need some advice

Here's my score with 3DMark Vantage with stock settings on the CPU and the GPU at 775/1125. The next score is with GPU at same settings but CPU at 26,26,26,26 and 85/73. I have 3 other benchmark tools,Dacris,Passmark and a freebie NovaBench. Using those 3 tools with the CPU tweaked, I get great scores. Seems like with 3DMark Vantage and 3DMark 11. T.S. is lowering cpu performance. I have tried numerous different ThrottleStop settings. I would appreciate any advice you might offer. Thanks

 

Have you checked clock and chip mod? Seems strange that the CPU is doing that...

 

Yes I have those checked as well as "set multiplier". I don't check power saver as it drastically lowers performance

 

Uncheck C1E and Click the C6 button untill it shows MAX.

 

That really seems strange. I have the same processor, but with a much slower video card. With settings of 90/80, I can run 27,27,27,27 with temp max about 90 - this gives a 3dMark Vantage CPU score over 20,000. I would suggest trying the TS bench 32M to see if the cores all accelerate to 26. If so, they try turning on TS log and run 3Dmark Vantage. Then check the log file in the TS directory and you may be able to see what is happening.

Good luck,

Joe

 

Ok heres my 3DMark Vantage score with the settings widezu69 suggested. Also I ran Passmark without T.S.(#2) and the 1st one with T.S. Passmarks cpu rating for a 940XM is 4522

 

When you run the TS Bench, do all of the cores come up to 26? If not, it may be the 85/73 that is limiting you.

It seems unlikely that this could be an interaction with the graphics card, since Passmark is a pure CPU test.

Joe

 

There's something peculiar going on with Vantage and T-Stop, using more core power and running slower or crashing at high limit settings. Use TS to set multipliers to 24x and TDP to 92/78 and then turn TS off (monitoring only) and rerun and log. If all goes well, ease up to 25x, then 26x until you encounter throttling.

Having no problems with 3dMark11. Are you using Futuremark Systeminfo 4.0? If not, update that.

 

Interesting - I first downloaded Vantage a couple of days ago - it crashed on its first run, even though 3DMark 06 has always been fine. I didn't run it again until last eveng - which was after I downloaded a Windows update for C++ redistributable 9 the update site said it was a security update). Vantage ran fine last night - with 27,27,27,27, and 90/80, I got a CPU result over 20,000. TS was running at the time. Will check again tonight when I get home to my laptop.

Joe

 

3dMark11 and 3dMark06 are both working normally for me, but Vantage has very recently started regularly crashing at 26x with TS enabled or with TS turned off, I get throttling (mostly thermal throttling usually beginning at or around 85C or sometimes 90C) that results in reduced scores, though nothing as drastic as USMC362 reports. The CPU is also using more power at a given multiplier level than it normally does. I uninstalled the Stardocks MyColors service (Breed theme) which seemed to improve things some, reinstalled the chipset driver and the Cat 11.5 WHLQ drivers (backed down from the 11.5a Hotfix set) and will once again reinstall Vantage. My issue is Vantage specific, making the CPU use more power and run hotter. Gotta be a conflict somewhere unique to Vantage, but it isn't jumping out at me. Driving me nuts.

Joe, you're not really running at 27x with TDP set at 90/80. Check the TS log and you'll probably see the CPU running at about 25x, which is consistent with a CPU score of ~20,000. You'll need to give that 940m more power to get it up to 27x. I think Inap used to have to go to 100-105W to get 27x and you'll get a lot of BSOD up there. Go slowly; raising TDP not more than 5W at a time if you really want to test the limits.

 

So I ran 3DMark Vantage at 26 across the board and 85/73 TDP. I had log file checked but after I ran Vantage there wasn't anything in the log file. like I was saying in my 1st post,I get great scores with my other benchmarking software using T.S. If you Google "passmark cpu benchmarks" you'll see that an i7-940XM is rated at 4522Points. I get over 5000 without T.S. and with it once I got over 6000. I get decent scores with PCMark Vantage and their new one PCMark 7(for Windows 7 only) I'm not gonna worry about it guess I'll just enjoy my AW.

 

uninstall vantage then redownload it and install again.

 

Inap, what TDP settings did you need to get true 27x in Vantage with Old Yeller?

 

Thanks for the advice, Rev, I'll check it out when I get home. I remember that the short term TS Bench (32M) ran at 27x, but that's only for a fairly short time. You make a good point about processor power. I may not be as limited for overall power as some, because of my 260m graphic card, but the processor could still need more juice. Will test (gently) and see what happens.

Joe

 

for me with the older ts version i had to go 105/95 for it to stick at 27x.

 

I ran Passmark again at 27,27,27,27, 90/80

 

I'll just say this one last thing, my friend. Setting and running are two different things; TDP serves the same purpose as a governor or speed limiter. If the stock rating for a 940xm (18x - 4 cores) is about 4500 points, then an o/c'ed 940xm at 27x would score about 6750 points. The real point is that the 920/940xm's are so powerful that you don't need 27x. but if it makes you feel better to have your settings at 27x with 90/80 TDP, more power to you.

 

So my friend what settings do you recommend?

 

I don't recommend. I use 27-26-22-22 at 75/65 for everyday use, but it is a purely individual call based on your uses and preferences. All I'm saying is understand how it all works and fits together so that you can make it do whatever you want in the particular situation. If you really want 27x across the board, you're probably going to need 105W/90A to get it, but walk the TDP settings up slowly to that level. Do not be surprised by increased heat and/or crashing under full load as you find the limits for your CPU. Or, just enjoy what you've got, which is a lot.

 

Thank you my friend

 

You are absolutely correct. While I am interested in learning if I could really run at 27x for a benchmark, none of the software I use would significantly benefit from pushing the CPU that hard (not even multithreaded photo or video editing software) as opposed to the more reasonable setting you use.

+rep for providing lots of good balanced advice.

Joe

 

I'm making some headway, but realized one of my cores (sometimes two) are running hotter than normal and hotter than the others, so it looks like my thermal paste is failing. So I need a repaste before pushing it harder. But purely as a frame of reference, here is a Vantage run made a few minutes ago with a limping 920xm at 25x (true 25x). You will have greater headroom with a well functioning 940xm, but you don't need the full 27x to get pretty decent performance.

Result

 

Thanks! You've convinced me. I'll let you know what I find.

Joe

 

another thing is for true 27x, you'll prolly need some additional cooling since you temps would be crazy high that would trigger thermal throttling.