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    m11x r1 333mhz vis BIOS mod

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by smsmasters, Sep 14, 2011.

  1. some guy

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    so your @ 2.4ghz?

    if my math serves me that would be 1066mhz RAM speed. are you running this speed @ Cas6?
     
  2. some guy

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    actually it would be 1280mhz

    you can look at it this way:

    400mhz BUS = 1600mhz FSB

    1600 / 5 = 320

    320 x 4 = 1280
     
  3. bus_dr1v3r

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    I'm still turning pin 2 on
     
  4. some guy

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    please understand guys. not trying to come off as a jerk. just trying to help with my hundreds of pages of knowledge from over on the pinmod thread ive been with since the beginning.

    my math could be wrong... and i will wake up tomorrow and be like" what the F did i tell those poor guys?"

    but right now im pretty sure its right.

    trust me i want this to work badly too! :)
     
  5. RayDawg

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    I come back to this thread and noticed what seemed to be an explosion of 4 additional pages and had a glimmer of hope. Unfortunately, I have no idea what you guys are talking about :( . Can someone please tell me if there's any possibility of getting to (or past) 2 ghz without having to split my r1 open (so to speak)?
     
  6. bus_dr1v3r

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    Can I solder pin two to to pin 55 via 10k resistor to turn it on.
     
  7. some guy

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    yup i ran pin 7 to pin 55 for 2.0ghz for a few months. :)
     
  8. deadboy90

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    no their talking about how the mod could help with pinmodding no help for us man :(
     
  9. bus_dr1v3r

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    Do I need the resistor though?
     
  10. some guy

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    yea, still need the resistor.
     
  11. cunder01

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    Here's where I come from (this is all taken from my CPU-Z):

    I'm at Bus Speed 266.0MHz, multiplier 6, and so about 1600MHz core speed. My rated FSB is 1064. My FSB :DRAM is 2:3.

    This would mean that my memory should be, according to your way, 709MHz.

    But, it is not. It is 800MHz. Which is what you get when you multiply 266*(3/2)*2.
     
  12. bus_dr1v3r

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    I cant seem to get pin 2 to turn on. Grrrr.
     
  13. DavyGT

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    To those expecting unlocked multipliers, don't as the CPU is not an unlocked Extreme edition CPU.

    To those expecting a removal of the 6x lock, don't. The 6x multiplier lock is in hardware. This is because Dell programmed the Overclock mode to use 266mhz BSEL codes instead of properly sending the signals to the PLL. Using BSEL codes to overclock will lock any Core CPU with a 945GM chipset or above to the lowest multiplier, which is in this case 6x.

    To those who want 333mhz Overclock mode, I did say unlocking the BIOS and modding it to support 333mhz OC mode as 2 different, almost mutually exclusive things.
    According to my calculations it should be possible overclock to 2.4Ghz. Here they are: (400 / 4) * 5 = 500mhz DDR (Where 400 = FSB, 4 and 5 = 4:5 ratio with overclock mode, memory timing activated).

    The RAM will be running at 1000mhz however so good clocking RAM is needed. It's not impossible to find good clocking RAM, 1.73Ghz mod users will have some already (They run their RAM at 1066mhz). With such a high frequency, it may not be possible for .9v to be adequate so I suggest the 1.1v VID mod to go along with this mod.
     
  14. bus_dr1v3r

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    I'm going to retry tomorrow. I'm getting tired and frustrated!
     
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    hey i was looking at Rightmark CPU clock utility and according to that with the Overclock on the CPU is running at ~1.73 but right next to that its also showing thats being throttled to ~1.6, any hope of removing that throttle?
     
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    Great, im gonna go cry myself to sleep now. Night all!
     
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    This is heartbreaking a bios overclock would have been amazing.

    Thanks for trying Ahmed.
     
  19. smsmasters

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    This is quoted from that topic:

    Can this be done?
     
  20. DavyGT

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    You can try. I don't know why this hasn't been done already if Dell could have done it at release.
     
  21. some guy

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    yea thats what i am getting now.... i was wrong

    but then i read this and get confused again... do i need more coffee or what?




    deepest apologies to anyone for any confusion....

    :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:


    so aside from my incredible confusion. your sayin that basically all id have to do is run this Bios set my jumpers to 400mhz and id run 2.4ghz (assuming my CPU can handle the OC)?

    and the speeds would be:

    2.4ghz CPU
    1600mhz FSB
    1000mhz (Cas6)RAM
     
  22. DavyGT

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    Yes, so long as Overclock mode is on, the RAM is capable of running 1000mhz, there is enough voltage for the CPU to be stable and the chipset can handle such a high overclock- looking over at examples here, most stop at 333mhz. We start at 333mhz.
     
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    ok i may try for this later in the week then.

    but i have no time for opening up my M11x to do the VID mod. as my week old 2011 Corolla interior is all apart as im changing the interior lights from the stock amber color to blue and white. i swear it never ends with me, modding sickness.... i haz it... :(

    i think my CPU would boot @ 2.4 but IDK about stability @ 0.90v...

    im actually even more worried about the chipset @ 1600mhz to be honest. would we have a volt mod for this?
     
