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    2013 Alienware Notebooks revealed

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Cloudfire, Jun 1, 2013.

  1. mikecacho

    mikecacho Notebook Evangelist

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    Well I hope, since the the M17 did not have a 3pipe sink for the last 2 models, maybe they will for this one... For the WirelessHD, I have never actually used once so I would not know the true difference. I am assuming it allows for a greater bandwidth and range?
     
  2. EviLCorsaiR

    EviLCorsaiR Asura

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    Only thing that appeals to me are the screens, which look great in the pictures. The shape of the keyboard keys makes it look like it'll be harder to type quickly on, the styling is seriously worse IMO, and the configuration options are terrible. Being forced into a more expensive 'starter configuration' to be able to add 780Ms seriously sucks.

    Hopefully 780Ms will work with the M18x R2, and hopefully they aren't outrageously pricey either. If I can get a pair of those in here, I'll be happy for years. That said, I'm already maxing everything out at 1080p...seems a bit pointless. I just want that screen, but I'm really not willing to go for something that looks like that for the better screen. To me...it just looks like an old business laptop with lights stuck to it from the opened front, and the lid is just too ostentatious for my tastes.

    Oh man, I'd be seriously happy if someone found a way to stick that screen into an R2.
     
  3. joecait

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    I can't seem to find where it talks about WirelessHD on the 18...?

    Also, with just HDMI and mini-display port, does that mean it won't be possible to have 3 external monitors connected? I know nVidia doesn't support it anyways, but I assume AMD options won't work neither now out of the box? (assuming it's an available option down the line?)
     
  4. ThatOldGuy

    ThatOldGuy Notebook Virtuoso

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    Has anyone seen the battery life mentioned on any of these machines??? or if the M14 and M17 have optimus?
     
  5. Idarzoid

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    This is amazing, lack of 1080p option on older M14x models was the reason why I never considered it at all.
     
  6. DumbDumb

    DumbDumb Alienware !Wish money wasn't the problem.

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    1TB SSD Quad Play RAID 0 (4x256GB SSD SATA 6Gb/s)

    what is this option? I only find it on the $5100 optioned one.. is this 4 drives?
     
  7. Anggrian

    Anggrian Notebook Evangelist

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    Looking at the new alienware displayed on engadget, they are still sticking with Windows 7 pre-installed. I wonder why aren't they getting into windows 8 game already.

    Sent from my PadFone 2 using Tapatalk 2
     
  8. dab89

    dab89 Notebook Consultant

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    does anyone know how long the old range is going to be available for purchase? till they run out of stock?
     
  9. eyung25

    eyung25 Notebook Consultant

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    They have windows 8 option for no extra charge.
     
  10. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    you would be heartbroken that its only 165lux, thats a VERY dim display, at least that was the saving grace here not anymore
     
  11. Anggrian

    Anggrian Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't doubt that, but the fact that they are showing new lineups with old OS means that they still prefer the old one.

    Sent from my PadFone 2 using Tapatalk 2
     
  12. Prolixious

    Prolixious Notebook Deity

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    Unless someone created a WLED IPS laptop screen when I wasn't looking or the website lies, the IPS screens aren't available yet (or will not be).

    The specifications and configuration pages do not even mention IPS.
     
  13. Saint Satan

    Saint Satan Notebook Evangelist

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    Just bought mine.

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  14. CSHawkeye81

    CSHawkeye81 Notebook Deity

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    so the website it would ship on or around the 2nd and now its showing the 17th??
     
  15. destinationsky

    destinationsky Notebook Evangelist

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    I just noticed that the 4 ssd in the 18 ant the 3 ssd in the 17 and 14 removes the optical drive :(
     
  16. tripleh3lix

    tripleh3lix Notebook Consultant

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    I just got my m17x last year.. But the new design on this looks killer. And the processor is probably a bit better than my 3610. I wish alienwares were cheaper than they are. Grr.. So sexy.
     
  17. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    No WirelessHD is for video. With WirelessHD I can stream a lossless 60Hz HDMI signal to my TV as long as there is a receiver.
    If you look down the table, it says that WirelessHD is available for all and isn't optional.
    Alienware Gaming Laptops
     
  18. Saint Satan

    Saint Satan Notebook Evangelist

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    I just ordered an mine said the 3rd.

    Almost made of mistake of ordering that one. I opted to go with a blue ray and msata 512 + 750gb.

    Btw what exactly is msata? It's no different than an SSD, correct?
     
  19. QuickJumper

    QuickJumper Newbie

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    I really hope they open up customization more. I don't want to have to upgrade the graphics card and hard drives just to get the i7-4900 processor.

    It depends. If they really are only offering IPS displays, than we'll need to know if they are 8 bit or 10 bit. Intel GPUs can only support up to 8 bit color, so if the IPS screens are 10 bit (which they most likely are), than you can't use Optimus or graphics switching.

    This is where the big battery life vs. screen quality debate comes in.

    That's three 256GB SSD's, one of which is placed in the optical drive caddy, plus one 256GB mSATA. Its hard to interpret Dell's pricing due to their bundling, but that would cost about $800-$1000 USD aftermarket.
     
  20. Serephucus

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    It's completely different. It's basically an SSD in the form of a WiFi card.
     
  21. ICNMatt

    ICNMatt Notebook Geek

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    So far I have 2 issues... The 780m score in the review - seems very very low! I have tweeted laptopmag to see if they can confirm the resolutions.

