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    AW Final Fantasy 14 Benchmark Results?

    Discussion in 'Alienware M15x' started by cubankid17, Aug 15, 2010.

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    I'm not worried much as my system fits the recommended settings but the main issue is if it becomes that system hungry, there will not be much point in playing this game as it will be half empty \:
     
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    If that happens, then oh well. Fat luck. I'll just wait for other upcoming MMOs that are much better.
     
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    Guild wars 2 i still play the first one...i miss em
     
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    oh yes, most definitally playabe. ;)

    winner!!

    I hope that's fixed just a bit, it was fun the couple of times, but waiting around and getting ninja'd by the rangers gets old. lol
     
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    I lost all interest in GW, I only played factions though until I reached level 20 and couldn't go beyong that. I just didn't like it for some reason.
     
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    I've played GW for 5 years (quit recently). Was usually in the top 10 GvG mark (top 500 on an off season). I basically quit due to 3 reasons.

    1. I've completed the game 100% with every profession... Stuck to AB after my GvG days were over... Got old somewhat quickly.

    2. Hero's completely ruined the PvE experience (PvP to some extent), and made player to player interaction pointless (why wait an hour for a monk when you could just get your own personal henchman to do it).

    3. Titles destroyed the fun and built the barriers around PvE and PvP... You know what I mean.
     
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    GW2 will hopefully reboot the franchise. Was playing WoW after GW, but WoW requires far too much time to dedicate. LoL each month I'm falling behind in WoW because of new patches and stuff. Though I would still put WoW as THE best MMO to play if you have the time to dedicate.

    With the 30 days plan for FFXIV, I'm hoping this one to be my next hope. It works perfect for me, since I won't lose money for not playing a week or two.
     
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    I'm going to buy a 30 day subscription for the first two months. If I deem it 5 year + worthy, Ill buy a yearly (cheaper) subscription!

    However GW2 will be out by late 2011 so maybe a yearly is best and then leave it at that. I'm glad GW2 will be FTP :D
     
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    BUMP!

    Just letting you FFXIV M15x fanboys (Including myself ;)) That the NDA has been lifted! YouTube now has class videos and other goodies!

    Here my FAVORITE channel! Enjoy!

    YouTube - RocsLock's Channel
     
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    weeeeeeeeeeeee ty brian! <3
     
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    haha, no problem :D
     
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    brian you better play ff14 with me danmit..i preordered CE im so excited by the way thanks rep+ for the vid
     
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    For sure dude. I'll send ya a message when I get it haha. Currently waiting for the server announcements/ where my friends are gonna play.
     
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    damn right...my name will probably be what is now.
    cuban ransom
    ransom
    cuban kid etc
     
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    check out the site pack too, lots of screenshot and icon goodies in there. including my avatar
     
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    Fun update. Open Beta has been announced for early September. :D
     
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    what do you mean open beta?
     
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    guys I want to play ffxiv too? could you teach me how? :D
    where do i get the client? or should i buy a cd for it?
     
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    buy the cd if you pirate a gnome will come choke you..pay square enix...then again the month fee is BS
     
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    The OPEN BETA :D aka the Beta that is open to the public :D Will commense early september... This means possibly between the 1st to the 22nd it will be good to go! They annouced it on twitter.
    http://twitter.com/FF_XIV_EN
     
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    Its as simple as reading the manual once its released and learning in game, remember its not released yet so I don;'t even know how to play it yet. However a Beta client will be available for download soon so hold tight.

    However the offical release date is the 22nd for the CE and the 30th for the SE.
     
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    Taken from FINAL FANTASY XIV (FF_XIV_EN) on Twitter 23.08.2010 10:00GMT :
    I assume that as soon the Open Beta Phase begins, you will be able to create a Square-Enix ID and with that you are free to register for the Open Beta Test at the FFXIV Beta Site: https://dev-eu.ffxiv.com/

    Note that when i applied for Beta, i got an email which let me know that i'm eligible for testing in Beta, so it was automaticly linked within my registred square-enix id, i'm sure i didn't had to use any key or do anything else.
     
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    Monthly fee = Don't go to subway for 1 day.

    i don't mind paying a fee, it keeps moderators available, consistant updates and other goodies that F2P MMo's lack.
     
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    I actually appreciate the monthly fee, and since there are no gamecards like in WOW afaik, with only credit card payment, it'll keep the kiddies off :D I do hope FFXIV will give atleast the same atmosphere to us, as FFXI did, which i really liked for it's people.
     
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    Hopefully they offer yearly subscriptions for like 70-80 bucks... That would be epic. And I agree. FFXI was the most mature/serious MMO I've played in a long time... Not serious in a bad sense, but in a rewarding and personal sense.
     