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    Hopefully it should be enough as I've seen people undervolt full power Core 2 Duos to such levels. If it doesn't work at least there is a mod for that. Unlike the chipset.

    On the desktop, P45 can clock above 400mhz reliably. Hopefully GS45, being related to P45, can clock near as far.
     
  25. some guy

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    i figure the speed isnt the issue for the chipset. i think it would be the fact this is in a ULV set up so they may not have much juice going to it in the first place.

    ULVs are typically the cream of the crop silicon wise but that doent always mean they can OC well on ULV voltage... :(
     
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    IF your going to try this you may need to start thinking about overheating, 2.4ghz is 1.1ghz above what the CPU was supposed to handle. Maybe try the heatsink mod?
     
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    I can't seem to get pin 2 to turn on. I'm done attempting for now. I'll try again in a few days. :(
     
  29. some guy

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    just to clarify, what bus speed where you going for with the pinmod?
     
  30. bus_dr1v3r

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    400mhz with OC enabled

    edit : would running both pins from the same power source, and from the same resistor, work?
     
  31. cunder01

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    So you've got the 2.4ghz working? Have you tried a stress test yet?
     
  32. bus_dr1v3r

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    No, I don't have it working. I was answering some guy's question about the clock speed I am trying to set.

    I have been unsuccessful in getting pin 2 to turn on.

    edit : shouldn't this also work for the ICS and setpll? None of those guys are wanting to get in on this?
     
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    i have not had luck using one power source to turn on multiple pins thru one resistor. they seem to bridge out and one will reroute to ground or something and not all of them end up turning on.

    no one has posted results trying the pinmod on a ICS yet. but i was led to believe that it work the same way as the SLG in that regard. which would make sense considering it needs to work the same way for the OC mode to function as the SLG functions.

    please dont quote me on this as i dont have the ICS data sheet in front of me to verify if its fact or not.
     
  34. bus_dr1v3r

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    I need to find a new power source. I am connected to pin 2 but for some reason I can't seem to get any power from pin 55. I can't use pin6 because I don't want to try to solder that close to pin 7. I'm going to try using the same power source with a different resistor and see what happens.
     
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    off the top of my head i remember these working for me: PINS 6, 19, 27 & 55
     
  36. bus_dr1v3r

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    Apparently you can use the same power source with a different resistor, because I got it to boot like that, but I still don't have 400mhz. I'm beginning to wonder if it will even go into 400 mhz mode. There is no way that I don't have power going to this pin right now.
     
  37. some guy

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    same here. thats why you need 2 different power sources.

    once i did that with 2 power sources my self i couldn't boot @ 400mhz (due to ram limitations im assuming) but when using one power source with both pins i booted in ether 200mhz or 333mhz. like one pin didnt get the signal to turn on at post

    exmp:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/att...-slg-hardmod-only-2011-01-29_12-05-53_335.jpg

    http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p40/robbass13b/7fee8f73.jpg

    not the combo we are referring to but gives you an idea i messed around with just about every combo possible
     
  38. cunder01

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    So it seems like you're saying that one power source canNOT power two pins.
     
  39. bus_dr1v3r

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    I moved the power to pin 19 still with no luck. I don't think it will run higher than 333mhz. I have soldered and tried 3 different power locations and completely removed and resoldered everything about 15-20 times. It only took 2 tries to get the 333mhz mod by powering pin 7, so I know my soldering skills are up to par.
     
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    Hmm... I wish someone with the ICS pll would give this a try so that we could know for certain if the cpu just won't do 400MHz.

    As it stands, you could try a 333MHz pinmod in overclock disabled. You're memory would have to run at 1100MHz, however.
     
  41. bus_dr1v3r

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    I would love to but I don't have enough free time. If somebody else gets it working I may open my system back up, but I can't spend 4 or 5 hours a day on this.
     
  42. some guy

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    any further luck with the Bios being fully unlocked?

    any one else going to follow in bus dr1v3r's footsteps an try this out?
     
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    i would if i had time, sadly with work/univ/business there is no time at all :(
     
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    Too scared. Nee system for work
     
  45. bus_dr1v3r

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    I'm going to try again either Sunday or Monday. I've got to get a better magnifying glass.

    I also have to move my work files over to my Mac mini.
     
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    anyone get anywhere with this?

    id hate to see this guys work on the Bios go to waste. :(
     
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    yeah I'd like to know also how's the progress with this, sadly my r1 is my only computer and I'm in the middle of school period so I can't try it
     
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    Same. My r1 is the only computer I have so I can't experiment with this mod. That being said, the past pages have revealed that a soft mod for the 2 ghz mod is out of the question.
     
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    with this in mind. what would the RAM speed be at 3:5?

    reason im asking is... ive apparently been doing my math wrong this whole time and if the bus is @ 400mhz why not try for Overclock disabled, memory timing enabled? the chipset with still be only running at 1600mhz regardless and having OC mode off bumps up the Vcore a bit and allows the 6.5 multi. with this we would be @ 2.6ghz.
     
  50. DavyGT

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    RAM would be running at 1333mhz effective. (400/3*5=666.66mhz)
     
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