AW Final Fantasy 14 Benchmark Results?

I can understand that, that there is such a huge difference in gear, i'm sure it's called righteously Tier-X-armor/weapon and such.

But did you ever got asked or seen someone asking/ laughing at someone, because he had no hauby or scorpion harness? Hence i've seen better people in their AF Armor than people in pimped gear.

 

nope, I'm agreeing with you, like I said, XI's gear was for extra kick in the pants and for showing off (like it should be ) rather than being your whole character, how much damage you do and how much health/mana you have, that gets old after the fourth tier set for the same job. I didn't get into too much dynamsis in XI before I left, but I *do* remember it was *a lot* harder than Wow, and the drops were almost non-existent. There were only a couple of people with Relic armor on the whole server for my job class after years of playing, but a few weeks after the new LK instance in Wow every n00b and their brother was in a 264/271 piece... *and then* they event gave you a 15% damage bonus in those instances, LOL. Why don't they just give you the stuff and be done with it?

 

Exactly, it was also those small improvements that kept us going after new gear, may they be even that small. It was a plus, and a plus is a plus, you can twist it like you want

Dynamis, Sky and ToAU Mission were the most fun. I have to admit i never got to sea, i think i stopped promethia before omega weapon, somewhere.

But Dynamis was big organized chaos lol

 

Been a while since I visited this thread. So what's the low down on FFXIV being able to be played on our M15x's?

 

Its looking VERY good. We're gonna find out for sure in 2 weeks.

 

Yup, it can only get better with new fixes in the game and new Dell Catalyst drivers for our ATI cards later this week, if they can keep their word. And best of all, everyone can test it out for themself when Open Beta hits in the beginning of september.

Edit: Open Beta 3 corrected into just Open Beta, i'm mixing things up today a little, Closed Beta 3 will end on 25th

 

got 3500 on low res on meh alienware

 

Beta 3 is over tomorrow, its already been on for about... 2 weeks? The Open beta will be the next ... err, Beta 4.

 

Don't listen to that silly benchmark. Its very unreliable... I've heard that there making a new benchmark soon.

 

That would be great if they did that, hope they optimized it for ATI cards aswell...

Also:
S-E did one last test today, when you created a new character today (only possible on shadowlord at the moment), they did a stress test for creating chars i guess. Didn't notice it already ended

 

Hmm, do you have a server list? I think I might play on Kefka.

 

Only ingame, i think i was on Ultimecia in Closed Beta 2 and on Jecht in Beta 3.

 

Oh so there named after villans or?

 

Yep, here's an online check of the current servers used, along with ingame time and other info:
FFXIV STATUS BETA!

Aren't those all the final bosses? I count 10 server names + test server.

 

They are indeed. This is very cool!

 

What's new to me is that you're limited to one playable character unless you pay more. This is really weird considering when coming from WoW there's no limit to how many characters or servers you're on.

 

They're about the same really. You get 1 character that can play any job in the game, it's not like wow where 1 character= 1 job.
You also get a retainer, which is just a mule really. Wow limits you to 10 characters per server btw. If you can call 10 characters per server a 'limit'
The only real reason you would want a new character in XIV would be to switch races, because if it's anything like XI, certian races are naturally better at certian jobs. ie Tarutaru's have a lot more base MP and make good casters, galka have a lot of HP and make good tanks..ect. The bonuses don't make or break anything and limit your job selection based on race (because trust me.. I've seen my share of galka BLMs and taru PLD's =.='''). Gear selection becomes more important, but all jobs are perfectly playable and acutally put neat twists in how you have to adapt to play the job. Ie, taru PLD's get to heal more often with a lot of MP which generates more threat.

The only disadvantage XIV has over wow is being able to have multiple characters on multiple servers, although I don't know of anyone that regularly plays on 2 different servers. Let alone 3 or 4..
On the upside, you won't be leveling cooking, repuation and any professions multiple times in XIV, since you'll just be switching jobs instead of characters. Much less time consuming imo. They've even done away with going back to your mog house to switch. It's all a matter of choosing which equipment to put on to change jobs now, very nice.

 

It was already like that with FFXI, also i don't know how you play different jobs on the same character in WOW, hence why you could create more chars on one account without paying more.