    Second is there are only 2 outputs :( Them 3 Alienware screens I ordered 6 months ago cant be used if I upgrade from 7970m SLI to the new 18 with 780m SLI :(

    I really want to though!

    tweet.jpg

    Just playing the waiting game now - I can cope with not using all three external screens as I rarely play games with all 3 screens. I cant cope with some sort of issue causing the 780m's not to perform properly!
     
  22. destinationsky

    destinationsky Notebook Evangelist

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    It looks like the 17 only has one 2.5" bay and one msata :mad:
     
  23. Saint Satan

    Saint Satan Notebook Evangelist

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    I meant in terms of performance. No difference between msata and ssd?
     
  24. destinationsky

    destinationsky Notebook Evangelist

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    if they updated the msata to Sata lll it should be very similiar
     
  25. Saint Satan

    Saint Satan Notebook Evangelist

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    Did you read the review? It's because the test versions of the MSI has SSD's and the Alienware does not. Just put an SSD in the Alienware and it will probably perform better.
     
  26. ICNMatt

    ICNMatt Notebook Geek

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    Yeah, read it. There is no way on earth an SSD will make that kind of difference for a graphics test! Overall, it might have a bearing (although not that much difference) but not a GPU test.

    My 7970 in the M17x R4 scores nearly 7000 stock.
     
  27. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    Not true, there are plenty of SATA 6Gb/s motherboards. The only reason that the M17x R4 had 3Gb/s on the mSATA was because Ivy Bridge only supports 2 6Gb/s ports all of which were used by the bays. Haswell supports up to six 6Gb/s ports so the mSATA is almost definitely be the top speed.
     
  28. Benmaui

    Benmaui Notebook Evangelist

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    Ahem, did you read the review sir? the reviewed 17 is equipped with a 256gb msata ssd... so something is definitely off with those scores...
     
  29. destinationsky

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    Do you'all think that the 8970m will come up later? Or will there be only nvidia cards?
     
  30. ICNMatt

    ICNMatt Notebook Geek

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    Exactly :)

    No way an SSD will make a 2000 difference in score on 3DMark11.
     
  31. Benmaui

    Benmaui Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes pretty sure they will ^^
     
  32. joecait

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    That's good. I never saw this page and it's no where mentioned on the configuration or build or tech specs page.
     
  33. Saint Satan

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    Only Nividia. They have some sort of deal with Haswell laptops and will be in something like 95% of all laptops.
     
  34. Benmaui

    Benmaui Notebook Evangelist

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    This .

    I am surprised this isn't being discussed more, you would think a gimped/crippled 780m would be a deal breaker for all of us .

    This is the first time I am hearing of this, I would really be surprised, can you back this up with a source?
     
  35. ICNMatt

    ICNMatt Notebook Geek

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    I'd be inclined to wait a little longer for some more benchmarks. I think some schoolboy error occurred. Maybe it was ran from the battery or on a higher resolution or something. I'd be more interested to see a benchmark for SLI.

    Maybe Saint Satan can keep us updated when his arrives and run a few benchmarks?
     
  36. Saint Satan

    Saint Satan Notebook Evangelist

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    I read it in quite a few different places. Try googling it. You will not be seeing AMD in any Haswell laptops.
     
  37. QuickJumper

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    Huh, I hadn't heard that about Haswell. That's a nice update.
     
  38. ThatOldGuy

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    Most likely an error or driver issue. In the actual game benchmarks it was close to on par with the gt70, outperformed it sometimes and sometimes it was outperformed, but not by much
     
  39. ICNMatt

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    tweet1.jpg

    Just had a tweet back from Laptop mag. They say it was the same resolution. I have tweeted them back asking if it was set to powersave mode or unplugged.

    Yeah I spotted that also. I think either a schoolboy error on some part or a driver issue - likely considering it will be on a test model.
     
  40. destinationsky

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    I googled it and didnt find anthing. It seams though that the 8970m isnt full on the market. Only a MSI with a AMD cpu seems to have it so far. Hopefully it shall be made available later, otherwise I wont be getting the new 17.

    Has anyone found out if the 14's gpu is mxm?
     
  41. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    According to the LaptopMag review, the 14's IPS is really disappointing. Brightness maxes at 161 and it has shallow viewing angles.

    What's the point in having the IPS bullet point if Dell used such a poor screen?
     
  42. Benmaui

    Benmaui Notebook Evangelist

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    I also googled it and came up with nothing...
     
  43. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    New laptops are now available for sale at Alienware.com. :thumbsup:
     
  44. Diaphanous

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    The reviewer complained about poor viewing angles, so I doubt that Laptopmag tested the IPS screen...
     
  45. Supermiguel

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    LaptopMag killed that laptop, now i dont know if i want to get the Razer, or the Alienware
     
  46. vsg28

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    What? The biggest selling point of IPS is viewing angle.
     
  47. Diaphanous

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    Of course. Have you ever seen an IPS display with shallow viewing angles?

    That's why I think Laptopmag tested a TN screen.
     
  48. vsg28

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    Also, I don't know if this has been mentioned yet but from that video I get the impression that the keyboard in the 17 and 18 is a LOT smaller. There is a ton of space all around and below it.
     
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    Sadly I have, one of my bad investments was a foreign IPS monitor which was so dim that it made viewing from sides almost impossible. The color rendition was still true at all viewing angles but what's the point if you could barely see anything? I have a feeling that this is the case with the alienware 14.
     
  50. DumbDumb

    DumbDumb Alienware !Wish money wasn't the problem.

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    what are you going to be sitting sideways from your screen? I dont see how viewing angle matters on a laptop and how that feature can be a focal point to buy some thing..
    I can think of 100 other things that should be pointed out..
     
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