m11xR2 calibrated LCD ICC profile

Yeah, it looks like your camera set WB to the M11x. Photographing displays properly is generally a pain in the hiney.

My profile is really only going to be accurate for my panel when I did it. The variances from one of these cheap panels (LG, Samsung, AUO it doesn't matter) to the next is going to make a "universal" profile for each of them a hit or miss affair. Hopefully it gets you closer to "accurate" greyscale and gamma, but it's quite possible that for some people it won't. Then factor in how a given display's characteristics change over time and you'll quite possibly see a universal profile become even less effective.

 

I set ur profile and now have a very sepia colour to my display.

I guess this standard calibration will not work on all displays as every display is different in gamma and colour due to the manufacturing process.

 

Sounds like you don't have an AUO panel. If you have an LG or Samsung then it shouldn't be used.

 

This is what I experienced also and I have the AUO105C, so I don't know how it could possibly look so different.

 

Give the display calibration wizard that comes with 7 a go and see if you're happy with its results. People have also posted values here for the Intel color enhancement settings that they've been happy with.

 

That's the weird thing as I DO have the AUO panel. Screens are just very different in the manufacturing process. Even high end televisions can differ quite widely out of the box and require vastly different calibrations. If thousands of pounds of high end panel are like this, then think how much they can swing on poorer wuality LCD's.

Ultimately you cannot use a profile calibrated on a different display and expect it to be universal.

 

I applied this to an R1 with AUO Panel. How do I undo the change? I am not sure which one was the default before I made the change.

 

The profile I've provided will show up in the color management console as "m11xR2_06-16-2010". By default there isn't going to be an ICC profile for the display unless you did something like use 7's Display Color Calibration wizard.

What do you have listed? You can either remove a given profile or just change one of the others to the default profile for the display.

 

I understand now...thanks...

 

Is there any way to load profile while im in game? By some key sequence? When i launch doom 3 it loads default profile...

 

I have a coloromiter I use for calibrating TV's. What program do you use to permanently change the settings on your PC?

I have an M11X R1 I'd like to calibrate but dont know how to make changes / lock in those changes.

 

Can't help you with software, but please, if eventually create profile, please upload it here

 

Thank you very much, slickie88 - this profile greatly improves the M11x display. Mine is an R1 though - but the panel is AUO - and the trick works like a charm.

 

Hey Slickie88 -something that is unclear to me, we have the ICC profile and load it up - but then the Window Calibration needs to be checked? Why is this, I thought the profiles purpose was to set the color values, gamma, etc without needing to resort to this?

I have an AUO screen, loaded the profile and had a huge greenish shift after applying the profile. My guess is I had previously run the Windows calibration, so I reran it and the only change necessary was to pull some of the blue out to get a good gray-scale. In general, is it necessary to still run the Windows Calibration Tool after loading the profile since the colors are supposedly correctly mapped now?

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Can someone please tell me what this is suppose to do?
What kind of improvements are we expecting here?

Sorry, I am a bit confused with calibrating thingys.
I think I am satisfied with my AUO monitor but I am curious of what this post is about.

 

In my case, applying the profile completely eliminated the blue tint the display had, and levelled the other colors, making the picture much softer and warmer, balanced the contrast significantly, made blacks look like blacks as opposed to blueish grays I had before, greatly decreased the "washed up" impression the screen gave, and even somehow improved the angle - so that the top part of the screen does not turn to illegible gray mist whenever I move my head an inch or two.

 

You're correct. A display profile is intended to make those corrections to the video card's LUT by itself. Running the Windows calibration wizard creates its own ICC profile for the display and does not work in conjunction with any other profiles.

This indicates that my AUO panel, and others who are seeing a benefit with the profile I've created, have different display characteristics than yours and others. We've also seen reports from owners who have had more than one AUO panel state that the two looked different out of the box which further supports the fact that these aren't very uniform. Therefore the calibrated profile is making things worse unless your panel matches mine.

If my profile helps reduce the native color cast (mine is extremely blue when uncalibrated) and gives you neutral greys, great! If not then the only thing that you can do is to either use the Windows calibration wizard, the Intel color adjustments, some other 3rd party software calibration utility or have it calibrated with a colorimeter such as I've done with mine. Software calibration or driver color adjustments are never going to be as accurate as a hardware calibration, but they're often good enough to provide a pleasing improvement for most people.

 

Glad it helped! As it so happens I calibrated my panel again yesterday. Generally LCD displays are very stable over time compared to CRTs and it's not necessary to recalibrate nearly as often. I generally calibrate all of my displays at least once a month and until recently the panel on my M11x hasn't changed appreciably. Until the one I did yesterday. That indicates that my panel is slow changing (as expected).

I'll add the new profile to the first post. The differences are minor, but visible. Give each a try to see if one works better for you.

 

Updated ICC profile added to the original post. Calibration was done on my 6 month old AUO panel on 12.31.2010

 

Actually, I misread your question on my previous reply. Step 9 of my ICC configuration procedure is to make sure that the "Use Windows display calibration" option is checked in the Advanced Color Management System Defaults. This forces the profile to be loaded. It doesn't have anything to do with whether or not you've run the Windows Display Color Calibration Wizard. I know it's a bit confusing based on the way they've built the color management interface and how obtuse they were when naming some of the options and settings.