In FFXI and FFXIV every character can learn every class and things, you actually don't need another char expect you really have to for reasons i can't think of yet. Also in FFXIV you get one Storage NPC along for free with every character. If you need more storage npcs, you pay 1$ more each.

Edit: Lozz was faster xD

I think that would be possible with another account, where you pay the full monthly fee again.

Yeah it's even encouraged to level all kind of different classes, learn their abilities, change class again, use previously learned abilites with any class, and mix your skills and classes to your likings.

 

when i ran the bench is it windowed or its only me? how to do the settings?

 

Its only windowed, but fact is that if you run something windowed it uses more resources. SO when you run the final game in Fullscreen it will be 2x better!

 

Fun fact! Forget everything you've learned about/ in WoW. It won't help you in Eorzea.

 

yeah, I think I only managed 2K on the benchmark but it runs flawlessly with high detail sans MSAA and the distortion effects @ 1920x1080. Could probally turn some of those on even if I wanted to. You *can* run the game windowed so you can alt+tab out of it if you want. Otherwise it will crash when you alt tab in fullscreen.

 

yeah i though so
would be better on fullscreen

 

Thanks! That clarifies it a lot. I didn't know it functioned like that. Makes sense now.

 

okay, since the beta is out for a few days and I'm borred, I'll bore you with some of the general game mechanics from XI and XIV

you acutally wouldn't want to focus 1 character to 1 job, in XI, you have your main job, and a subjob that can be up to half the level of your mainjob. You can use all the abilities of your subjob (that are acessable at the level it's limitied to when attached to your mainjob) and you get some nice HP/MP/attribute bonuses too. Past level 20, you'd be hard pressed to find a party without a subjob. That's to say, if you levled your BLM to 75 and your WHM to 75, but wanted to be a BLM/WHM, the BLM would be level 75, and the WHM level 37, then to change your main/sub you'd have to go back to your moghouse. XIV is similar, but instead of main jobs and subjobs, they're all the same(SE referres them to be more like a skill). You equip a staff, and become a conjurer, but if your tharutamage (or however you spell it..) is leveled too, you can use all the abilities it has (presumably without the level limit that XI had, where you could only use Shell II because your sub was level 37, even if you had Shell IV on your WHM) with reduced effect unless the abiltiy you're using is from the main class you're equipped to. So you can use Cure on your conjurer (the BLM equivilent) because you know it on your tharu(the WHM equivilent) it just won't work as well because you're currently a Conj. XIV also has a 'physical' level, which is there to determine base HP/MP and attributes. The 'classes' are there to provide spells/abilities. They made XIV a bit more different from XI and wow by making it like FF13 too. In XI and Wow, you can cast any spell at any time from your entire library. In XIV, you have a finite amount of 'action points' that you fill with spells and abilities. So..we'll say you have 6 action points, to use fire, you have to equip it to your action bar and that uses 3 points, to use thunder you have to equip it to your action bar and that uses 3 points as well. After 2 spells your action bar is full, so until you change it (I didn't try it but I would assume you can't change during combat) those are the only two spells you can cast. Even though right now you start the game with 5-6 spells in your library.

 

I just was googling abit about new info on Catalyst 10.8, and found this small Info from a user on twitter:

In ATI Catalyst 10.8, there will be Crossfire functionality for Final Fantasy XIV

Sounds like ATI and S-E are working together to get the game running as we all expect.

 

yeah, as eyecandy as the game is for an MMO, I can't imagine it *not* working with crossfire and SLI. That would be a disaster. They even made sure with nvidia that the game works in 3D didn't they?

 

have you ever tried an mmo in 3d?
tried it in WoW and trust me, the cursor is weird man! makes me feel all trippy! if you have the 2d surface mouse it's hard to click things in the background since the depth doesn't feel quite right. but if you have the 3d mouse (moves back with the ground so to speak) when you mouse over a button or window the mouse *pops* back up into the foreground.

but about the sli/crossfire, yeah i'd be really suprised if they let that slip past retail. sooo tempted to try out this game, but cata is calling....

 

Sure i have seen the tech demo showing 3d and multiple display support for nvidia cards, tho dont know if that is just for desktops.

Also about cursors and mouse, ffxiv is optimized to be played with a gamepad.

 

no I haven't tried anything 3d.. I can't imagine I will, the whole idea seems like a fad that I'm not willing to jump on.

