4850's Finally out for the m17

really?

my Commanche came to £1925 inc delivery which is about £200 less then my m17 but about the same if i put 4850's in it

 

So they're pretty close ?

heres a list:

Crysis
Far cry 2
COD 4
UT3
Gta4
Mirrors edge
Dirt
Grid

 

8800 GTX?

I'd say @ stock the SLI 8800's but it's hard for me to remember off hand.

Notebookcheck has 3870x2 right above the 8800 SLI lol....

So it's pretty darn close!

 

the biggest one you will notice the difference on is Crysis as the 3870's dont like crysis at all.

I have played COD, Far cry, UT, and Dirt all on high settings, with variable AA settings as again the 38XX series didnt handle AA well

 

Hi,
I think that crysis in general performs better with nvidia gpu's. Look at the crysis benchmark on notebookcheck.

 

Aye, my M17 cost me £1600 with the 4850s, recovery discs and the 1920x1200 screen upgrade Even with the upgrades I've planned it's going to work out a little cheaper, barring you already have your processor
RAM is gonna cost me £50, the 2 HDDs are gonna cost me 100 and the X9100 will cost £200-250, putting me in the same place you are now; but you already have your CPU, so works out that little bit cheaper overall. Shame I can't sell the 2GB RAM, P8400 and 160GB HDD to make some cash back, but I need them in case of warranty necessity!

 

Thanks For opinions
Except Pmanuk nobody knows about M17/x sellers ?

 

with my whitebook
crysis 13fps on very high average
17fps on high. only one card works. no matter how much i crossfire it doesn't like it.

fc2 i got an average of 61fps but this is with a monster quad.

ut3 i believe i was capped at 62fps because of v-sync

mirriors egde i was 30fps average i'm not sure if crossfire was working.

grid i had to disable crossfire. afr would cause flickering. but i didn't try other types of crossfire

 

But most of these games support SLi ?
Are the nvidia cards identical, not master/slave like ati ?

 

yes but i played these games on my whitebook my specs were
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stocked 3870 crossfired
4gb of ddr3@1333mhz
etc

 

why would you change it on a desktop cpu-notebook?
so the nv cards are identical?

 

i'm confused on the question you asked. but the 9800m gtx is alot faster then the 3870.

 

what about the 4850

im asking if you can take the cards of the m17x, and put them into 2 different, single-gpu notebooks

 

The 4850 is faster than the 9800M GTX

 

yeah we are waiting for someone to test it out but my guess is that it will be alittle faster. the w90 with 4850 crossfire beat a 9800m gtx sli but it wasn't by much in vantage and i think less then 100 points. but the these ones int he alienware are suppose to be better. we would have to wait for alex to get his.

 

WHY would you take apart a M17x and put the cards in something else?

 

i don't know why either but the mxm slot for the m17x/np9850 are only out for each other right now. no other notebook can rock these.

 

Asus G51 thing the new one with the 260 has 3.0 i believe

 

i heard of that notebook is that suppose to sport sli?

 

no its a 15 inch ....with overheating lol

 

lol oh ok never mind. i just heard that they were coming out with a 260m sli 17 in to replace the w90. and i thought it was that.

 

No sir, the G51 is just a 2.1 slot.

 

Ahh is there a Asus with a MXM 3.0?

I remember you saying something about the memory speed must make it a 3.0...

 

I thought the Asus was underclocked, so how could we be sure? Asus generally uses a modded MXM slot anyway...

 

i unno i must of been high as a kite when i read it ....

So far only the Clevo M98nu and M17x are the only 3.0 laptops i know of then ....

 

Where do you all get your information for obtaining the mxm type? I have used mxm-upgrade.com but they seem to be contradicting what I am reading here, unless the card types are different from the slot types

 

i mostly read it on here ... how i learn most of everything

 

There are two types of the 260M and 280M; MXM 2.1 Type IV and MXM 3.0b. MXM 3.0b will be the format for future high end GPU's so, it's nice to have that slot... as Moo said, only the NP9850 (Sli M980), NP9280 (i7 D900), and M17x have it.

 

dang it i left out the 9280

 

I believe the physical connector for the clevo m980nu is NOT mxm standard....as lamented by Dondadah88 and shown below in both card and slot - way to NOT follow the standard Clevo.....guess they dont want their cards getting into AW owner's hands

 

M17x here







If Clevo did that they screwed them self over ... bad...

