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    [-OFFICIAL-] Alienware M17x Owners' Lounge

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by whizzo, May 29, 2009.

  1. Quicklite

    Quicklite Notebook Deity

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    I'm kind of curious, as for whether any M17x owners are going to get the refreshed version?
     
  2. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    Yeah but the with the current speed which we keep releasing new top GPU's it is almost pointless to buy 2 gpu's if you can keep upgrading (hopefully MXM 3.0 slot) Besides just bragging right and benchmarks it would always be overkill to have 2 of the GPU's when you can for the same price just upgrade to the next best in the future... and save battery, power consumption and still have great performance.
     
  3. Scytus

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    ill stop xD

    sorry was just trying....express myself...


    ...though I have been called annoying before
     
  4. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    BTW let's say I want to save money and install one GTX 280m and the X9300 mobile processor myself... where do I buy these parts from or Do I have to buy through Alienware or Sager?
     
  5. Clauss

    Clauss Notebook Unboxer

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    OCing a 8600 with 2.26 Ghz, how much more can you get out of it OCing? like...4?
     
  6. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    Moo you are just as annoying my friend, so don't be a hypocrite
     
  7. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    i agree. getting two GTX 280Ms in SLI now is overkill, wasting money. a single GTX 280M now is more than enough, and you can use the money to upgrade to the GTX 380M in a year or so :)
     
  8. The_Moo™

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    i proably will hit 3 ghz or maybe 2.7-2.8 ghz's

    proably will stop at 2.7, depending on the chip and voltage :)

    cpu's and gpu's can be bought off ebay

    GPU's would be better from rjtech or eurocom(overpriced)

    cpu can be found just about any where actually but the GPU's are the hard ones to find.
     
  9. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    calm down, kids.

    never. if you can OC the P8600 at all, maybe 2.5-2.7Ghz. you won't get close to 4Ghz, not even the X9100 can do that (and that one starts at 3.06Ghz).
     
  10. Clauss

    Clauss Notebook Unboxer

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    wow, that's impressive. So it would be fruitless to upgrade hypothetically to a T9550, because you can OC it higher than that...though then i could OC my T9550. So basically..with the minimum processor i would be perfectly fine to run any game i would want with it OCed in the fashion you are hypothetically will be doing.

    Sorry whizzo, i meant tha period to be .4 so it would be 2.26+.4 Ghz
     
  11. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    i oc'd my t9400 to 3.08 ghz

    i just dont need a super CPU i just play games :) ;)

    as of right now we do not know if Setfsb will work with this system. The chipset may work or may not. I will try very hard to find the PLL so that we can OC. I have no idea how late my system will be backed up due to the high amount of orders that will be placed. i wont be ordering the day it comes out... if my system sells i will though
     
  12. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    probably. it could also be that you get a BSOD when OCing to 2.27Ghz (from 2.26). it's impossible to say.
     
  13. The_Moo™

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    yup Whizzo is right its all speculation at this moment but i know the CPU will have some voltage :) to play with
     
  14. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    i got the qx9300 to 3.2 pthers have gotten higher some lower. so i guess it depends onthe voltage and cooling.
     
  15. Krane

    Krane Notebook Prophet

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    Being an educated consumer is hardly "trolling." In any event, I like to know my money's well spend; and not all of us are overwhelmed solely by the glitz.

    At least you didn't miss the question. However, if I'm not mistaken, I do believe Mac pioneered the aluminum chassis?
     
  16. Clauss

    Clauss Notebook Unboxer

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    I will most likely be ordering the day it comes out, maybe like 5 mins after it opens in all seriousness. Would like to be first to order. Max on budget is 2500ish so hopefully the prices whizzo assumed/suggested are correct. I can get it for 2510 with tax/shipping+university discount.
     
  17. The_Moo™

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    cooling is fine but the chipset and voltage is unsure.

    That was also a bios oC ... Setfsb won't OC .8-9 ghz (i have never seen it but i could be wrong)



    @ kane i said that because you were like " O its nothing new"

    its a completely new notebook and a world first
     
  18. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    no guarantees there - knowing AW, some prices (especially for the GPUs) could be higher. the CPUs i listed might not be the final list either, so try to stay flexible. :)
     
  19. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    what are the chances of 280m gtx sli everything stock to the lowest and 1920*1200 at max of 2,500???????? i can't break that either.
     
  20. fxny12004

    fxny12004 Notebook Geek

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    How heavy is the old m17x? This new one is HEAVY from what i can tell, and 11 pounds isnt an EZ lug around as i expected. Im really into a 15 inch gaming lappy, but since the 15x is a huge piece of cheap plastic, i could not make the investment. Do you guys think that with the ALL powerfull lineup there will be a 15 inch laptop? Probably not now come june 2nd, but i mean in the near future and of the same build as the new lappy?
     
