn't sure which were the two intel & nvidia files that I should sign, so I tried to sign all I could find.... still didn't work :( Could you provide any guidance or a pre-signed package (well one I could use with test mode at least).
     
  16. Mucchan

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    try editing nvcadm.inf and change the line:
    CatalogFile = nvcadm.cat to CatalogFile = igdlh.cat

    if that doesn't work then try to sign nvlddmkm.sys and igdkmd64.sys (both should be in the Windows\System32\drivers\ folder)
     
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    Correct. Those are the two files I signed.
     
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    Can anyone summarize this topic? Is there any fully workable version which will setup like official one? Without any extra movements?
     
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    Do any of the newer Intel drivers fix the "Intel video + Flash HWA + bios OC = corrupt video" problem?
     
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    I spent a few hours going through this thread and that thread for running optimus style drivers on the R1 and tried out both approaches. Here's what I found.

    1.) Self Signing the modified driver package:

    The drivers in this thread require self signing and booting the computer in test mode every reboot. If you forget then you need to reinstall drivers to fix it. Pain in the butt and not worth the trouble for me personally, but some people may not mind. There is no clean and simple installer to do this.

    Also, this may now be a moot point since they released the 263 drivers. The only working set in this thread was based off the 260 drivers, so the only advantage is to try and get upgraded intel drivers. DrGoodvibes has been doing some great work on trying to get a working updated set using 270+ nvidia and 2200+ intel drivers but hasn't reported success yet, and his last post was a month ago so maybe nothing.

    2.) The Optimus driver method

    Advantage is you don't have to use test mode, and if you can get it all working you'll be able to run more recent Intel and Nvidia graphics drivers. Basically all you do is add the GeForce 335m hardware ID lines to a couple of the INF files in the Verde installer package and it will install. You install the latest Intel drivers separately.

    BUT - running these drivers the Nvidia chip never powers down, so you don't save battery life at all, and in fact it makes it worse according to reports in that thread. So what's the point? You might as well just run dedicated.

    If someone can figure out how to get things setup in Optimus mode and have the Nvidia chip power down then great, but it may not be possible and could be a hardware limitation. Unfortunately I think it's become just a distraction from this thread and rolling out own installer package with updated and modified drivers. We're kind of stuck with hoping Alienware/Dell still keeps updating drivers for the R1, but with Optimus R2/R3 m11x they may just ignore us.
     
  21. GNandGS

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    I think we will get one more official update.... with no proof at all I make my prediction! You read it here first. ;)
     
  22. hteng

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    i guess everyone abandoned the r1? sad :(
     
  23. DeeVu

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    As far as the 260.99 drivers go they are abandoned. Especially since they have the 263 driver released by dell a month or two ago.
     
  24. hteng

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    wow! thanks for the heads up, i was not expecting dell to release new update for the r1 after 1 year of hiatus.
     
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    What?! I was not informed either! Thank you for asking! Lawls
     
  26. GNandGS

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    263 released 4 months ago in March. My prediction is one more version. Time will tell...

    Been running on 197 for a while. In day to day stuff seems same as any other - even bleeding edge 335 only drivers. Many folks though do seem to have gained benefits updating or even using experimental drivers. My point is don't feel obligated to run the latest if an older set does better in your game/app. That said, I do wish the intel side would get some of the updates. Bigger changes there. Have a look through this thread carefully... you may wish the 26x-modded over 263-official

    The only big diff I noticed was stand alone drivers being slightly more stable in a hacked version of a game heavy on shaders. Turns out any driver works better with shader stuff turned down so I dropped back to official R1 releases.
     
  27. hteng

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    hmm weird, i installed the dell 263 driver and switching is fine but it doesn't really turn off my nvidia GPU. is anyone getting this issue?

    before i install i had the modded 260.99 and intel 2020 drivers, but i have since uninstall those, did a driver sweep. and then installed this dell 263 driver.

    any help would be greatly apprieciated.

    edit: had to restart the laptop to see the nvidia gpu off, but when i turn it on and off again, it still stays on. is there a delay before it shuts completely off? i don't recall it was like that for the stock drivers
     
  28. exProphecy

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    wait how do you know the nVidia gpu is still running when you've switched to intel?
     