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    Definitely! But here in europe, they do 1:1 US Dollar - Euro Transaction... And even i have to pay in Euro then i guess, because my country is not in the EU lol

    Maybe i should create an US account and play the game on us server in english, but then i think i have a time displacement problem when i want to play with people from the other continent :D
     
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    what was the last fee-less MMO that wasen't buggy, had any endgame content , recieved expansions, lasted more than 6months or generally was well thought-out? I forget..

    kthxbie.

    considering the exchange rate for the moment, it's really not that much more. 20% overhead for a primarly N/A release sounds decent as far as 'extra costs' go.

    comming from XI to Wow.. I agree.. on more levels than I care to explain. I never understood how Blizzard manages to have a maintiance day every week either. Maintiance days in XI were usually once a month, if you were unlucky. It always ticked me off they charged more per month, but hacked the better half of a week off every month.

    honestly, the days of subscription-less MMO's have been dead for years, there's *tons* of overhead that it takes to keep something like XI running for 8years and still have 1.5 million+ subscribers. Between server time, server upgrades, expansions, bug fixes, staff for moderation, staff for development of expansions and lease time for utilities/buildings, it's pretty expensive to maintain a good MMO. Which is why all the fee-less ones suck. If you want an MMO that still has a large member base but you don't want to pay for upkeep, go play runescape. That's not to say that they don't make tons of profit on subsciptions, but rather at least most of it is being put to good use and you're getting something for your $12.99 a month. That's all you can expect really.

    yeah, they're nice enough to delete all account data (ie characters) for the people that have played the closed beta though. I hope that means any open beta characters will be transferable to subscription based characters.
     
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    Well i know that everything is cheaper in the US, but still, this is on a monthly basis, it just adds up over time. Not that it bothers me, i mean i was able to buy this Laptop just for that game actually, so i can bear with the monthly fees no matter what hehe

    They already did that after Beta2 aswell to be exact, and Beta3 lasted like uh 1.5 weeks now? Got my Gladiator atleast to 12/15 :D And afaik as announced from S-E, you won't be able to transfer any BETA Characters to the final game. I'm sure they want to give everybody the same Start, not that someone has any advantage, which makes sense i guess :)

    PS: Sorry for offtopic and being a m17x user, just wanted to join the discussion about FFXIV :D
     
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    lozz guess what...ready?..are you ready!!???? Guild wars...
    =)
    HA that game was free AND amazing...but you do have a solid point so for that...i thank you
     
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    guild wars isn't a MMO in the traditional sense. It's not nearly bandwith intensive as say XI or Wow, some would argue not nearly as big and instead of subscriptions they relied on expansion income. I'll grant that series is the *one* exception, but I'll say again, they only managed it by cutting and maximising effeciency in areas that other MMO's do not.
     
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    I say we label this thread as FFXIV Discussion offically :p

    So grim how is the gladiator? I usually follow Rocs Lock on youtube, but in all of his videos i've never seen 1 gladiator.

    Also I've kicked my FFXI account back in gear for those "fast" shoes you get when you buy FFXIV with an active FFXI account.... Theres ALOT of area to cover >_<
     
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    I think i'm not such a good gladiator, since i had trouble getting a shield until i had enough gil and was able to buy one in a bazaar. So my shield skill was pretty miserable lol
    I had some fun playing melee abit tho and i got provoke late with lvl10 so i couldn't really test tanking, tho i'm more of a supporter anyway. I think since you can cross abilities widely, i will start with conjurer first, so i always have heal when i go solo :D

    Was Conjurer in beta 2 which i liked alot and Gladiator in Beta3. Wonder what i should do in open beta :)
     
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    I was thinking about going Ranger, Thurm or Conj.... Decisions decisions decisions.

    But Pug also looks like a really fun DD/Tank.
     
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    It's all so tempting, but since you can freely change jobs from lvl1, i hope they keep that (not from lvl10 or such minimum to change), i will try out atleast 1 Mage, 1 DD, 1 Tank, 1 Supporter and like 3 crafting jobs and maybe mining...

    I just want to be able to advance all the time when i login whatever i do, not standing around waiting for party or other events :)
     
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    From what i've seen, crafting takes a ridiculious amount of time to do... Just like in real life :)

    The thing is, from what I've seen. The Thurm is the best support (its def gonna be the healer), Mage is the best MP DD and from what I've seen.... The Archers do CRAZY amounts of damage with one basic arrow (nevermind once you start making special ones)... Pug are basically quick DD and evasion tanks, Glads are gonna def be the Tanks of the game, Marauders.... DD i guess.

    Regardless, when the first expansion is let loose im going Summoner.
     
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    I haven't been able to test crafting yet, would need a guide for that and another one for macros, changing gear and commands for each class...

    Hmm, wasn't Conj the Mage Healer and Thaumaturge the Mage DD/supporter? Just wondering, have only played Thau to like 5 and Conj to 20 which gets Protect and Shell aswell.

