[A Message From Frank Azor] - Leaving Alienware?

Would be interesting to see a RX 5700 + Ryzen 3900X refresh of that Helios

 

That's exactly the system I want, but the 3700x would suffice. They would have to consider their market after all and keep the prices down to drum up more PR.

 

Azor joined AMD today as the company's Chief Architect of Gaming Solutions.

From the link below... Welcome Frank!!" Azor is an end-product (solution) architect .

Frank Azor, Alienware Co-Founder, Joins AMD as Chief Architect of Gaming Solutions Techpowerup.com | July 15, 2019

 

Either AMD are planning to enter gaming systems manufacturing business or the role seems pretty meaningless?

 

+1 I think it's mobile gaming related.

 

lets just hope he does marketing real well and brain wash some amd fanbois so we can see more amd offering in laptops. going 16 cores AMD laptops would pressure oems to go that route and it is always a good thing.

 

Maybe they will actually do something meaningful, like adhere to MXM standards and not produce proprietary filth or crippled mobile junk like Max-Q rubbish. (Probably not, but it's a nice thought about what could be if they actually cared enough to do the right thing.)

 

BGA will be more nowadays. Since People are getting intelligent and rarely upgrade their MXM card frequently nvidia sales will hurt, so making BGAs does mean you'll have more sales figure and Max Money as profit.

 

Yes and No... if a person can't upgrade a laptop they have to sell it used. And, that increases the used laptop supply greatly. That's adding competition to the market that the new laptop sellers can't match price / performance.

Making owners sell on and buy new each generation actually might work against the new laptop makers.

Just like Nvidia / AMD get stung by the used market when compared against new products, with the used market making much more sense in value for most people.

 

You do have the odd case of the helios 500 where I would buy in a hot second if I knew I could put a 3700x in it.

It is admittedly an outlier scenario but considering the scenario within the context of the total options available its basically 1 of 2 so (I feel) its worth mentioning.

 

Or, it can also mean that they sell nothing whatsoever because the smartest people that used to spend the most for awesome laptops, and then spend more later to upgrade them, will simply switch back to desktops and say to hell with crazy expensive crippled laptop BGA feces and won't buy anything but super inexpensive laptops going forward (like me). If the only option left is BGA filth, the only kind worth buying is going to be the extra cheap junk so I can toss it into a dumpster when it croaks.

 

It was on amazon for $1,299

If it was refreshed with 3000 series and RX 5700 XT I would probably get one too.

 

We can hope bro !!

 

The sad thing is, the only products actually worth purchasing today are those viewed as outlier scenarios and niche products. Everything mainstream is utter garbage that never should have been brought to market in the first place, LOL.

 

That does tend to ring true more so these days. Especially for people that look at their systems as nothing but a foundation to build upon. Where as OEMs would prefer you to have enforceable templates with limited life spans.

 

Sad to see Azor's departure from a previously superb company. My feeling is that AW will move away from a visionary design driven company into a corporate one motivated by profit margins.

 

Already done several years ago. Nothing left. It’s DELL now. Just look at what’s happened last +4 years.

 

The golden age of AW is over, it started years before but Azor leaving is symbolic of the decline.

What's left though? We lost BGA CPUs and MXM GPUs when the R series came out. At least the R series had beefy cooling, decent keyboards, and good build quality. All standard.

I haven't read up on the new AW models. Anybody know if good cooling and build quality is completely niche now?

 

It ended around 2011. While it may be symbolic to some extent, it is no great loss. It might even mark a favorable new beginning if his replacement is more old-school in his thought processes and empowered to do the right thing. If his replacement is a turdbook-loving yuppie muppet/puppet, it won't matter and nothing will improve.

Crippled RAM speeds, goofy throttling issues, cancerous firmware, stunted power-handling capabilities, sketchy/buggy Windows software and failure prone fire starters. But, extremely nice chassis build quality, very expensive, and some view them as being aesthetically pleasing. So, pretty much status quo other than the Area 51M not being a BGA turdbook.

 

Read this.... Soldered ram wasn’t enough http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/bga-venting-thread.798775/page-225#post-10922543

Search also TRIPOD in the search box you see on top of the page. I’m sure you’ll find a lot about last years Alienware’s. Really Disgusting. One start http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...50h-coffee-lake.810891/page-118#post-10835665

Azor has preferred working more with the XPS line the last years. But this Dell model is also a fiasco as the Alienware’s. Everything he has been the boss for the last years is awful reading.

 

Hi Bro, the XOC bin file did not show in the bios. It was definitely on my flash drive

 

That was really an eye-opener, thank you. I replied in the thread you linked so to not veer this thread off topic.

 

It looks like Corsair may become another Laptop player soon...