[RANT]Someone needs to have a chat with the geniuses who worked on the color management for Windows 7/Vista. Yes it's a huge improvement over XP in many ways, but it's still overly complicated to setup properly and still falls short of being properly implemented. It's not freaking rocket science![/RANT]

 

Thanks, I didn't know how much of a difference it was going to make

 

Is this considered a form of general degradation over time, or just a drift of the electronics? Say you had a blue shift one month, would it only get worse or possibly revert back an say get a green or red shift?

 

Thanks, Slickie - I compared them side by side - the differences are minor indeed. I'd say that the newer update gives me a slightly crisper image, while the colors are slightly less vibrant. I would spend some more time with both versions to figure out which one to keep.

 

As LCDs age their brightness (the backlight) will decrease relatively slowly but steadily. How quickly depends on the quality of the backlight and is best looked at in terms of the number of hours at a given brightness.

LCDs also have circuitry that controls the panel's gamma curves - this is what determines the shape of the panel's gray-scale and color mixing and what a hard-ware based calibration is good at compensating for. It's my understanding that the chip that controls this will degrade somewhat over time and result in minor shifts that, combined with the degradation of the backlight will cause visible changes to the output.

Having said that, no you shouldn't be seeing significant changes in the color cast that is present in a given panel unless something is very much wrong with the underlying components. That would usually be a very sudden and noticeable shift though. If it has a blue cast out of the box then it will always have that until you calibrate or adjust it by some other means.

 

I'd stick with the first one then.

 

Thanks, so is there one that you know of that's best for R1 with Intel and nVidia GPU's?

 

Not really, lol... you have to calibrate it twice, or use a spectometer and calibrate it twice, since the R1 uses muxer to allow both GPU to directly output to the screen!!

 

Might give this one a try. It would have to have been for the R1, but I didn't read up on it enough to know if he's done it for both the IGP and discreet.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m11x/479312-aw-m11x-monitor-icc-color-profiles-windows-linux.html

 

I just loaded yours and it seems to have improved a bit.

 

Any SEC profiles?!

 

Nope. Once my panel is replaced I'll provide another one for whatever I end up with.

 

Here's to hoping you're monitor craps out real soon.

 

You and me both.

 

wow thank for this bro. +1 rep

 

Just loaded the AUO profile on my R2 (yes I got an AUO screen again...sigh)... but the profile worked wonders. Pulling blue out and a bit of green the screen is as good as it gets. Thanks again Slickie!

 

hi dude, can you do a quick step by step on how to put it back to default so i can change back if i decide i prefer it. Thanks.

 

Just remove the profile from the Color Management control panel.

 

deleted. no need it was answered above sorry

 

Okay - dumb question regarding the R2 - how does one tweak the color when Optimus switches to discrete graphics? The Intel tool I believe changes color for the desktop alone, right? Or does that calibration carry over in some fashion to the Nvidia adapter when in use?

 

With the R2 the Intel IGP handles display duties for both adapters. On the R1 each handles their own output to the display, so in that scenario you'd need to calibrate each. R2 - just the one.

 

Any chance we could have someone post a pic of a calibrated au panel?

 

hmmmm I'm actually starting to like Optimus now....! Thanks!!!

 

That's exactly what it did for me too. And I like it


Okay, now where's the igfxper.exe in MsConfig? I killed the process, where do I disable it in the startup? I don't see it running at all in there, where should I look?

thanks Slick

 

That's exactly what it did for me too. And I like it



thanks Slickie!

 

There's no negative impact in disabling the persistence module.

 

just got my m11x a few hours ago.

I applied this calibration fix and and things are looking much better. Thank you very very much sir.

 

Hi, I hope more knowledgeable people will help me as I don't know what's wrong. I need my colors to be more accurate, I find original colors of my Dell XPS 15 R2 colors to be oversaturated, too much blue and red.

I've tried using this calibrated profile from this post (it appears like spyder2express profile), but it looks to me like for some reason I can't really use it for the Windows 7 itself. In Photoshop the profile seems to change, in Firefox too (since I installed an add-on for color management in it). But I think the color of my taskbar and icons in Win 7 or programs like spyke always stay the same. When I change the clor profile, I can notice it change in Firefox with color management on because orange Firefox menu at the top becomes less "red" and not so vivid, also everything in Firefox appears with different colors (profile is changed). The thing is that the Firefox icon in the taskbar *doesn't* change its color at all when I compare them. Then if I switch color profile to default, the Firefox menu color matches the icon's color again.

How I change the profile. In Windows Color System defaults I choose spyder2express profile (I didn't sopy anything into system folder I just added that profile through "add" dialog in "All profiles" tab), and then checked the "Use Windows Display Calibration" checkbox. I also added the profile in "Profiles associated with this device" in both system and user defaults (for the heck of it) and made it default.

When I load my profile "Profiles associated with this device" the colors of everything change, but it's not giving me the colors I want. Only when doing this and then picking that profile in "Windows Color System defaults" and then restarting, then I get the colors that I like in Photoshop, Bridge and Firefox (with calibration on).

Now I like this color profile, in Firefox it looks great — colors are not that bluish and too much red problem is gettiing fixed, and gray clor is actually gray, not blue like in default profile. But in Windows itself or in Skype it seems like nothing is changed. I get the same oversaturated screaming orange, reds.

I did remove "igfxpers.exe" from startup. I don't know if that even solved anything.

I'm really confused and I really want my Windows to have the same color profile as I have in Firefox and Photoshop. It it possible? What am I missing?

 

I have similar issues.

I have an XPS 15 and Optimus constantly overrides the ICC profile I use. I have NO idea how to stop this.

 

Thanks, slickie! works great

 

so after using this, my screen will become warmer? i always used to cool, but this is better for watcing movie