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    m11x r1 333mhz vis BIOS mod

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by smsmasters, Sep 14, 2011.

  1. Kingerno

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    Unfortunately overclocking through the bios is not going to work. The multiplier option is not working properly. The pnly options in the performance menu are more thermal options...
     
  2. ahmed hossam

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    that`s exactly what i said in my replies in the other thread and i said that frequency option might not work properly too .
    BTW , i will upload the mod in few hours and this mod enable you to full control thermal options , ahci , virtualization , dynamic fsb , c states , frequency ratio .

    i guess frequency ratio will only work for downclocking but will not accept higher multipliers .
     
  3. deadboy90

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    nooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!! (starts sobbing)
     
  4. smsmasters

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    Is there any chance for the max 6.5 multiplier (which works on the stock BIOS in non oc mode)?

    When overclock mode is enabled on the stock BIOS it caps the multiplier to 6x.

    That way at least we'll have a true 1.73GHz overclock (266MHz x 6.5)
     
  5. ahmed hossam

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    frequency ratio option has choices from 6x to 27x and the default choice as well .
    you should see the option and can adjust it in the previous mod ........ you can test this option in the previous mod .
    let me knew if you don`t see this option .

    EDIT: no choice for 6.5 multiplier ....... its just 6x , 7x , 8x ......etc .
     
  6. RayDawg

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    I have no idea what multipliers do so should I assume that a 7x multiplier means higher clock rates?
     
  7. deadboy90

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    ill do it but... how?
     
  8. RayDawg

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    I have no idea, but if you know how to change the multiplier, try bumping it up to 8x. That should give you 2.1+ ghz if my math is correct.
     
  9. cunder01

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    I am not seeing the option in the bios to do this.
     
  10. ahmed hossam

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    in my post #22 i have posted some pics for the mod emulation and the first pic show the frequency option ( after the dynamic fsb ) and you should see it in the setup utility and can adjust it for test then see if it works or not .

    and yes the higher multipliers you adjust the higher frequency you get .

    EDIT : sorry cunder01 , i didn`t see your reply as i was writing mine .
    there are some routines controlling showing or hiding any option .......... the routine was adjusted to hide the option for special cpus and i will modify the routine now in this mod .
     
  11. Kingerno

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    The option is not visible
     
  12. RayDawg

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    So is there still hope for a higher clock rate above 1.73??
     
  13. deadboy90

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    the r1s arent really running at 1.73, the cores will run at that but are throttled back to ~1.6
     
  14. RayDawg

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    Crap, so all hope is lost then?
     
  15. deadboy90

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    what? no i hope not! thats just the cores normal behavior Ahmed is going to post the new modded BIOS which will hopefully have the option to change the multiplier as changing the Bus speed isnt possible. Fingers crossed!
     
  16. deadboy90

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    ITS HERE!!! testing it now!!!!
     
  17. m3talfingers

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    fingers crossed guys.....
     
  18. deadboy90

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    Bad news guys, the multiplier option is unlocked but the only option in it is x6, the stock speed. Sorry everyone
     
  19. bus_dr1v3r

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    Don't lose hope yet!!! Somebody please do me a favor and enable the memory frequency option in the bios and check cpu-z to see what the memory ratio is with overclock mode disabled!! There is more hope for pinmodders.

    I took screenshots of overclock mode with the option turned off and turned on. In overclock mode with the option turned on the memory ratio goes from 2:3 to 4:5. Could this be the mod that will get us to 2.4ghz?
     

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    tried exactly that about 15 minutes ago, havent pinmodded my r1 though, but the multiplier stayed at 6.5 even when frequency ratio was set to 6 in bios.
     
  21. bus_dr1v3r

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    No, not the CPU frequency, the memory frequency. I think its two options down and just has an enable/disable. I need to know what the memory ratio shows as in cpuz with this option enabled and overclocking disabled.
     
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    with it disabled the ratio is 1:2
     
  23. bus_dr1v3r

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    with memory frequency enabled and overclock disabled?
     
  24. some guy

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    VERY interested in the results of this...

    i have dip switches hooked up to my PLL and can manually control the BUS feq. if the ratio can be lowered and the 6.5 multi working. we could see 2.4ghz or maybe even 2.6ghz depending how low the ratio can go.
     
  25. deadboy90

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    with both disabled. with memory frequency enabled and overclock still disabled its 3:5
     
  26. bus_dr1v3r

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    Can't you flip a few dip switches and see what might be possible here. It would seem that 2.4 should be possible with OC mode turned on correct? With the memory frequency enabled the memory timings loosen up to 4:5 with overclock enabled.
     
  27. cunder01

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    Overclock enabled, memory timing disabled 2:3
    Overclock enabled, memory timing enabled 4:5
    Overclock disabled, memory timing enabled 3:5
    Overclock disabled, memory timing disabled 1:2
     
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    sorry im not running the modded Bios.