    Yeah, it feels kind of home again with the familiar abilites and kinda classes, but still fresh and inovative. Very excited, i hope i can waste my time effectively once again xD
     
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    did you read the fine print? I know it says that if you activate your FFXI account recently prior to trying to link it for the items that it may take a while for the item linkage transfer code to take effect. Didn't say how though though, but hoepfully it's not 30days. Kinda tempted to activate my FFXI account too..the updates though...ugh

    you're backwards, conj is the DD, thaumaturge is like a WHM/RDM hybrid.. It's looking like from what I was reading that subjobs are going to be apart of the game, just not in the sense that we understand them from XI. It specifically said in the aetherite (or however you spell it) toturial stuff that you can use any ability from any job once you have learned it, however it may not be as effective as it would be if you're not in your orginal job.

    ie..
    if you have a 10conj, and a 5 thaumatuge

    fire/bliz ect for the conj, and you *can* use the healing abilities from the thaumatuge to sideheal (which is I think what I was seeing in some of the youtubes with a conj with a heal spell)
     
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    The Conj is basically a BLM, it has a huge mana pool, but burns through it very fast. Thaum has a smaller manapool, but the fact that sets it apart from the Conj is the fact that the Thaum gets absorb spells and Maga regen TP moves, thus making it more suited for healing... At the moment anyways.
     
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    I reactivated it yesterday. By release I should be going into my second billing cycle, thus granting my the items.... I know the Transfer doesnt work on a "free trial" basis.
     
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    Oh see, i didn't even get that far, nor did i notice. Well i noticed that his spells also reduced some elemental affinity (dark/light). So now i know what i'm gonna test in open beta :) But the Conj also got Mana Back with some TP move, tho not much, but you could keep it on a certain level and i never had to go back to aetheryte while leveling outside of leves.

    the only problem i see with this is, the mage actually has to gain tp. And in a party where the mage has to heal/support, i don't think there is time to gain tp for little mana regen by going to attack the monster... I wish there was a /rest command ....
     
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    the thing that's interesting is that you can manualy tweak your attribute points and elemental attunement points. Ie, you can throw all your points in thunder and you'll have better thunder resitance and do more thunder damage. Sounds great right? What if XIV is like XI and Thunder IV does 1000 more damage than Stone IV and your the Conj that picked to atune to stone? lol..

    It looks like you can 'readjust' your points, but not all of them. hopefully you can have a paid service from some NPC to reset it further at least for the elements.
     
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    Correct, tho it's also dependant on which mobs you fight, and you don't know yet which mobs will be weak to a certain elemental. So there is of course a balance you might consider in distributing your points. Also you are always able to reset your points back to a certain value after you have set your points. I think you can reset more from time to time, maybe a complete reset is possible. But i would doubt that you can do this effectively all the time, for all the events you are going to try. :)

    I think i noticed that if you are currently Conj for example, the more unlikely attributes for this class like stamina and strength or agilty, if you raised those previously, they are more likely to be reseted so you can distribute those points to mage stats if you came from a melee class earlier... Anyway the time to reset will always be an influence, i'm sure S-E doesnt want people to change stats all the time and achieve everything in short time...
     
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    right, int, piety and mind is where you want to put it, but you don't want to put *all* of it there, because you need VIT for *some* HP(it says it gives melee def, but I'm guessing it gives some HP too), and if you're soloing, you need *some* STR and DEX for evasion and melee for early on I'm guessing.

    very trixy SE! D=
     
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    That's what i loved about FFXI, you could always look up most things on the internet. But most of the time, there were so many unknown and random variables in the game, that you almost had to have a sixth sense and actually feel with the game to find out things and how they work. That atmosphere, that feeling, good experience :D
     
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    its official we are all playing through together i say so...btw on that selling my ps3 deal my moms says i cant sell it or i get kicked out (even though i paid for it) so i might be a bit late on getting ff14 but danmit i will be there for the release!!!!
     
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    yeah, that's why I left wow, that game is so frecking gear crazy it just gets lame when people *only* want you in 5-6K+ gear, not that I blame them totally, since the way some of the instances are in there you really do need to be extra beefy . In XI as long as you have errant gear you're G2G for almost every instance, and since the economy has come down so much, even weskits and black cloaks were < 30K when I left that. Merits filled in any gaps before they raised the level cap. I'm glad XIV has some basic definitions of what does what, and so far I haven't seen any of the +magic attack power suckage that XI had, it looks like they've replaced it with elemental bonuses, which makes everything a lot more clear and simple. I <3 it.
     
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    I actually only played WoW on private servers, maybe 2 months, and even there people were mad / childish about how to play the game. Only gear gear gear... (No greenies lol) I didn't really understand that mentality. In FFXI, most of the things were comfortable affordable. And most of the time people were complaining about how you lack in gear or you are too weak, was when doing merit leveling and you just started it with merits, and the other guys were already near perfect stats. So, anything beside that, people were more keeping attention on how you actually played (skill, behaviour, whatnot). :)
     
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    honestly, the game is really built like that, the difference between a fresh 80 and a geared 264 80 is night and day, you're talking about doubling or tripling DPS and HP/MP with a properly Geared 80, it was fun at first, but I preferred XI's style of merit points and gear being 'icing on the cake' rather than the whole party. Although I agree, *tons* of exaggeration on how geared you need to be for X fight goes on in there too, which just isn't good either. I left when I started seeing 5K+ GS in trade for Nax...lol.
     
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