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    It's late, I've got assignments and then a BSOD!

    Discussion in 'Alienware M15x' started by T-ravisty, Apr 15, 2012.

  1. T-ravisty

    T-ravisty Notebook Consultant

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    So, as it says, I got a BSOD... Yes, that's right, another noob asking a noob question who has NFI about what's going wrong... -.-" But it's 2AM and I just wanna. Get. This. Assignment. Done! *hits head against wall* 2000 pictures rotoscoped animation...

    I was doing some work in Flash while watching stuff on YouTube, and then BAM... BSOD.

    The error is IQRL_DRIVER_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
    mfefirek.sys

    Something to do with McAffee... I should get rid of it and go for a new AV, so what's good on the market for AV?

    Anyway, is it just McAffee buggering it up, or something else? I believe I have had issues with McAffee spiking causing weird audio problems, I had a thread about it a while and it was believed that was the perp.

    I've attached the .dmp files... I took a peek at it with BlueScreenView and did some Googling, but I'm not too atuned to bugcodes...

    Just wanna keep working on my assignments with no further hassles.

    Not sure to thread it here, but mods, feel free to move if deemed necessary, and thanks if you do as it may mean more hits and a quicker resolve.

    Cheers all.
     

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  2. cnduffey

    cnduffey Notebook Guru

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    I use AVG and have had zero issues with it.
     
  3. otosan

    otosan Notebook Consultant

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    McAffee is one of the worst choice after all... ;p,

    i used to use AVIRA and it's good, now i use Kaspersky also without any hassle...

    about IRQL_DRIVER_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

    this BSOD norally happen to me when i overclocked my M15x with un-matched setting, like multiplier too big, or FSB not stable...,

    u didn't do any of it don't u?
     
  4. ElectricTurtle

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    I'm not sure but this has been happening for a while, both Nvidia and Ati have this problem so you're not the only one experiencing this. It just happens randomly. 3 months ago I also had this problem and it just happened yesterday. Updating your driver might help a little but the problem still persists anyway. So if I were u I'd save my work every 1 hour or so :D. Although it's not happening that often but it's better to be prepared imo.
    I don't think Mcafee has anything to do with this but it's not a good AV anyway XD.
     
  5. T-ravisty

    T-ravisty Notebook Consultant

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    Only reason I have McAffee is because it came bundled...

    No, I wasn't Overclocking. I had IRQL_DRIVER_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL on my HP DV6 before i became bricked... :S The DV6 just randomly goes into recovery mode at times... I don't use it anymore... Hope this isn't going down the same path.

    Which drivers are you talking about?
    The 5850 graphics cards is up to date...

    Yeah, I'm pedantic about saving... I do it like every 10 mins... lol. It's a lesson learnt using the imacs at uni, using Maya or After Effects on them is a NIGHTMARE! They crash basically every 15 - 30mins without fail so you have to reboot... -.-"
    I lost like over an hours work once... So annoying...
     
  6. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    I use McAfee and have no complaints about it. Doesn't bog down my system or anything either.

    I've seen that error when it comes to CPU stability though.
     
  7. T-ravisty

    T-ravisty Notebook Consultant

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    Ah, bugger... It better not be CPU stability, I don't want the system to crash as a whole. Are there any further tests that I can run to check this out further?
     
  8. King of Interns

    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

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    For starters get rid of McAffee like others have suggested. The reason it gets bundled is because it is cheap and nasty.

    I also use AVG internet security with no problems. It is slightly more resource consuming than some others because it uses multiple cores when scanning but in a laptop like this shouldn't be a problem. BitDefender is also good.
     
  9. T-ravisty

    T-ravisty Notebook Consultant

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    Ah cool cool.

    Do you know what the BSOD was about by any chancce?
     
  10. otosan

    otosan Notebook Consultant

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    i would agree that it also related to CPU stability...

    if your assignment is utilize 4 core or a lot of threads, it probably the culprit..., but by saying it means your cpu IS the culprit...
     
  11. T-ravisty

    T-ravisty Notebook Consultant

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    Bugger, so what can I do to test it for errors and try and resolve it?
     
  12. otosan

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    u can try run prime to check your CPU on full load, whether the BSOD happen as well or not...
     
  13. King of Interns

    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

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    Hmm the next question to ask would be have you checked your CPU temps? Please do so and report back to us with the results when you do your work.