  21. The_Moo™

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    very little maybe 280 SLI

    i would be very surprised though




    I think a m15x all powerful version is on the way and due out around the back to school sale shopping
     
  22. Quicklite

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    precisely zero.
     
  24. Clauss

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    Yeah...A stock 260GTX i doubt would be suitable. If i went that low on the grahpic card list (on notebookcheck) i could just get a maxed out m17 and the 3870s would outperform the 260GTX single. Correct or no?
    And Don, my opinion with resolution and those cards..i bet 2800. Just my idea, hence why i am going to try to get one 280 GTX and the 2nd cheapest processor with higher resolution.
     
  25. Phinagle

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    I'm expecting $2800-3000. Also since it's AW you're paying tax so account for that.
     
  26. The_Moo™

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    280m gtx and 1900 res max
     
  27. The_Moo™

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    3870's out perform a 260 and 280 :)
     
  28. AC/ No DC

    AC/ No DC Notebook Consultant

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    I don't think having a 280M SLi would be overkill. This notebook is supposed to be overkill otherwise you may as well go for a NP5797 that is lighter and has the same specs (except without all the bells and whistle but it has a lower price). It's like having the basic model Ford Mustang, it's got bark (looks) but no bite (V6 210 HP).
     
  29. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    What about 3870x2 vs 260M SLI?

    I actually haven't looked into that match up yet.
     
  31. Morgotth

    Morgotth Notebook Evangelist

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    Dual 3870's maybe, but sli 280's will beat crossfire 3870's.
     
  32. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    to use a motor analogy, SLI'd GTX 280Ms are a quad-turbocharged W16. it just doesn't get any better. a single GTX 280M i still a turbocharged V8 - more than enough "bite" to back up the "bark".
     
  33. The_Moo™

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    well duh ;)

    3870's in xfire beat single 280 and 260

    @phinagle


    their are no SLI 260's out
     
  34. Clauss

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    wait would you all agree that a 280GTX single would be outperformed by 3870s in crossfire? to me that's surprising. Though they are 2 cards.
     
  35. Quicklite

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    Does the stock 260m option come with 9400m?
     
  36. whizzo

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    depends on the game - a single GTX 280M would still max almost any game out there (except for Crysis and GTA IV).
     
  37. whizzo

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    they all do.
     
  38. Morgotth

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    With the right drivers a single 280m GTX could probably beat crossfire 3870's.
     
  39. AC/ No DC

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    Bugatti Veyron, I see you know your cars :cool:
     
  40. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    can ya help me out here?
    most would agree that a xfire config would beat a single gpu...no?

    so i am at a loss as to why this was even a point to make?
     
  41. The_Moo™

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    the 9400 is built into the Notebook lol


    @clauss it been beaten in 3dmark 06 and games
    Crysis was a un fair competition

    @ryuin
    some one thought it didnt
     
  42. Phinagle

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    9400M is the chipset. You can't get the notebook without it. ;]
     
  43. Clauss

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    Well personally, I don't care if one is better when comparing Nvidia vs ATi. when ATI are geared towards benchmarking. So those numbers are irrelevant in the comparison. So its ABOUT even in real gaming, or am i totally off base. (still talkinbg about 280GTX single vs 3870s xfire)

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Graphic-Cards.130.0.html
    The only reason i say this, comparison wise the 280 GTX single is ranked above?
     
  44. Scytus

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    what about 4870 crossfire vs 280m SLI?
     
  45. whizzo

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    Top Gear has taught me well.

    @Phinagle: the chipset is probably an Intel® PM45 + ICH9M-E Chipset, or a variant/upgrade thereof. the 9400M is in fact a separate Nvidia GPU, probably soldered onto the mobo, and can by activated via HybridPower to save power and increase battery life.
     
  46. whizzo

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    many sources seem to indicate that while ATI cards get good benchmark scores, Nvidia cards perform better in games, yes.
     
  47. The_Moo™

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    notebookcheck sucks :)

    we have proven in games that xfire 3870's beat a 280m gtx
     
  48. Quicklite

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    That's pretty much comparing OC'd 9800m GTX sli with 3870 CF; imo the former might get the upper hand in games. :confused:
     
  49. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    we all know that ati performs better in benches. and that nVidia is the hands down winner in real time game apps.

    besides, in my opinion, 3dmark has been outdated and no longer should be used unless your eepeene needs to be stroked.

    dont get me wrong, i like the fact that you can run the benches and tweek to get higher numbers, but other then that, i am seeking real life, in game, benches...not static
     
  50. Phinagle

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    A single GTX 280M isn't maxing out games without dropping the resolution and details. The games are very playable but they're not hitting the 60FPS mark at max settings like dual cards do.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=4725681&postcount=1
     
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