CORSAIR Acquires ORIGIN PC
PRESS RELEASE by VSG Wednesday, 06:19 Discuss (13 Comments)
https://www.techpowerup.com/257657/corsair-acquires-origin-pc

" ...ORIGIN PC offers a wide range of high-performance configurable PCs, ranging from gaming PCs and powerful workstations to gaming laptops, building systems focused on customization, service, gaming, and technology to deliver a complete gaming experience. ORIGIN PC systems have won hundreds of media awards and industry accolades and are trusted by customers across North America to provide a truly personalized custom gaming PC experience..."

 

I saw that the other day. This could be a partnership that ends up making Clevo better as well. Laptop world is pretty messed up and needs all the help it can get now. I hope their influence does something positive to turn the tide on the plethora of crippled mobile rubbish littering the landscape.

 

I thought this was interesting as well when I saw this announcement.

Perhaps it'll force Corsair more towards doing things right and innovate in order to complete. It'd be really refreshing for them to come out strong and shame the current players in the field ... in turn that'll force the current companies to up their game in the gaming laptop sector. It'll be great to see a win-win come out of this.

 

Corsair has built up a huge network of support in their suppliers network, and leveraging that seems like a natural - that's where big win's can be had - for both end user prices and profits - and unique solutions may be sourced much easier. I hope a large dose of back to basics creativity hits them - affecting their build choices.

 

Indeed. With the introduction of the Area 51M, it put another system in the modular sector along side Clevo / Sager etc... so let's hope they focus where it counts for when it comes to enthusiasts who want the real deal.

It's interesting to see HP who has been overshadowed by AW/Dell with gaming laptops, going LM on their new system... all the while the Dell XPS is still in the same chassis, which reminds me of Intel with them milking the 14nm process many times over....

It's not necessarily a bad thing, because the products can still be good, however, it's a clear example of milking it due to there not being any direct competition....until now....

 

EVGA tried with their expensive Jokebooks. A huge fiasco and now Dead as the dinosaurs. If the main goal is spend resources on custom desktop builds but go for similar Evga Jokebooks this will do nothing for notebook enthusiasts. Status quo and maybe even worse. We will see how this pan out. But I don’t trust big companies regarding powerful laptops. For them is a Trashbook with expensive soldered hardware equal High performance. Just hear what Azor said about their new m15/m17 R2 line Gaming laptops. Amazing powerful products.

 

I agree. The possibility for something good to happen is there, but my skepticism is guarded. Will have to wait and see if anything good comes of it. If not, I will not have a surprised look on my face. However, I will have a surprised look on my face if it turns out great. Let's cross our fingers and hope they surprise us, but not be disappointed if they don't. It will be status quo with the mobile rubbish if nothing improves.

 

You might see Legion y740 like iCUE lights on clevos.

 

Origin's been around for a lot longer building PC's and laptops, successful to the point of survival at the least. Corsair has the $ and component experience and looking to expand into systems they did the right thing and bought / partnered with an experienced company with seasoned people in a successful team.

That's not the same as EVGA, and I hope they pull it together to try again some day too.

 

If it comes with Candy Crush and Bejeweled pre-installed, sign me up. not.

 

It sure will have them on stock OS.

 

Throw in " Barbie and her Sisters: Puppy Rescue" game and that will seal the deal, LOL.

 

My sister and cousin used to play until I uninstalled it and they still gets installed during upgrade process.

 

What? Have you eaten?

 

I can't look at her PC all the time, whenever I get time, I use my custom OS ISO to remove them and optimize the OS.

 

Yeah, Frank Azor left the sinking ship knowing what he did! His Legacy will stand in shame. Read my previous posts after the link below.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/xps-15-7590-owners-lounge.829412/page-14#post-10936933

 

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errrrrrrrrrrr made a new thread for that question? just saying. no bad intention here. just dont want to derail thread much. ^_^

 

I was reading the XPS thread.

 

ASUS Gaming Marketing Chief Vivian Lien To Replace Frank Azor As VP Of Dell And Alienware Gaming
Earlier this year, we reported that Frank Azor -- who was one of the original co-founders of Alienware and served as VP and GM for Dell's XPS, G Series and Alienware gaming brands -- was exiting the company to take position at AMD. Today, we have received confirmation from multiple reliable sources that Azor's... Read more...

 

and it's revealed...

 

R. I. P. Alienware.

 

R.I.P. AMD rather. Alienware now actually might stand a chance again *lol* in theory at least...

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If AW use good quality components w/ Prema Magic they might survive otherwise LGA on laptops w/ crappy FW is worse than ultra low end desktop builds.

 

Not sure I'm too impressed with Asus' gaming laptops.

 

I agree lol

 

ASUS, or Alienware? If ASUS, not sure of the relevance in this thread.

 

An ex-ASUS exec is coming in to replace Azor...