    2.4 is possible in OC mode if you can find RAM that will run @ 1200mhz Cas6 (not going to happen)


    ive already done a TON of testing on my M11x with a few ppl over in the pinmod thread. my M11x is no longer a lab rat. :rolleyes:

    but if you guys post some positive changes in the area of memory ratios, timings or 6.5 multiplier working in OC mode i may flash the modded Bios.

    sorry guys. already played Russian roulette with my M11x to many times with out bricking it. im not pressing my luck any further untill the methods are tested...
     
  29. cunder01

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    You boys with the 2ghz pinmod should flash your bios, turn off your overclock, turn on memory timing, and see if your 2.4ghz M11x works :)
     
  30. bus_dr1v3r

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    I don't mind playing lab rat for a while, but my math is not that great apparently. What kind of memory timings would we be looking at for 400mhz with 4:5 ratio? And at 3:5?
     
  31. cunder01

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    500mhz for the 4:5

    and 667mhz for the 3:5
     
  32. some guy

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    this would brick the laptop if things dont work right. if the ratio remained @ 1:2 you would be asking to run @ 333 x 4 = 1200mhz Cas6. then you would have to unsolder the mod and then reset the BIOS to boot again.
     
  33. bus_dr1v3r

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    and what are the timings for 400 mhz at 1:2 and 2:3?

    my mod is set up so that its pretty easy to enable/disable, I may even have some dip switches laying around to try out. I really want to shoot for 400mhz in overclock mode. Am I correct in assuming that I would only need my ram to handle 1000mhz for that?
     
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    anything higher than Cas6 would be awesome.
     
  35. deadboy90

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    man i dont even care anymore, all i got out of this is no softmod for more r1 overclocking :(
     
  36. some guy

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    sorry no. ram speed is bus feq times whatever ratio.

    so...

    400mhz(bus speed) x 2(dual data rate) x2(ratio) = 1600mhz @ Cas6

    cpu-z will display this as 800mhz Cas6. if it was possible to boot with those settings. but its not.
     
  37. cunder01

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    That is correct. In addition, for 400mhz in overclock off mode, you would need 1333mhz ram in cas6.
     
  38. cunder01

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    You're missing the fact that the new memory timings option will change the overclock disabled timing to 3:5, and the overclock enabled timing to 4:5.
     
  39. bus_dr1v3r

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    I'm taking my system apart to enable pin 2! I'll be back in about an hour to report good new hopefully.
     
  40. cunder01

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    If you didn't disconnect pin 2 when you did your pinmod, turning off the overclock (with memory timing ON) should set you to 400mhz at 6.5, meaning you'd have a 2.6ghz with your memory running at 1300ishmhz... just food for thought :).

    I would try out all this fun stuff myself, but I have an appalling lack of both a soldering station and the ability to use one. Here's hoping the wife gets me one for Christmas!! :p
     
  41. bus_dr1v3r

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    I thought woth it disabled it would have been more like 1300 with the 3:5 timings. Am I missing something.
     
  42. cunder01

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    No, you're correct... I did my math wrong. Fixed the original post though :p
     
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    i could be missing something but how is a 400mhz bus speed with 1200mhz or 1600mhz ram going to work?

    the only setting that will work with those ratios is 333mhz x 3 = 1000mhz OCmode disabled. means 2.16ghz... possibly if the setting 6.5 multi works in nonOC mode

    2,16ghz would be awesome! other than that would be a lost cause
     
  44. bus_dr1v3r

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    Almost down to the mono, shouldn't take much longer
     
  45. bus_dr1v3r

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    The ram timings are changed with this bios.
     
  46. some guy

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    what i think you guys need to realize is the ability to do one of few things needs to happen:

    use higher thiming than Cas6 to allow higher than 1000mhz RAM speed

    losse the 6 multiplier cap in OC mode so we can get 2.16ghz with the current 333mhz OC.

    change ratios that allow lower RAM speed to deal with the tight Cas6 timing
     
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    to what? above Cas6 ?
     
  48. cunder01

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    So, let's just look at one setting. We have:
    Overclock enabled, memory timing enabled

    Assume 400mhz bus speed, so we have a 2.4ghz cpu.

    The memory timing for this is 4:5. So, it's 400(bus speed)*5/4(ratio)*2(DDR) = 1000mhz.
     
  49. cunder01

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    The memory timing option is not changing memory speed or cas latency of the memory. It's changing the memory:bus speed ratio.
     
  50. bus_dr1v3r

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    Go back to page 7 and look at my screen shots. The memory timings on the 4:5 ratio are almost 100 MHz lower than the 2:3 ratio
     
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