 

I've seen that the Beta still is running and will end on August 26. 0:00 GMT, which should be in around 8 hours. If everything goes well, i can still test the latest ati drivers and see if it runs smoother, that is if official catalyst 10.8 gets released in the next few hours.

 

3D was over before it began.

 

Wooo!

/10char

 

they were supposed to be released yesterday.
ATI Catalyst 10.8 Video Card Drivers Coming This Afternoon - Legit Reviews

 

Actually Terry Makedon aka CatalystMaker on Twitter announced it a week ago for mid next week, so this week now, and he also mentioned later that it will be wednesday, so today. By the way, just installed 10.8 and the corresponding 10.8 profiles, will run Benchmark first and after i look if there is an improvement in the Beta

Edit: just tried it, doesn't seem to activate the second gpu, stays on 150/300 clock speeds, while the first card does. On FFXIV Benchmark.

 

cossfire has to be forced to work in window'd mode afaik.

 

Well, it is actually noted in the release notes that the FFXIV Benchmark now is supported with CrossFire Profile. So, how do i force that exactly? I thought they would be automaticly applied. The only tool i have is RadeonPro, but that's 3rd Party, and shouldn't count as fair use.

Looks like someone else is having the same issue on official ati forums:
ATI CrossFireX Application Profiles 10.8

 

I would try to rename the XIV benchmark .exe to something like crysis or some other game that is known to work in CF in windowed mode.

 

Interesting news.

Komoto's Official Explanation on Surplus Points :: Final Fantasy XIV (FFXIV) :: ZAM

 

wow, just, wow.

This is what gets me confused

he talks about diminishing exp rates when you focus on a single class for too long, and that to circumvent this you should try a different class, but then he says the above, that playing a different class will not mitigate declining experience points? Does it allow you to keep leveling or not by switching classes?

edit: I get it now, he's suggesting when you start seeing surplus points, that are essentially being wasted, you should switching to a new class so you're not wasting those points, but you're still going to be getting fewer points.

 

so i wanted to try a few beta keys is there anyway i can get the ff14 beta download??

 

ok nevermind =) i shall report back on none of my findings because of NDA......
also if i think what im doing works....ahhhhhh its gonna be amazing

 

nevermind...danm client...

 

Cubankid the beta is over.... Also the NDA has been over for about a month.

The open beta (for all of us) is released early september.

 

Heres the uber basic version.

You can lvl your "main" class for 8 hours. After the 8 hours, your XP reaches zero.

SO

you switch to your other class/job and lvl it for 4-8 hours.

After a brief time your "main" class can regain its 100% xp gain and you can continue leveling it.

Once that class reaches 15 hours for the week it becomes "un levelable"

So keep switching up your classes.

 

yea i know. well i guess ill see everyone in beta then the 22nd release. =) this is going to be fun also google chrome is so much better than IE8

 

Firefox 4 beta > Google Chrome.

 

Taken from FFXIV Beta Page:

Players will be able to transfer their open beta test character names to the official release. (Note: Does this only concern the name itself or the full developed char from beta?)

Cheers!

PS: I like that philosopy about diminishing exp on a single job, it encourages people to level all kind of stuff and mix abilites and whatnot. Very clever.

PS2: As soon Open beta hits, you should be able to create a Square-Enix ID, maybe register for a key (in closed beta you just needed the id and got a mail that told you you were in beta), download the Beta Client, install, play.

 

wooot!!!

that's sort of what I thought it was going to be. At first I thought it was going to be a load of poop, but since all the professions are 'classes' it shouldn't be so bad, if you wanted to be a conj, you'd want to level; conj, thautamage,cooking,weaver, and maybe alchemy. Plenty of level room for the week vacation I have on release week lol. As I understand it though, you don't just 'stop' getting exp, it gradually reduces, which sounds like it's the stinky part since you're essentally wasting exp if you decide to milk that level for all 8 hours. Unless of course they find a use for the surplus exp.

 

I wouldn't worry about content and getting bored so fast. Also i don't think i want to level all the time. Sometimes i just want to stay where i am and go out into the wild or anywhere else, just exploring new things and mechanics, until iget used to locations, monsters and other things that could be important.
Can't wait to test again, and i'm still positive that this game will run quite well on any alienware laptop (hmm exclude m11x ) running with ati cards