  29. hteng

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    check with GPUz or Hw monitor, if it's on you'll see the device there and you'll notice the battery life didn't increase (3 hours for nvidia GPU, 4-5 hours for intel GPU).

    anyway, i sorta fixed it, i just switch to intel GPU then put it to sleep, wake it and you'll see the nvidia GPU gone. after that it will turn on and off accordingly, sleep not required.
     
  30. exProphecy

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    Wait.. Yea so.. when I first turn on my computer and set on intel, I don't see the nvidia GPU in GPUZ. However, when I switch to the nvidia GPU, I can see both the intel and nvidia in GPUZ. Then, when I switch to nvidia GPU, I can see both intel and nvidia in GPUZ. So does that mean both are turned on?
     
  31. GNandGS

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    Search around. Lotsa posts on it. I think if you wait it shuts of/goes away.
     
  32. exProphecy

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    I tried searching for topics about it but no avail.. and I've waited about 15 minutes and the nVidia GPU is still present.. it also still says 3 hours instead of 6 hours if it were only running on the Intel card :(

    Could you help me out finding these posts your speak of? :)

    EDIT: I checked to see if the other card switches off and it does! However.. it takes about 20 mins. But yes, if you can still help me out on finding those posts, it would be quite helpful! :D Perhaps someone has found a solution or more insight on this problem.
     
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    Just wondering, is there any other updated hybrid driver or anything out there that we can use on an R1? I hate having such old drivers running when there's newer ones out there that give performance increases, but am forced to because upgrading to them will kill one of the main features of the laptop that I use.
     
  34. DeeVu

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    I know a lot of people like having the save power mode but if you use the R1 for gaming. I'd highly recommend setting BIOS to discrete and installing the 275.33 driver. My brother plays Bad Company 2 with at LEAST 10 more fps than with the 263 driver.
     
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    I use it for secondary gaming. My desktop is my primary gaming machine and my laptop is for carrying around with me everywhere, however when I get somewhere and I have time, I like to be able to play some games on it. It can run most of what I need to fine as it is, but I would obviously prefer to have newer drivers with better support and performance for games. Since I carry it around so much (a lot of times having it in my car playing music through a 3.5mm adapter) I really do not want to lose the IGP. I know it will still last long enough for most things, however that 5-6 hours really increases the ability to take it places and not worry about charging it vs the 2-3 from discrete.
     
  36. DeeVu

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    Mmmm... well If anyone could make a hybrid driver I'd highly recommend the 270 or 275 driver. Adds a tremendous boost in performance.
     
  37. GNandGS

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    if you want it to be immediate, put your laptop to sleep, then wake it, it should turn off the nvidia gpu immediately upon waking up. After that you won't experience delay turn off, but the problem seems to resurface when i do a reboot.
     
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    THIS I A DREAM COME TRUE!!!! Guess I'm gonna have to suffer decreased battery for better BFBC2 performance. Is there any performance boost for ArmA 2 you think? Also, is there any battery saving boosts with this driver?
     
  40. killerfrenzi

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    so I haven't been able to get rid of the gfxui successfully, but I was wondering if it'll really matter if I get rid of it or not?
     
  41. amd098

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    a hybrid 275.33 would probably a dream come true haha
     
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    is it just me or after installing the driver I only have 2.40gb of ram "usable"?
     
  43. cunder01

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    Really, this right here says it all. I got a better gaming performance boost from installing the latest Nvidia drivers that I did from any of the optimization / over-clocking advice you find on this forum.
     
  44. RigelKent

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    Im back :


    Things Im currently working on and their progress :

    Everything is based on
    NVIDIA 285.38 Beta (Latest for Nvidia..so
    far)
    Intel v2413 Driver, dated June 2011, latest for Intel Series 4 sofar.