 

Oh, I assumed that 3.0 would look like 2.1 and just have different electrical spec

guess that is the difference, the slots haha

so type 1,2,3,4,HE are all part of the mxm 2.1 design and the new ones (3.0) have the notch in middle not off center like 2.1

learn something everyday, thanks Moo

 

yea thats why we say MXM 2.1 will not fit

 

Well ya, that makes sense to me now haha.

What had me confused is that MXM 2.1 has 5 types within it (I,II,III,IV,HE) and I thought you all were talking about them. Now i know what is up, thanks for the clarification.

well that brought my whole world down around me Now I know the true limits of my whitebook....4850 CF will be the best thing that my platform will ever handle, all newer cards will be mxm 3.0 (there is a single gtx280m on mxm 2.1 but it aint got the SLI cable - and is therefore beat by the 4850s)

 

Hey! Has anybody in the US talked to Alienware about what the situation is with the 4850's? I called them about 5 days ago and the guy in tech support didn't know anything but said that I wasn't able to order the 4850's as an upgrade. He said he wasn't sure if we would be able to or not. Is it just a supply issue? He just told me to call back in 3 weeks. I just got the M17 about a month ago. I wish I had known the cards were coming out and I would have waited. If anybody else knows what the US situation is and can let me know that would be awesome!

 

The situation is AW is giving the initial supply of the 4850's to the new owners only to ensure they have enough cards to give out to them. After a month if they have enough spare cards they'll probably release them to the previous M17 owners to upgrade. It's not confirmed but I mean, realistically that's whats going on from a supply/business standpoint.

 

IT most likely IS a supply issue. My hypothesis is that they want to make sure that new M17 orders with the 4850s will have stock of 4850s. Once they get more stock of 4850s I reckon that they will start selling them as an upgrade.

 

i spoke to a uk vendor of the m98 and it is a standard mxm 3.0 slot

 

The tech at AW said that he wasn't sure if the motherboard would need to be replaced due to heat/power issues from the 4850s. Does anyone know if the current MoBo's and power/cooling setup in the already shipped M17's is already able to handle the upgrade to the 4850's?

 

we already have someone who has them and is just having driver issues, the cards fit fine and are working

just driver problems

no reason the mobo should need to be replaced

 

Before they canceled my order the aw tech told me that no changes have to be made on my m17. But I had to send in (for free).

 

not my problem now!

but i am still interested in the progress

 

same haha, hopefully selling my whitebook monday, then its ordering of the m17x time

 

Pmanuk@ would I benefit from buying a quad-core processor? does it provide a higher benchmark than any of the other available processors? and what score does it get on the Windows 7 experience index?

Ive got £300 burning a whole in my pocket and dont have much faith in this 4850 upgrade....Ive seen a QX9300 from that Shirley guy for just over £300.

I was interested in the X9100 but I always wanted a quad from the start.

After this GPU upgrade(4850s) what is the next best thing to improve my M17
both in Windows and stock benchmark scores?

ps....dont say a SSD...please! I still dont think they are worth their money yet and want to wait a little longer for this.

cheers.

 

well i have noticed a very nice upgrade when i moved to the quad core

i too brought mine from shirely and wholey reccomend him.

tbh i dont rate the windows experiance index, although i score an extra 3000 3dmarks just by having the quad

doest that answer your question

aside from the gpu it would be the cpu, esp in games and apps that utilise the 4 cores

 

the quad wuill only make your Epeen longer by the sounds of what you will be using it for...

Games won't run much better @ all (like very very little) unless your playing a game optimized for a quad which is rare and even then you CPU need to be the bottleneck and @ high resolutions it isn't

 

i like my epeen the way it is

 

The quad is nice, but a headache in the long run due to the stuttering that has yet to be fixed. I would just get the x9100. It will give you same in game performance and NO stuttering. And it's cheaper and taxes battery less and runs cooler.

 

Yeah I get what your both saying but my plan was always to kit the M17 out to the max regardless of its age and whether its really worth it and Im angry with all this waiting for the GPU upgrade....only some retail tech therapy can sort it out I think!

Knowing my luck I will order the quad then Alienware will let us at these GPUs..I will have spent my cash by then.

BTW: whats a Epeen?

 

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