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    4850's Finally out for the m17

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by The_Moo?, Jul 15, 2009.

  1. resu

    resu Notebook Enthusiast

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    nm answer was posted in a previous reply whilst I was typing this.


    hrm get the M17 with 4850s or the new, sexy looking M17x and settle for 260s...?

    Well if 4850 = 260s I gotta go with the M17x
     
  2. anothergeek

    anothergeek Equivocally Nerdy

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    You save big money upgrading the CPU, RAM, HDD on your own.

    As I said before, 4850 = 260M.
     
  3. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    well that's not even it. if the older m17 onwers can upgrade for the same price or maybe a 100 dollar increase then it's well worth it.

    but it now confuses people because of the fact there are two notebooks from alienware plus the ocz bios for the m17 :)
     
  4. Larven

    Larven Notebook Guru

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    OMG! I'm so exited right now. Do I have to send in the computer to get the graphic cards changed?
     
  5. sgogeta4

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    It's well worth it for older m17 owners but not for those looking for a new notebook.
     
  6. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Call and find out :).
     
  7. DHC

    DHC Notebook Evangelist

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  8. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    think about it

    you are on a a tight budget.
    you may prefer ati because you may of had a nvidia card before(me)

    you see the 4850 and you see that ati says it uses the desktop cards for your getting almost the same performance.

    what would you do???????

    (remember right now the 4870 isn't released for the m17x)
     
  9. Quadzilla

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  10. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Lol. i was waiting for someone to ask this as well.
     
  11. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    If you are on a tight budget and getting a new notebook, you wouldn't consider an Alienware. The name alone is costing you a pretty penny. While I like the competitiveness and powerful GPUs from ATI, nVidia still has better driver support. You can just go to the main website and get the latest driver without hassle. Once AMD/ATI fixes that, then I won't have any reservations about choosing them. Of course, I agree for those who want to upgrade, this is a good choice, but otherwise, there are plenty of other (and better) options IMO.

    edit: the Euro is 1.4 ish USD, so $560 USD roughly.
     
  12. marius

    marius Notebook Consultant

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    550$

    1.35 is the ratio where i am now
     
  13. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    just because they release more drivers doesn't mean its better ......
     
  14. Clauss

    Clauss Notebook Unboxer

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    So who shall be the first chap to call and get theirs replaced so we can see benchmarks of these. Any guesses on the vantage scores? or 3dmark06
     
  15. zfactor

    zfactor Mastershake

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    i told everyone lol...
     
  16. DHC

    DHC Notebook Evangelist

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    Well you can't compare US and EU prices...everything is very overpriced here in Europe.

    Alienware.com shows 400 dollars fo the upgrade.
     
  17. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    ugh the same as the W90p ?

    Duh ?l

    only difference is the Vram
     
  18. marius

    marius Notebook Consultant

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    Sager, MSI ASUS
    no thanks

    i think m17 has much better built quality (even though i never touched one :eek: )
     
  19. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    tht is upgrade price not stand alone
     
  20. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    that's alot but the you can sell the 3870's and you'll be good.

    also if you are on a budget you search you just don't factor out aleinware/sager or what notebook because of it's price. you factor out components that you don't need or that you can upgrade.
     
  21. The_Moo™

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    LMAO

    Flextronics makes this not AW
     
  22. Clauss

    Clauss Notebook Unboxer

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    Sorry moo! was just curious...damn cows.
    Hows the wait for the m17x going? few more hours?
     
  23. marius

    marius Notebook Consultant

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    what about the design of m9750
    is this a coincidence
     
  24. Quadzilla

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    Theres gonna be alot of 3870s for sale :) These could actually work in the M9750 as well so not sure how many of those owners are going to want to upgrade to the 3870s if the 4850s work.

    If i owned a set of 3870s they would be in the For sale section already :).
     
  25. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    me to. Lol. i wonder about whitebook owners????
     
  26. The_Moo™

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    LMAO Alienware doesn't make it either Flextronics does ...AW just paints it
     
  27. zfactor

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    problem is you HAVE to be a alienware customer. they will not sell these out to anyone who wants them from what they are telling me, you have to provide your account and system info to order them
     
  28. HaloGod2007

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    do they need your m17 to do the upgrade or do they send the cards to you
     
  29. Quadzilla

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    Yes but there could always be a back door in through Dell .
     
  30. DHC

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    Correct, had to provide all this over the phone.
     
  31. The_Moo™

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    yay :D

    And its standard AW ... they have these exclusive they want it that way
     
  32. Quadzilla

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    You can just order them from what someone else said and they ship them out.
     
  33. sgogeta4

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    I disagree, nVidia has better support on average in games (check out any GPU review) than ATI and their driver updates are one of their strengths. Older GPUs can still be very powerful thanks to good drivers.
     
  34. Quadzilla

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    If its infact the only way to get them then there will be alot of unhappy whitebook owners that is for certain :(.
     
  35. The_Moo™

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    you think i don't know that more games are built on Nvidia ?

    I am just saying just because they release more drivers doesn't mean they are better
     
  36. PanzerVIZeke

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    Something's telling me this all we are going to get.Think about it:

    M17 GPU Options:
    1 3870
    2 3870s
    2 4850s

    M17x GPU Options:
    1 GTX 260
    2 GTX 260s
    2 GTX 280s

    see the similarities?

    M17 might still just be the ATi flagship and all we get are 4850s.Notice how the GPU options are setup exactly like the M17x. You can get 1 lower end GPU, 2 lower end GPUs, or 2 Higher End GPUs.4850s may be all we get!
     
  37. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    why are you still taking garbage about this. you just said that the 4850's are crap and the 4870 is where it's at and now your saying the ati sucks and it's all about nvidia?????? make up your mind.
     
  38. marius

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    sorry for offtopic
    what was that coupon for freeshipping
     
  39. dwend

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    I wonder if I could put one in my m15x.
     
  40. Quadzilla

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    Nah there will be more upgrade options for the M17x without a doubt, that much you can bank on. The machine just came out lol :D.
     
  41. Quadzilla

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    It should fit , not sure about the heatsink layout though.
     
  42. PanzerVIZeke

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    I think he is saying that ATi sucks in general unless its a GDDR5 4870.Thats what it sounds like to me. :p
     
  43. dondadah88

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    the chances is yes but the heat maybe the problem


    yup. this is it for the m17 and those mxm sockets. but it's the best out for that socket. (i wonder if the sager can fit these. lol. JK.)
    it seems so to me aswell. but i don't think he owned a recent ati or have been up to date on what's going on.
     
  44. The_Moo™

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    yea should fit
     
  45. Quadzilla

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    I dont think the 9262 chipset supports Crossfire but its worth looking into :D.
     
  46. sgogeta4

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    Don't put words in my mouth. I never said the 4850 are crap, I just said their release to me isn't significant (since I don't own a M17 and if I were to get a new notebook I wouldn't consider the M17 as I have other choices that are equally as good or better from nVidia). Only when the 4870 w/ GDDR5 comes out will I be excited to see how they fare against the GTX 280. So go stuff a sock in it.
     
  47. dondadah88

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    the pcx is a nvidia one so i don't think so as well. when i sold my whitebook i wanted to try the 3870's but i was a day to late. :(
     
  48. The_Moo™

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    IMO no need to post then you haven't been in limbo for a year

    @ Don .... i can get the cards....
     
  49. Quadzilla

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    Come on fellas no need to get hostile were just trying to have a nice discussion here.
     
  50. The_Moo™

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    9750 Nvidia chipset worked ...
     
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