    Optimus Driver for the M11x R1 Hybrid

    Status :

    Everything is working, only one hiccup, even though Nvidia GPU enters a low power state, lower clock and lower voltages when not in use, it is still a far cry from the power savings from Hybrid mode wherein the NVIDIA Chip completely powers down and also not as efficient compared to a real Optimus platform.



    Hybrid Driver For Alienware m11x R1

    Nvidia Version : 285.39 Beta (latest i think)
    Intel Version : 06/03/2011,8.15.10.2413 (latest for Intel Series 4 which is what is in the M11x)


    Everything works except for one major flaw, I can only switch from Nvidia - > Intel, I cant go from Intel - > Nvidia, well I CAN go from Intel -> Nvidia but the process is tedious.


    Currently using my optimus driver for this M11x R1 and so far loving it, though I would rather perfect the Hybrid driver since I prefer more control with the switching.

    Will upload both versions (Optimus and Hybrid) once I ironed out the issues with the Hybrid Set.
     
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    Looking forward to trying out the results of your hard work !
     
  46. Catzoo

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    Same here !!! I would love to have working newest driver to play at decent fps and still have my awesome battery for school !

    Looking for your work , keep up !
     
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    I didn't think optimus for R1 would be possible, good work!
     
  48. DrGoodvibes

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    Wow, I'm sitting next to myself with excitement and smoldering socks to see what can be done.

    I had a go at creating a hybrid driver, but didn't get to a completed working driver.
    It seemed easy to start with... but then just went down hill from there.
    I was only looking at Intel 2281/Nvidia 267 or there abouts.

    Would it be possible to create a hybrid driver with the latest Nvidia/Intel drivers?
    Or is that just so not possible now.


    As the M11xR1 gets older and battery life is reduced, any status quo in resource use is always a bonus if it can be engineered in.

    I find my M11xR1 is now just used for coding with only the odd switch to discrete GPU when attaching to DisplayPort/HDMI monitors. I think my fan is still working, I hardly ever hear it.

    So, welcome back sir, it's been a while. :D
    And thank you for all your M11xR1 massive efforts.
     
  49. RigelKent

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    I am still trying to optimize power usage, my first few versions of optimus for the m11x R1 yielded 14-16 WH during idle , i was playing around with the powercontrol thru registry and managed 9-14 WH during idle which is better if not the same as the real optimus (R2 M11x), can any R2 user confirm their power usage during idle? data for both max and min brightness will be appreciated.

    I still prefer hybrid though, it has color correction which really brings out the color and makes applications and games look more interesting....but im having difficulty switching back from nvidia - > intel, what is amazing with the new driver sets from nvidia and intel, 285.38 for nvidia and 2413 for intel series 4 is that I havent encountered a single BSOD / Blank screen experimenting with them, optimus worked almost out of the bat with minor power savings (am trying really hard to get close or get better power savings from the actual optimus), i was expecting a lot of BSOD's from experimenting with hybrid mode but so far i encountered none.

    Anyone have any ideas to resolve the hybrid problem switching back to intel from nvidia using the set NV 285.38 + INT 2413 ?

    Tried controlling the power states when switching to no avail (i may be doing it wrong)

    with R1 Optimus i can say im done 95%, everything works but i want to bring down power usage when nvidia is not in use from 14-16WH to 7-9WH or at least 10-14 WH

    If any of the figures i mentioned here sounds way off please inform me, Im currently tipsy, I always drink before experimenting with new drivers so as to have extended patience waiting for the reboot to see the changes im testing. Am using SSD and boot time is very good, but still tedious if you have to do it over and over again just to test something.

    Really need your ideas guys. Am almost done with optimus, only issue remaining is I want a lower idle power usage on par with hybrid, however I prefer hybrid over optimus, i want complete control when it comes to the switching, plus the color correction is pretty handy, optimus doesnt have this only hybrid.
     
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    you sir, are sick good
    i prefer hybrid rather than optimus
    except when it comes to primes
     
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