    If temps are high then your problem is simply that your fans and heatsinks need a good clean then repaste the cpu. This might very well eliminate your problem.
     
  14. T-ravisty

    T-ravisty Notebook Consultant

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    Ah nice, I'll run that over the weekend. How long does the stress test take?

    My temps are usually between 60 - 90 Degrees Celsius.

    I mainly do work in Maya 2012, After Effects CS5, Flash CS5, Photoshop CS5, Painter 12, Boujou 5.
    When I encountered this BSOD I was just working in Flash and had been so for about 5 hours non-stop.

    I game every-now and then, but not so often as assignments are kinda taking preference...
     
  15. otosan

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    60 for stock clock speed are higher than usual..., my 920XM is around 50 - 80 with lowest multiplier on 23 and highest on 27, so i think your one should be lower as well...
     
  16. T-ravisty

    T-ravisty Notebook Consultant

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    Could you please explain the multiplier stuff?
    I'm a bit of a layman here....

    I get 53 at the moment with just Firefox and VLC.
    Comps been on for 3 hours.

    So it's overheating basically?
     
  17. otosan

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    well, on extreme model processor like 920 and 940xm, user can adjust their CPU multiplier as it was unlocked,

    normally we use throttlestop to do this..

    basic multiplier for 920XM is 15 which means 15*133Mhz = 1995Mhz (2Ghz - this is stock clock speed) and on turbo it will run up to 24*133 = 3.2 Ghz (and this 24 multiplier only happen when cpu load is on single core, we call it as turbo boost, i'm pretty sure u know this)

    now in my notebook, my lowest multiplier is 23 and the highest is 27, mean when utilize 4 (all) core, it will running on 3Ghz instead of the standard 2Ghz, and when it only utilize single core, it can run up to 3.6Ghz instead of 3.2Ghz..

    this is practically an overclocking, by increasing the multiplier instead of front side bus frequency..

    your cpu is 740QM, and you didn't do any overclocking, so i'm in an assumption that it suppose run much cooler than mine... although 60 is consider not that high.

    i used to use 720QM which idle (firefox usage & torrent only) on 45 degree, i believe 740QM shouldn't be that far..

    u can try run your adobe flash or any app that u normally use for assignment and see the temp...
     
  18. Hobgoblinpie

    Hobgoblinpie Notebook Evangelist

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    The clock multiplier basically decides how much processing power a core has. The base (external clock) rate is something like 133mhz, and the multiplier will multiply that, to give you the speed of a core.

    e.g. 133MHz x 23 = 3059MHz = 3GHz, 133MHz x 27 = 3591MHz = 3.6GHz.

    EDIT: Got beaten to it!
     
  19. T-ravisty

    T-ravisty Notebook Consultant

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    Ah okay, I understand. Thanks. :)

    Okay, I'm getting about 60 when running Flash and VLC.

    76 when rendering with Maya, CPU 100% on all 8 cores stock-clocks.
     
  20. otosan

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    Now that's a good temp i think.. so that's not the problem...

    is the BSOD still happen? have u uninstall your McAffee?
     
  21. T-ravisty

    T-ravisty Notebook Consultant

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    No, I haven't had the BSOD again.

    And I haven't uninstalled McAffee.

    Which version of AVG do you all reccomend?
     
  22. NoMyNaMe

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    Hi all, just to put more spices on this thread... I am suffering from several BSODs. One already mentioned, the IRQL_DRIVER_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL associated to the ndis.sys (network driver for those unaware of it).

    This one, despite of many tries with different stock versions of the Ethernet driver or those from Intel, the BSOD "randomly happens". I have not found any confirmed pattern yet to it, but it seems to happen mostly at work and while connected to my working desktop using RDP, but this is just a hunch. FYI. I use MS Essentials as AV and Agnitum Outpost as FW.

    The second-one is completely fatal and it is associated to my new Seagate Momentus XT 750Gb HDD with 8Gb of cache. I bought it to update my system.

    There are forums entries talking about BSOD on Hybrid HDDs and SSDs at the time when Windows needs to access certain files but the drive does not "answer", so the OS halts on blue screen with no chance to have a dump because it cannot read or write to the disk.

    Some days ago I found a forum entry suggesting to disable the cache by going to Device Manager -> Properties of the Drive -> Policies and then disable all options. I did it... for the moment no BSOD... but I cannot sign with blood on this, I need to wait longer to be sure about it.

    Let's see where these two burdens will take me.